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Just now, KingPG21 said:

I literally said he needs to be fired bud 

My bad missed that - thought you were saying he should stay and only Reich should go. Wouldn't have replied as much if I knew that. Just have buddies who sing Ballard's praises similar to you do and I just don't get it

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On 10/8/2022 at 3:00 PM, kreigh8 said:

You can't be a great GM and have a "great eye" for talent and completely abandon the 4 most important positions in today's NFL. Very conflicting statements, no?

Our corners are good. WRs are obviously improving with Woods and Pierce. 

LT.. drafted one. QB--- I mean, two of the last three were HOFers. Thankfully now, we can move on past Ryan easier than Wentz. 

But I'll agree he hasnt been perfect, but he's still 50x better than Grigson, thats how bad Grigson was at his job. 

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On 10/8/2022 at 3:17 PM, kreigh8 said:

My bad missed that - thought you were saying he should stay and only Reich should go. Wouldn't have replied as much if I knew that. Just have buddies who sing Ballard's praises similar to you do and I just don't get it

As they should. He's good at his job. 

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1 minute ago, btownqb said:

Our corners are good. WRs are obviously improving with Woods and Pierce. 

LT.. drafted one. QB--- I mean, two of the last three were HOFers. Thankfully now, we can move on past Ryan easier than Wentz. 

But I'll agree he hasnt been perfect, but he's still 50x better than Grigson, thats how bad Grigson was at his job. 

LT? Ballard inherited Castanzo and never bothered finding a heir apparent until he'd already retired and due to that force a project OL into LT role on primetime football just this past week. He may be a project, but these games do count.

Fair he's better than Grigson, but Grigson was at least aggressive in free agency. I still don't know what Ballard is waiting on there

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9 minutes ago, kreigh8 said:

LT? Ballard inherited Castanzo and never bothered finding a heir apparent until he'd already retired and due to that force a project OL into LT role on primetime football just this past week. He may be a project, but these games do count.

Fair he's better than Grigson, but Grigson was at least aggressive in free agency. I still don't know what Ballard is waiting on there

Gilmore? Yannick? I mean, I know Yannick was a trade.. but we still had to pay him quite a bit more than we did Ya Sin. Plus.. again, we had to devote a ton of resources to getting the Ryan trade done. 

LT has been a problem because we basically had to pay Kelly, Smith, and Nelson. It just wasn't going to work money wise drafting one in the first rd the last two drafts... and actually, while we're on the topic..  Ballard mentioned he did not like the T draft class last year. You might see what happened to Leatherwood from the Raiders. 

I don't think Raimann is a project. He's simply a rookie. 

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1 minute ago, btownqb said:

Gilmore? Yannick? I mean, I know Yannick was a trade.. but we still had to pay him quite a bit more than we did Ya Sin. Plus.. again, we had to devote a ton of resources to getting the Ryan trade done. 

LT has been a problem because we basically had to pay Kelly, Smith, and Nelson. It just wasn't going to work money wise drafting one in the first rd the last two drafts... and actually, while we're on the topic..  Ballard mentioned he did not like the T draft class last year. You might see what happened to Leatherwood from the Raiders. 

I don't think Raimann is a project. He's simply a rookie. 

Yannick is awesome and Gilmore is a great addition. But Yannick was a cap casualty and Colts traded one of their busts (Ballard hasn't drafted CBs well at all)

Smith was given an extension a year early wasn't he? I believe he still had a year, if not 2, on his rookie deal when he was given his extension. He was a very solid college guard, had a very solid rookie season moving to RT, then given a huge extension based off that year as he was injured and had Covid the other years on his deal if my memory serves correctly. Maybe he gets it ironed out, but he was just moved from RT to RG last week, why? Odd look, no?

I've said before the defense is outstanding, it's just a shame that the offense is so putrid. That's another thing, Ballard's had plenty of cap space every season as GM, he could have added weapons for Wentz and for Ryan. Julio Jones was available just this offseason. Not saying he'd be a big addition, but I can't imagine it being a bad thing for Piece and even Pittman Jr to learn from one of the best WRs the league has seen the past 15 years.

