Stuhoo Posted September 27, 2017 Author Posted September 27, 2017 Pitino would be a fool to fight the dismissal, and his attorney, Steve Pence, will advise him accordingly. If he fought the dismissal, he would be subject to sworn testimony/sworn depositions, which could put him in extreme risk of enhancing his criminal exposure. Foreshadowing the release from Pitino's attorney in a few days: To support the shared goal of allowing UL and Coach Pitino to move forward, Coach Pitino has agreed to end his extraordinarily successful relationship with the University. Or some crap like that. Hoosier82, reconmkd, IUsafety and 2 others 5 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said: HoopDirt implying U of Miami's nose is about to get dirtier. On Twitter? reconmkd 1 Quote
Stromboli Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 Just because we're on the subject... Part of why the FBI is so incredibly thorough, and unwilling to even pursue less-than-airtight information is that they have an extremely high standard of proof to achieve in order for a prosecution to succeed. This is the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard that you so often hear. This literally means that you can't conceive of anything being the truth other than the crime as described and proven by the prosecution. (Again, Stuhoo, jump in if I'm off base.) To get there, they have to navigate through the evidentiary rules that are set up to ensure that the information is extremely reliable. Criminal cases have a very high standard of proof. Often in civil matters, the standard is going to be "a preponderance of the evidence," meaning it is just more likely than not that something happened. Literally, if you're 51% convinced something happened, even if there are other plausible explanations, then you've got enough to meet the standard. This lower standard of proof is why OJ was found not guilty in criminal court, but the civil case brought against him for the same actions was successful. The NCAA is not in a court of law. They do not have to worry about evidence rules, and their standard of proof isn't very clear. They can rely on hearsay, etc. Further, they are operating under a standard of proof which is much lower than that which a prosecutor must prove. From the NCAA: "[the] standard of proof is whether the information is credible, persuasive and of a nature that reasonable people would rely upon in the conduct of serious affairs." That kind of language is so wide-open to interpretation that an attorney wouldn't know where to begin. In this case, information gained by the FBI in their investigation would certainly seem to meet that standard, even where it is not useful in the prosecution of the criminal case. Perhaps, some of these other interviews Brass Cannon is discussing would meet that standard, enough to cause a finding of infractions which would lead to sanctions. Here's a helpful PDF I'm sourcing this information from: http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/BBD_Comm.Infractions.pdf reconmkd 1 Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: On Twitter? Yes. Quote
Trish Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 https://twitter.com/DarrenHeitner/status/913095940134903815 YES VO5 and reconmkd 1 1 Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 Osterman and Dana O'Neil have both retweeted the following from Darren Heitner: Sources: Employees of Nike's EYBL grassroots division, along with documents, have been subpoenaed by FBI in furtherance of investigation. reconmkd, IUsafety, thebigweave and 2 others 5 Quote
VO5 Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Treesh said: https://twitter.com/DarrenHeitner/status/913095940134903815 YES Yup. Here comes schools like Duke, UK, etc's involvement reconmkd, incrediboy, ALASKA HOOSIER and 2 others 5 Quote
azguybob Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 Just now, VO5 said: Yup. Here comes schools like Duke, UK, etc's involvement can only hope those two r involved...especially....UK !! Naturalhoosier and incrediboy 2 Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 Sent from my SM-G930V using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
pumpfake Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said: Osterman and Dana O'Neil have both retweeted the following from Darren Heitner: Sources: Employees of Nike's EYBL grassroots division, along with documents, have been subpoenaed by FBI in furtherance of investigation. Hmmmmm. Now this could grow legs. Quote
azguybob Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Joe DeLow said: Possible that the AAU circuit gets blown up? would hope so !! Quote
sirhoosierlot Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 1 minute ago, nixie said: Go ahead and cancel that visit Romeo .. https://twitter.com/chris_sourk/status/913087887691931648 looks like a fake account Quote
Popular Post Trish Posted September 27, 2017 Popular Post Posted September 27, 2017 YES Class of '66 Old Fart, Stromboli, Happydaze and 6 others 9 Quote
SlamaJamaSisley Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 Just now, sirhoosierlot said: looks like a fake account Yep, saw that. I feel like a news reporter now. Quote
Trish Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Joe DeLow said: Possible that the AAU circuit gets blown up? Only the big time programs. Quote
sirhoosierlot Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 Just now, nixie said: Yep, saw that. I feel like a news reporter now. We've all done it lol Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 Just now, Joe DeLow said: Possible that the AAU circuit gets blown up? OMG. Bite your tongue. What'll I do next spring/summer if I don't have AAU stats to compile? thebigweave, IUsafety, WayneFleekHoosier and 2 others 5 Quote
incrediboy Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 42 minutes ago, MoyeNeeded said: A few names being thrown out ss interim head coaches: Scotty Davenport, Tom Crean, Thad Matta and J. Thompsom III Sent from my SM-G930P using BtownBanners mobile app Last I heard Matta was planning to take at least a year off to get it back together physically. Quote
Brass Cannon Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 Just now, Me So Hornsby said: *grabs popcorn* Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Fake but probably are cheaters Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, incrediboy said: Last I heard Matta was planning to take at least a year off to get it back together physically. With his health issues, I can't foresee him jumping into this cesspool and the amount of energy and effort that it will take. Quote
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