IUFB Offseason Updates

[Home Jersey]

8 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Which is exactly what I inferred yesterday lol. And here we are 3 pages and a day later with the mob out in full force.

I made an innocent comment about lacking depth and experience (which is obvious) yet here we are.

"Implied" refers to something suggested indirectly, while "inferred" means drawing a conclusion based on evidence and reasoning. In essence, the implyer suggests, and the inferrer deduces. 

You did not imply, you proclaimed: 

On 7/30/2025 at 11:51 AM, AH1971 said:

Spots 1-22 is a very talented roster, but any injuries to QB, WR, Tackle, interior DL, LB, and/or safety is going to be problematic. Last years team was pretty fortunate with the injury bug all things considered, need that luck to continue to match preseason expectations.

You named like half the position groups on a football team :)

Obvious indeed...

[AH1971]

2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

"Implied" refers to something suggested indirectly, while "inferred" means drawing a conclusion based on evidence and reasoning. In essence, the implyer suggests, and the inferer deduces. 

You did not imply, you proclaimed: 

You named like half the position groups on a football team :)

Obvious indeed...

Yes? We lack depth in those groups.

What was your question?

[Stuhoo]

4 minutes ago, CSP said:

If you trust the coaches, I guess, it wouldnt be. I'd be questioning my coach and talent if I were a Michigan fan. I mean.. look at the QB play they allowed this year.. 

And now theyre gunna roll with a True FR QB? That's no Bueno in AHs world. 

One of our backup quarterbacks is practically an AARP member and is a former FCS starter.

It’s just that Alberto Mendoza is better than him.

[Home Jersey]

Just now, AH1971 said:

Yes? We lack depth in those groups.

What was your question?

No question, just correcting your English. 

Plenty of explanations already posted that should help remedy your misplaced worry.

Go Hoosiers!

Did CTA deserve one more year too? 

[AH1971]

14 minutes ago, CSP said:

If you trust the coaches, I guess, it wouldnt be. I'd be questioning my coach and talent if I were a Michigan fan. I mean.. look at the QB play they allowed this year.. 

And now theyre gunna roll with a True FR QB? That's no Bueno in AHs world. 

Michigan won 8 games last year despite total ineptness at the QB position and the loss of an All-American corner for the majority of the season. Teams who are as deep and as talented as Michigan can survive injuries and inefficient play without having their season derailed.

Thanks for proving my point about depth?

[Stuhoo]

6 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Michigan won 8 games last year despite total ineptness at the QB position and the loss of an All-American corner for the majority of the season. Teams who are as deep and as talented as Michigan can survive injuries and inefficient play without having their season derailed.

Thanks for proving my point about depth?

 

* with the caveat that….if Fernando never plays this year we will be a TD or more favorite in about eight games.

[CSP]

8 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Michigan won 8 games last year despite total ineptness at the QB position and the loss of an All-American corner for the majority of the season. Teams who are as deep and as talented as Michigan can survive injuries and inefficient play without having their season derailed.

Thanks for proving my point about depth?

8 wins is acceptable at Michigan? 

They survived nothing their season was a failure. 

[AH1971]

8 minutes ago, CSP said:

8 wins is acceptable at Michigan? 

They survived nothing their season was a failure. 

Coming off a national title win, the loss of their head coach, and a win at the Shoe? Every Michigan fan I know is still breathing.

[AH1971]

14 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

* with the caveat that….if Fernando never plays this year we will be a TD or more favorite in about eight games.

Not a chance

[CSP]

1 true FR, who was rated Top 200 places--- heavily courted by Bama, Colorado, and I thought Penn State is in our 2 deep... and was an early enrollee

The other 6 are RS FR.. all 6 will have been on a college campus for 20 months all having gone through 2 spring ball practices, 2 full off season, 2 fall camps, and one full season that last roughly 4 months....

[steubenhoosier]

Come to this thread looking for updates and information about how training camp is going. Instead, get to read a pi$$ing match that includes someone who insists he’s the smartest guy on the board.

injuries may, or may not happen. What ifs are wastes of time, only serving to boost someone’s post count.

if/when the sky starts falling because of injuries maybe this conversation becomes relevant. 
How about getting back to what is actually happening, and leaving the hypotheticals for another day?

