Welcome Coach Miller

[Buck Naked 451]

41 minutes ago, Tom White said:

What the heck is that supposed to mean?

Hopefully it means "Goodbye IU, hello D League!"

[Trish 11,623]

Can we assume Tony turned down the job? Shouldn't that be a little alarming?.. 

 

[Bowhunter 2,694]

I just Glass would have made him an offer Billy and his wife couldn't resist. I'm still bumbed.

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[MisterBigRig 66]

This is definitely worth a listen:

It's Archie Miller

[Trish 11,623]

2 minutes ago, Bowhunter said:

I just Glass would have made him an offer Billy and his wife couldn't resist. I'm still bumbed.

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We'll never know the offers made sadly.

[HoosierX 1,589]

Just now, jmsgws said:

My search showed that he made about 690,000 in 2016.  http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach/

Fair enough.  That isn't accurate though.

http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/news/miller-highest-paid-coach-atlantic/2f8Jru3hw6UF6JAZzehtgP/

Looks like he was making around $1.8 based on that article.

Edited March 25, 2017 by HoosierX

[Aaron 4,294]

People are nuts. This is a great hire assuming Donovan said no. Having attended the Dayton Wichita St game I can tell you Dayton played better D in that game than any game I have watched Crean coach in 9 yrs. Both teams were so under-seeded and it was unfair they played in 1st rd and both teams looked amazingly disciplined.

I am so happy to shove it in the stupid Dayton fans face next to me who loved Archie and was so arrogant and said we would never get him. Well we've got him now.

Dayton fans on their message boards are in mourning over losing him which is a very good sign Marquette considering message boards were kind of happy to see Crean go when he left them for IU 9 yrs ago.

[cljones1979 740]

archie was suppose to be interviewed by someone at 440 today. does anyone have a link i can listen to it

[recker222000 1,010]

This is probably the biggest fail for him, but he's also just known for being a complete hack when it comes to reporting things


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He has lost all credabilty in my book. I think he said something about alford earlier that was flat out false also. I will no longer follow him personally.

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[Hardwood83 4,774]

35 minutes ago, Woodson1980 said:

What I like in this hire the most is the youth.Give him some time and he will get us where we need to be.I really think he's a better coach then his brother.Let him prove themself and not go crazy with extensions until your sure Fred.Welcome aboard Archie!

Ugh.....I know that is only reasonable, but sheesh. I'm a Cubs fan too, so there is always "next year" and it finally paid off.Now we start to wait for the Youngster to figure it out on the fly and in 5-6yrs we'll be somewhere! 

And if Glass paid him $3mil? He shouldn't be fired he should be executed. Paying a guy with Miller's resume that much is criminal.

[tablegrapes 108]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

But you want the brother who hasn't proven he can win or recruit at this level?

Sean is in the mix. Coach K losses all the time to less talented teams in NCAAs. He is THE LEGEND. If Sean keeps putting up 30-5 seasons he'll get one at some point.


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Sean was NEVER going to seriously sniff around a high profile job is brother was in the mix for. People have to think this through. Sean already has a great job where he has a high level of success and is very well paid. Sniping the IU job, or attempting to, would have made the holidays at the folks' place very uncomfortable. 

[recker222000 1,010]

Can we assume Tony turned down the job? Shouldn't that be a little alarming?.. 
 

This is probably the biggest fail for him, but he's also just known for being a complete hack when it comes to reporting things


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Maybe he was never offered. I thought people hated his offense and he cant get it done in the tourmey.

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[Aaron 4,294]

Also I have not seen anyone bring this up and I feel this is most important is so far he has followed his Brother Sean in every way. Both had jobs at mid majors in Ohio (yes I know Xavier is now a power 6 but they were not when Sean was there) where they took teams to elite 8's and dominated their league once they got it going. Both stayed several years and held out for elite jobs.

Since Sean took his spot at Zona he has stepped it up to elite results in Pac 12 (some will argue since he has not been to a Final 4 its been underachieving but I disagree) and if Archie can step it up like Sean has when he took the elite job we are in for a fun next 10 years. I will gladly take similar results to what Sean has had for Archie.

