WayneFleekHoosier Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Donovan is a bigger pipedream than Stevens. Donovan has always wanted to be NBA. That whole Orlando ordeal. I don't think he'll be in NCAA anytime soon.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mdn82, Ryno6284, Stuhoo and 2 others 5 Quote
reconmkd Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 25 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Donovan is a bigger pipedream than Stevens. Donovan has always wanted to be NBA. That whole Orlando ordeal. I don't think he'll be in NCAA anytime soon. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Have to agree with you, plus who would leave an NBA head coaching job that has Westbrook and Oladipo! ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
Scooter D Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 2 hours ago, reconmkd said: Have to agree with you, plus who would leave an NBA head coaching job that has Westbrook and Oladipo! For the right opportunity, he might be persuaded to leave. To me, he seemed to love the teaching aspect of the game...not sure how much of that he can really do in the NBA. ALASKA HOOSIER and southsidehoosier 2 Quote
southernindianahoosier Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Donovan is a bigger pipedream than Stevens. Donovan has always wanted to be NBA. That whole Orlando ordeal. I don't think he'll be in NCAA anytime soon.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersI think if Billy does leave the NBA, it will be to replace Rick Pitino at Louisville. For that reason I think he stays in the NBA until Pitino retires. ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Hell there are some Indiana High School coaches better suuted than CTC.Meeehhhh... they're coaching high school ball for a reasonSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Dalton26 1 Quote
brandct Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 37 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said: Meeehhhh... they're coaching high school ball for a reason Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app I bet we could find a high school coach that would give similar results for far lass than 3 million a year though. recker222000 and southernindianahoosier 2 Quote
recker222000 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 I bet we could find a high school coach that would give similar results for far lass than 3 million a year though. Yeah but could he say its indiana its indiana! That alone is worth a few million.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk southernindianahoosier 1 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Meeehhhh... they're coaching high school ball for a reasonSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appLike lack of connections and chances to succeed? Coaching fraternity is tight and exclusive. Hard to get an IN unless you know the right people. Plus, very few people sell themselves as well as Tom Crean sells himself. He would be a very good politician. Or salesman. He's also a better than average coach. He's a talented guy but he's not even close to being an Elite coach. X's and O's and how they apply to a game as it is being played---Not Crean's strong suit. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners reconmkd and HoosierAloha 2 Quote
southernindianahoosier Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Yeah but could he say its indiana its indiana! That alone is worth a few million.Sent from my SM-J700T using TapatalkLolling right now. Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Like lack of connections and chances to succeed? Coaching fraternity is tight and exclusive. Hard to get an IN unless you know the right people. Plus, very few people sell themselves as well as Tom Crean sells himself. He would be a very good politician. Or salesman. He's also a better than average coach. He's a talented guy but he's not even close to being an Elite coach. X's and O's and how they apply to a game as it is being played---Not Crean's strong suit. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersThere are plenty of ways in to college basketball, especially in the state that supposedly values the high school game so much.Plus, saying a good high school coach would do well as a college coach is like saying a good college coach would succeed in the NBA. All completely different challenges and styles.Not calling Crean great, just trying to argue against some of the more hyperbolic "anything is better than Crean" sentiment.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
HoosierAloha Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 There are plenty of ways in to college basketball, especially in the state that supposedly values the high school game so much.Plus, saying a good high school coach would do well as a college coach is like saying a good college coach would succeed in the NBA. All completely different challenges and styles.Not calling Crean great, just trying to argue against some of the more hyperbolic "anything is better than Crean" sentiment.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appI could easily find 10 high school coaches in this area that realize "playing fast" leads to a lot of turnovers, turnovers lead to Ls, and how to curb that strategy. Yet, our "fearless leader" continues to deflect by saying "we didn't shoot well", "we are young", etc. That's just nonsense. I do agree college coaching is clearly a cut above high school but strategy and basketball knowledge can be found in high school gyms all over the state. Hoosier_roots and recker222000 2 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Crean plays that style to help his recruiting efforts. All kids want to play fast and loose. Problem is....We STILL aren't recruiting well enough to make this style work. Need to out athlete other teams. And defend. We are NOW recruiting smart kids and playing dumb basketball. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners HoosierAloha 1 Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 I could easily find 10 high school coaches in this area that realize "playing fast" leads to a lot of turnovers, turnovers lead to Ls, and how to curb that strategy. Yet, our "fearless leader" continues to deflect by saying "we didn't shoot well", "we are young", etc. That's just nonsense. I do agree college coaching is clearly a cut above high school but strategy and basketball knowledge can be found in high school gyms all over the state. Not arguing that. But obviously if there were coaches in high school floating around capable of doing better than a handful of Sweet Sixteens and B1G Titles, they'd be found. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
KingPG21 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 I'm curious as to how serious some of these guys are that they think high school coaches could outcoach Crean....... Of course there are people on here who have suggested going and getting D2, D3, and NAIA coaches to take over the program cause they're from Indy, who cares that they'd never even compete recruiting wise. So they probably do believe that Dalton26, mdn82 and Hovadipo 3 Quote
HoosierRob Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Donovan and Stevens are pipe dreams. Would have been awesome if we got Bennett when he was available. Plasticjimmyhat 1 Quote
HoosierRob Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 IMO crean owes a lot to yogi. I truly believe the kid saved his job last year. Brass Cannon, HoosierAloha, ALASKA HOOSIER and 3 others 6 Quote
recker222000 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 IMO crean owes a lot to yogi. I truly believe the kid saved his job last year.He sure did and he made bryant look great. Bryant should of gone pro last year as his stock will never be that high again.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
brandct Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 14 minutes ago, KingPG21 said: I'm curious as to how serious some of these guys are that they think high school coaches could outcoach Crean....... Of course there are people on here who have suggested going and getting D2, D3, and NAIA coaches to take over the program cause they're from Indy, who cares that they'd never even compete recruiting wise. So they probably do believe that I don't know if they could compete on the recruiting trail to field as good of a team but as a flat out coach X's O's, teaching fundamentals, getting the best out of a player, sub patterns I sure do think some could compete with him. Hoosier_roots 1 Quote
brandct Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, HoosierRob said: IMO crean owes a lot to yogi. I truly believe the kid saved his job last year. He owes Yogi 3 million the person the man owes millions of dollars too is Wade. Hoosier_roots and ALASKA HOOSIER 2 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 He sure did and he made bryant look great. Bryant should of gone pro last year as his stock will never be that high again.Sent from my SM-J700T using TapatalkBryant wouldn't have made a roster. He'd be stuck in perpetual D league or Euro league. Bryant seems to enjoy college. I think he made a good choice as he is trying to improve enough to actually make a roster. Not sure it's going to happen though with his athletic ceiling being so low. Not athletic enough to play any position in the NBA. Kind of like Watford in that way. I thought Watfords size and shooting actually gave him a better chance. I'm still hoping to see Bryant take that next step somehow and be an NBA success, somehow. I'm just having a hard time seeing him overcome athletic disadvantages. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
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