From the outside looking in, I'm not sure the brain trust (Ballard, Reich and Irsay) are even on the same page. Clearly Irsay is of the belief this is a Super Bowl caliber roster based on the Jax loss and moving on from Wentz after the come-to-Jesus meeting last season. I just find it odd that once again Colts have dug themselves a hole to dig out of in September. The AFC South is so bad, that it may not matter, but I'd love to see the Colts score offensive touchdowns again. Would be a welcome change.

Slow Monday and it's my dog's birthday so nothing better to do. Cheers

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1 hour ago, kreigh8 said:

Yannick is awesome and Gilmore is a great addition. But Yannick was a cap casualty and Colts traded one of their busts (Ballard hasn't drafted CBs well at all)

Smith was given an extension a year early wasn't he? I believe he still had a year, if not 2, on his rookie deal when he was given his extension. He was a very solid college guard, had a very solid rookie season moving to RT, then given a huge extension based off that year as he was injured and had Covid the other years on his deal if my memory serves correctly. Maybe he gets it ironed out, but he was just moved from RT to RG last week, why? Odd look, no?

I've said before the defense is outstanding, it's just a shame that the offense is so putrid. That's another thing, Ballard's had plenty of cap space every season as GM, he could have added weapons for Wentz and for Ryan. Julio Jones was available just this offseason. Not saying he'd be a big addition, but I can't imagine it being a bad thing for Piece and even Pittman Jr to learn from one of the best WRs the league has seen the past 15 years.

From the outside looking in, I'm not sure the brain trust (Ballard, Reich and Irsay) are even on the same page. Clearly Irsay is of the belief this is a Super Bowl caliber roster based on the Jax loss and moving on from Wentz after the come-to-Jesus meeting last season. I just find it odd that once again Colts have dug themselves a hole to dig out of in September. The AFC South is so bad, that it may not matter, but I'd love to see the Colts score offensive touchdowns again. Would be a welcome change.

Slow Monday and it's my dog's birthday so nothing better to do. Cheers

Rock was a top 20-25 corner last year

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1 hour ago, btownqb said:

Rock was a top 20-25 corner last year

Bought a Rock jersey his rookie year. Then he kinda wasn't great or got hurt then switched numbers his second season. Frustrating, so went with a Taylor jersey this past offseason

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On 10/10/2022 at 11:55 AM, btownqb said:

Rock was a top 20-25 corner last year

Lol 

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On 10/10/2022 at 1:25 PM, kreigh8 said:

Bought a Rock jersey his rookie year. Then he kinda wasn't great or got hurt then switched numbers his second season. Frustrating, so went with a Taylor jersey this past offseason

That stuff is very frustrating. 

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1 minute ago, KingPG21 said:

Lol 

I have zero clue why you're laughing. The stats, again last year, prove that/show that. 

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I was told Michael Pittman Jr was a 2/3 WR in the NFL in this thread. Negative. He's a #1. 

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2 hours ago, btownqb said:

I have zero clue why you're laughing. The stats, again last year, prove that/show that. 

Only thing he was top 25 at was spending time getting medical treatment 

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2 hours ago, KingPG21 said:

Only thing he was top 25 at was spending time getting medical treatment 

He was a top 25 corner last year. 

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I was told Michael Pittman Jr was a 2/3 WR in the NFL in this thread. Negative. He's a #1. 

He's had 2-100 yd games and 1 TD this season. That's terrible production from a #1. Now it's certainly not his fault alone by any means but I still stand by what I said. Think he's a top level #2 with #1 potential.

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2 hours ago, rcs29 said:

He's had 2-100 yd games and 1 TD this season. That's terrible production from a #1. Now it's certainly not his fault alone by any means but I still stand by what I said. Think he's a top level #2 with #1 potential.

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He's top 10 in the NFL in receiving yards from a WR and missed a game. 

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On 3/23/2022 at 2:37 PM, rcs29 said:

He's a #2 that is closer to the #3 line than the #1 line imo. To be fair we should see what he's capable of with a competent QB throwing to him

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This isn't what you said in your last reply, but this is one of the posts I was referring to. 

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What Pittman has accomplished all while dealing with a QB having no time to throw and people really are trying to say he isn't a WR1. Comedy.

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In my head I counted 27-28 WR's I'd take over Pittman so I suppose I concede that he is in fact a #1 based on 32 teams.

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