All we need is for Archie to continue to follow Sean as he has had so far and I think there is a good chance of that.

[Aaron 4,294]

Assuming Donovan turned us down I love this hire for three reasons:

1. Having attended the Dayton Wichita St game I can tell you Dayton played better D in that game than any game I have watched Crean coach in 9 yrs. Both teams were so under-seeded and it was unfair they played in 1st rd and both teams looked amazingly disciplined. I am so happy to shove it in the stupid Dayton fans face next to me who loved Archie and was so arrogant and said we would never get him. Well we've got him now.

2. Dayton fans on their message boards are in mourning over losing him which is a very good sign Marquette considering message boards were kind of happy to see Crean go when he left them for IU 9 yrs ago.

3. So far he has followed his brother Sean in every way. Both had jobs at mid majors in Ohio (yes I know Xavier is now a power 6 but they were not when Sean was there) where they took teams to elite 8's and dominated their league once they got it going. Both stayed several years and held out for elite jobs. Since Sean took his spot at Zona he has stepped it up to elite results in Pac 12 (some will argue since he has not been to a Final 4 its been underachieving but I disagree) and if Archie can step it up like Sean has when he took the elite job we are in for a fun next 10 years. I will gladly take similar results to what Sean has had for Archie. All we need is for Archie to continue to follow Sean as he has had so far and I think there is a good chance of that.

[HoosierX 1,589]

Just now, Hardwood83 said:

Ugh.....I know that is only reasonable, but sheesh. I'm a Cubs fan too, so there is always "next year" and it finally paid off.Now we start to wait for the Youngster to figure it out on the fly and in 5-6yrs we'll be somewhere! 

And if Glass paid him $3mil? He shouldn't be fired he should be executed. Paying a guy with Miller's resume that much is criminal.

Uhhh hyperbole much?  If we really got him for 3 MM, in my mind that is a major bargain.  He very likely could have made 3 MM or more going somewhere else.  Illinois is paying Brad Underwood over 3 MM.

Are we supposed to pay him less than what he made at Datyon?

[Stuhoo 81,438]

My Dayton friend says that everything about Dayton is the only thing that held back Archie's recruiting, and that he will kill it at IU.
Hope he's right; makes sense to me.

[Miller'sTheMan 1,652]

Neither Dayton nor Wichita State deserved to go home on the first weekend. Dayton got pretty screwed with their draw.

Also, while we can talk about Archie's last of consistent impressive tourney success, the fact is he's taken a program that was used to going to the tournament every once in a while and taken them to 4 straight NCAA tournaments including an elite 8. (4 tournament appearances over 4 years, Dayton had been rewarded with 4 total appearances over the last 8 years before he got there). That's a solid body of work anyway you slice it. 

I know some people have concerns about his recruiting, but it's a lot easier to attract talented players to IU than it is to Dayton. 

[SteelerHoosier 2,586]

1 hour ago, jmsgws said:

Then if he wants to gain any credibility back, he needs to name his source, and make an apology.  In IU circles, he stepped all over himself in a big way.  He probably should have double and triple checked the source, before making the type of claim he made, and then when the info started coming out about Donovan being at practice, should have either gone silent, or given up some kind of proof.  

I've never met Justin, and he could be a really good guy, but as a reporter........ 

You don't name your source. Especially when the source is this individual. Sure fire way to alienate yourself from them. 

[Scooter D 928]

So...from what i have read so far on here is that most are ok with his defense, but no so impressed with his offense and recruiting.  This means that we will from losing games in the 70s-80s to losing games in the 50s-60s with the same recruits that Crean could pull.  Great...can't wait for that.

[jmsgws 2,181]

1 minute ago, SteelerHoosier said:

You don't name your source. Especially when the source is this individual. Sure fire way to alienate yourself from them. 

In this case, your source made you jump the shark.   It is a tough decision, but one source, or my living?  I guess I would burn the source, or find a new way to make a buck.  

It isn't so much the getting the info wrong, it was steadfast way he kept going, even when it was shown the source was wrong.