Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[HoosierAloha]

None of that matters/helps with the scholarship situation. A RS takes up a scholarship... so putting a kid "on hold" for a year doesn't solve the 13 scholarship limit issue... 13 schollies and 15 kids... I'm sure Arch has an idea how this will work out, but I fear we lose a cog in the machine (TB, JBJ) rather than Gelon or MSB...

I wasn't talking about scholarship numbers. I was talking about Moore red shirting. I believe he said in an interview that CAM wanted him to redshirt and he wasn't fond of it. Does him recommitting mean he's willing to redshirt?

[goonaha]

1 minute ago, HoosierAloha said:

I wasn't talking about scholarship numbers. I was talking about Moore red shirting. I believe he said in an interview that CAM wanted him to redshirt and he wasn't fond of it. Does him recommitting mean he's willing to redshirt?

Maybe, or it could mean that Archie relented on that issue. Of the three recruits, I think Moore could benefit the most physically from a redshirt year. However, I think that decision is dependent on whether or not TB comes back. If TB is gone I think Moore will get minutes. If he doesn't, I think TB, DD, CH, JM, JS and FM are sufficient front court depth.

[MikeRoberts]

No, CAM had to convince him he wouldn't redshirt


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[bigrod]

1 hour ago, LamarCheeks said:

I've said this before and I'll say it again: Archie knows. ... He has to know who's staying and who's going or have a very, very good indication of such. Otherwise, he would've just let Moore or Durham go. They wanted out of their LOIs and if we were to remain oversigned, the easy thing would be to just release them. But he worked hard to keep them. That tells me he's pretty hip to the scholly situation and knows how it will play out. 

I agree with you. It seems pretty unlikely that a guy who didn't mind holding a scholly or two all the sudden wants to start over-signing.

[Walking Boot of Doom]

Why do people keep saying the Priller and Gelon need to go? Under good leadership he can develop and the kind of role that Priller fills is invaluable to a team, but not many of you would know anything about that. When Crean finally let the thriller on the floor he was the most aggressive player we had all night. I would say that Bryant and Johnson need to go and develop the correct attitude and then return.   

Lemme see if I understand your points from your last couple posts:

 

1) You don't want Crean's players on the floor, but;

2) Gelon and Priller should play more (let's ignore they were Crean's players), in place of;

3) Two players with the potential to be All B1G next year, Thomas Bryant and Rob Johnson, who you think should;

4) Leave the team for a year to readjust their attitudes while sitting on the bench somewhere fulfilling their transfer obligation, and then;

5) Return to Indiana to sit on the bench for another year to fulfill their transfer obligation, at which point Bryant and Johnson will have surpassed their alotted 5 years to play 4 seasons, meaning both will be ineligible to continue playing college basketball.

 

Let me know if I missed anything.

 

 

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[Stuhoo]

9 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

Lemme see if I understand your points from your last couple posts:

 

1) You don't want Crean's players on the floor, but;

2) Gelon and Priller should play more (let's ignore they were Crean's players), in place of;

3) Two players with the potential to be All B1G next year, Thomas Bryant and Rob Johnson, who you think should;

4) Leave the team for a year to readjust their attitudes while sitting on the bench somewhere fulfilling their transfer obligation, and then;

5) Return to Indiana to sit on the bench for another year to fulfill their transfer obligation, at which point Bryant and Johnson will have surpassed their alotted 5 years to play 4 seasons, meaning both will be ineligible to continue playing college basketball.

 

Let me know if I missed anything.

 

 

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[bigrod]

Lemme see if I understand your points from your last couple posts:
 
1) You don't want Crean's players on the floor, but;
2) Gelon and Priller should play more (let's ignore they were Crean's players), in place of;
3) Two players with the potential to be All B1G next year, Thomas Bryant and Rob Johnson, who you think should;
4) Leave the team for a year to readjust their attitudes while sitting on the bench somewhere fulfilling their transfer obligation, and then;
5) Return to Indiana to sit on the bench for another year to fulfill their transfer obligation, at which point Bryant and Johnson will have surpassed their alotted 5 years to play 4 seasons, meaning both will be ineligible to continue playing college basketball.
 
Let me know if I missed anything.
 
 
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You missed the insane evil laugh at the end.


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[Stuhoo]

14 minutes ago, bigrod said:

You missed the insane evil laugh at the end.


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[Stuhoo]

http://www.crimsonquarry.com/2017/4/17/15320790/recruiting-the-class-of-2018-just-the-beginning-for-archie-miller

A good overview article from the Crimson Quarry.

Very hot take on Keion Brooks, which will be added to the Keion Brooks thread.