[AH1971]

13 hours ago, steubenhoosier said:

Come to this thread looking for updates and information about how training camp is going. Instead, get to read a pi$$ing match that includes someone who insists he’s the smartest guy on the board.

injuries may, or may not happen. What ifs are wastes of time, only serving to boost someone’s post count.

if/when the sky starts falling because of injuries maybe this conversation becomes relevant. 
How about getting back to what is actually happening, and leaving the hypotheticals for another day?

Oh good effing Lord, this from you of all people?

[Lebowski]

I'm just going to say this and leave it at that.

I think AH1971's point is that IUFB isn't a blue blood. I could be wrong. But if I'm correct, we all agree that's true, for now.

All of this winning stuff is new to us IUFB faithful. His causes for concern are legitimate concerns. He's pointing out that losing a significant impact player at any given position will break this current team. The only thing he doesn't address (or maybe he is, I'm just not seeing it) is the success rate of this coaching staff.  Most of the staff have been coaching for decades. They've seen their fair share of major injuries to their football teams. They've had to start underclassmen due to injuries. They've even started true freshman when the position is earned. They have also been able to develop players at a high success rate. And they win, a lot. 

I could also be reading that he thinks the staff won't pull off wins with a completely decimated roster. I could be wrong. But if I'm correct, I don't disagree with that premise. I don't think any coach will win with a completely decimated roster at any level, blue bloods included. The beautiful thing about this sport is there are 22 positions to fill in order to field a team. I highly doubt we'll be seeing a roster full of backups. The numbers are just too high for that to happen. It can happen but the likelihood is low. 

My point being, this coaching staff knows how to handle these type of things. Losing someone like the starting QB is a big hit, but the coaching staff will make it work with RS underclassman or upperclassman that've been here for the long haul or what have you. We see is that happen all the time with good coaches. Good coaches have back up plans and back up plans to the back up plan. I'm not as concerned as AH1971 is but he does have some valid points folks. I just don't think we're going to see the days of a team below .500 (regardless of how bad the injury bug hits the team) with the current head football coach. I could be wrong and eat a poop ton of crow for making that statement, but this coach has never had a losing season, ever, so I like my chances. 

[Artie86]

14 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

I'm just going to say this and leave it at that.

I think AH1971's point is that IUFB isn't a blue blood. I could be wrong. But if I'm correct, we all agree that's true, for now.

All of this winning stuff is new to us IUFB faithful. His causes for concern are legitimate concerns. He's pointing out that losing a significant impact player at any given position will break this current team. The only thing he doesn't address (or maybe he is, I'm just not seeing it) is the success rate of this coaching staff.  Most of the staff have been coaching for decades. They've seen their fair share of major injuries to their football teams. They've had to start underclassmen due to injuries. They've even started true freshman when the position is earned. They have also been able to develop players at a high success rate. And they win, a lot. 

I could also be reading that he thinks the staff won't pull off wins with a completely decimated roster. I could be wrong. But if I'm correct, I don't disagree with that premise. I don't think any coach will win with a completely decimated roster at any level, blue bloods included. The beautiful thing about this sport is there are 22 positions to fill in order to field a team. I highly doubt we'll be seeing a roster full of backups. The numbers are just too high for that to happen. It can happen but the likelihood is low. 

My point being, this coaching staff knows how to handle these type of things. Losing someone like the starting QB is a big hit, but the coaching staff will make it work with RS underclassman or upperclassman that've been here for the long haul or what have you. We see is that happen all the time with good coaches. Good coaches have back up plans and back up plans to the back up plan. I'm not as concerned as AH1971 is but he does have some valid points folks. I just don't think we're going to see the days of a team below .500 (regardless of how bad the injury bug hits the team) with the current head football coach. I could be wrong and eat a poop ton of crow for making that statement, but this coach has never had a losing season, ever, so I like my chances. 

....all due respect, but for the life of me, I can't believe you spent all that time trying to dissect this guy's posts!! There's nothing worse than a combative poster who enjoys "fishing"!

[Lebowski]

1 hour ago, Artie86 said:

....all due respect, but for the life of me, I can't believe you spent all that time trying to dissect this guy's posts!! There's nothing worse than a combative poster who enjoys "fishing"!

He and I engaged the conversation to begin with. I hope I'm not coming off as combative. If I am that's certainly not my intention. 

[CSP]

The only people that know our true depth are our coaching staff. Inexperience is obvious... that's where coaching, preparation supplement. 

[8bucks]

2 hours ago, Lebowski said:

I'm just going to say this and leave it at that.