 

[Dalton26]

36 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

Lemme see if I understand your points from your last couple posts:

 

1) You don't want Crean's players on the floor, but;

2) Gelon and Priller should play more (let's ignore they were Crean's players), in place of;

3) Two players with the potential to be All B1G next year, Thomas Bryant and Rob Johnson, who you think should;

4) Leave the team for a year to readjust their attitudes while sitting on the bench somewhere fulfilling their transfer obligation, and then;

5) Return to Indiana to sit on the bench for another year to fulfill their transfer obligation, at which point Bryant and Johnson will have surpassed their alotted 5 years to play 4 seasons, meaning both will be ineligible to continue playing college basketball.

 

Let me know if I missed anything.

 

 

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Come on WBOD, youre making too much sense again.

[Dalton26]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

http://www.crimsonquarry.com/2017/4/17/15320790/recruiting-the-class-of-2018-just-the-beginning-for-archie-miller

A good overview article from the Crimson Quarry.

Very hot take on Keion Brooks, which will be added to his thread.

 

WOW, I didnt realize Schilling and the Brooks family were close. I'm loving that hire more and more.

[Dalton26]

Just taking a look at the top ranked players of next years class and just imagine if Archie could get both Garland and Romeo, or Phinisee and Romeo. I think this place would be down for a week. lol

[ramadden13]

http://www.insidethehall.com/2017/04/17/clifton-moore-talks-decision-to-stick-with-indiana/

Inside the Hall got some quotes from Moore this morning. I've seen the "Archie's system is like my AAU team" a couple times now. I think Justin Smith said it too.

[Dalton26]

3 minutes ago, ramadden13 said:

http://www.insidethehall.com/2017/04/17/clifton-moore-talks-decision-to-stick-with-indiana/

Inside the Hall got some quotes from Moore this morning. I've seen the "Archie's system is like my AAU team" a couple times now. I think Justin Smith said it too.

"Moore said that one of his biggest takeaways from the meeting with Miller and Flint was how straightforward they were with their plan for him.

“They didn’t put any fluff on it,” he said. “They didn’t try to butter anything up. They just told me the plan that they saw and the goals that they’re trying to reach, the success they’re looking for. It was all truth.”

 

That was my biggest takeaway from that article. I love that, no bs no used car salesman lines, just straight forward. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

All 3 recruits seem to be saying the same thing about their meetings with Archie. He doesn't care if what he says isn't what you want to hear, he's gonna keep it real. I think the guys all like that. 

[Baltimore Hoosier]

There isn't much video on Moore but from what I watched it looks like he needs to add weight and strength and get more physical. Alot of jump hooks and turn around fade aways. I'll be interested to see what kind of PT he gets next season. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

21 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

There isn't much video on Moore but from what I watched it looks like he needs to add weight and strength and get more physical. Alot of jump hooks and turn around fade aways. I'll be interested to see what kind of PT he gets next season. 

Strength probably won't ever be a big part of his game but in one of the more recent pictures of him it looks like he's put on a little bit of mass. With a summer or two in Bloomington he should be fine from a physical standpoint. 

[Hoosier Guy]

1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

All 3 recruits seem to be saying the same thing about their meetings with Archie. He doesn't care if what he says isn't what you want to hear, he's gonna keep it real. I think the guys all like that. 

It's definitely a breath of fresh air. Players, and recruits in particular, like honesty. They want to know the plan from day one. Recruits don't want it to change up when they get on campus. And that is something that demands a great deal of respect

[recker222000]

I've said this before and I'll say it again: Archie knows. ... He has to know who's staying and who's going or have a very, very good indication of such. Otherwise, he would've just let Moore or Durham go. They wanted out of their LOIs and if we were to remain oversigned, the easy thing would be to just release them. But he worked hard to keep them. That tells me he's pretty hip to the scholly situation and knows how it will play out. 

Bryant and jbj are gone imo.

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[Sota Hoosier]

1 hour ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

There isn't much video on Moore but from what I watched it looks like he needs to add weight and strength and get more physical. Alot of jump hooks and turn around fade aways. I'll be interested to see what kind of PT he gets next season. 

He reminds me of a lot of Jon Leuer. Leuer rose the ranks immensely (literally from projected decent DIII ball player to high D-I) between his Sophomore and Senior years in HS but was less than 200 lbs. at 6'10". He tacked around 40 lbs. of muscle in college at UW and was a power in the B1G by his senior year. He is now the sixth man for Pistons and makes nearly $11M per year.

Not saying Clifton will live up to that comparison but his rise from relative unknown to the target of many high-major programs is similar to Leuer's and body types are almost identical. Clifton seems to have a lot of untapped potential as Leuer did so let's hope he has a similar path!