I think AH1971's point is that IUFB isn't a blue blood. I could be wrong. But if I'm correct, we all agree that's true, for now.

All of this winning stuff is new to us IUFB faithful. His causes for concern are legitimate concerns. He's pointing out that losing a significant impact player at any given position will break this current team. The only thing he doesn't address (or maybe he is, I'm just not seeing it) is the success rate of this coaching staff.  Most of the staff have been coaching for decades. They've seen their fair share of major injuries to their football teams. They've had to start underclassmen due to injuries. They've even started true freshman when the position is earned. They have also been able to develop players at a high success rate. And they win, a lot. 

I could also be reading that he thinks the staff won't pull off wins with a completely decimated roster. I could be wrong. But if I'm correct, I don't disagree with that premise. I don't think any coach will win with a completely decimated roster at any level, blue bloods included. The beautiful thing about this sport is there are 22 positions to fill in order to field a team. I highly doubt we'll be seeing a roster full of backups. The numbers are just too high for that to happen. It can happen but the likelihood is low. 

My point being, this coaching staff knows how to handle these type of things. Losing someone like the starting QB is a big hit, but the coaching staff will make it work with RS underclassman or upperclassman that've been here for the long haul or what have you. We see is that happen all the time with good coaches. Good coaches have back up plans and back up plans to the back up plan. I'm not as concerned as AH1971 is but he does have some valid points folks. I just don't think we're going to see the days of a team below .500 (regardless of how bad the injury bug hits the team) with the current head football coach. I could be wrong and eat a poop ton of crow for making that statement, but this coach has never had a losing season, ever, so I like my chances. 

Good points.  Not speaking for anyone else, but it is hard not to be skeptical of continued success at IU.  Hep. Wilson seemed to be making inroads then he imploded. Allen got us up to #8 during the covid year and I remember analysts saying things like everyone loves playing for Coach Allen and LEO.  Then we stopped winning.  

I love your comment about this staff having a history of winning.  Even if you just take his last year at JMU and IU, he had both programs ranked top 25.  But that old doubter creeps back in to remind me we did end up with a favorable schedule last year and maybe the staff just got lucky with the kids he brought over from JMU.  

Winning this year, against a tougher schedule, will certainly help bring me to Lebowski level confidence.  Especially if we can top 9 wins with some of those against top 20 opponents. 

[Pagoda]

For me, as long as we get 8 wins this year I think we keep our upward momentum.  Improvement isn’t always a straight line as we know.  Fewer wins than that and we’re dropping some games we really should win and we’ll fall out of the national discussion with pressure to bounce back in year three of Cig.

I get why there would be comparisons to former coaches, but Hep (whose time was cut short sadly) and Wilson never had a season close to last year.  Allen had one exceptional non-Covid year… turns out we had Alabama’s future HC and DC as our coordinators! (lol -  that still cracks me up)  I don’t think Cig’s success is coordinator-driven, though of course staff continuity is important and IU is doing a great job there.  IU’s current support of football is light years ahead of where it was for previous coaches.

Last year was literally unbelievable.  Inherit a team with three total conference wins in three years, get one transfer portal and modest #35 or so NIL to adjust the 100 man roster, and finish top-10 in the CFP.  I didn’t think it was possible.  A lot of talking heads ask who is this year’s Indiana?  Then they name a bunch of teams that are starting from way better points than we did.  In reality, the only team this year starting from a similar spot to where we did is Purdue.  We’ll see how that goes…

And after last season recruiting picked up.  We beat out UGA and Miami for Fernando, and both those schools have way more money than us.   Since when has IU ever done that?

CFB is uber competitive and cutthroat and it won’t be easy, there will be bumps in the road.  But IUFB is in the best position it’s ever been in.  No guarantees of course, but I think after 30 years of struggling with our FB and MBB coaches, we’ve got a great one on our hands worth getting really excited for.  Fingers crossed.

[AH1971]

3 hours ago, Artie86 said:

....all due respect, but for the life of me, I can't believe you spent all that time trying to dissect this guy's posts!! There's nothing worse than a combative poster who enjoys "fishing"!

Who is being combative? Certainly not the guy being ganged up on by the mob for making a matter of fact statement.

[AH1971]

1 hour ago, Lebowski said:

He and I engaged the conversation to begin with. I hope I'm not coming off as combative. If I am that's certainly not my intention. 

I enjoyed our back and forth. Nothing but civil. Post was taken entirely out of context by the same 2-3 posters.