College Football Thread

[RoadRage 1,775]

I believe changes will and need to be made to the CFP process. I think the byes should done away with, expand the field to 16, and like they do in the NCAA Basketball Tournament, the first round games should be played on neutral fields on a rotating basis, and yes Lucas Oil should be one of those stadiums! It is kind of set up like the NIT right now....this should also make tickets more affordable and available! Just my two cents....

[Artie86 1,902]

23 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

I believe changes will and need to be made to the CFP process. I think the byes should done away with, expand the field to 16, and like they do in the NCAA Basketball Tournament, the first round games should be played on neutral fields on a rotating basis, and yes Lucas Oil should be one of those stadiums! It is kind of set up like the NIT right now....this should also make tickets more affordable and available! Just my two cents....

I have felt that NCAA football should have had a tournament/playoff similar the basketball for years. I think a field of 16 is great.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,080]

42 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

I believe changes will and need to be made to the CFP process. I think the byes should done away with, expand the field to 16, and like they do in the NCAA Basketball Tournament, the first round games should be played on neutral fields on a rotating basis, and yes Lucas Oil should be one of those stadiums! It is kind of set up like the NIT right now....this should also make tickets more affordable and available! Just my two cents....

No shot you're taking on-campus games away. 

 

[JSHoosier 20,158]

Marcus Freeman Googled Curt Cignetti. Spoiler, he wins.

[RoadRage 1,775]

17 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

No shot you're taking on-campus games away. 

 

With all due respect, the NCAA can easily do away with on-campus games in the first round if they want to, and there is nothing these elite colleges can do to stop it. They make the rules and if a football program doesn't like the rules they can choose to not participate!

[8bucks 6,430]

13 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

Coach prime is really talking like a guy that is going to head to the NFL as an assistant 

Really? I assume as a DC?  Does he call plays now?

[Dave from Dayton 3,179]

12 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

With all due respect, the NCAA can easily do away with on-campus games in the first round if they want to, and there is nothing these elite colleges can do to stop it. They make the rules and if a football program doesn't like the rules they can choose to not participate!

Those 'elite colleges' referred to are the very ones that control the NCAA. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,080]

12 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

With all due respect, the NCAA can easily do away with on-campus games in the first round if they want to, and there is nothing these elite colleges can do to stop it. They make the rules and if a football program doesn't like the rules they can choose to not participate!

I think that is all pretty evident. Doesn't have a lot to do with them getting rid of on-campus, 1st rd games. 

[RoadRage 1,775]

2 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

Those 'elite colleges' referred to are the very ones that control the NCAA. 

I wonder why they don't get a first round bye in the NCAA basketball tournament, I'm sure they would prefer one?

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,080]

12 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

I wonder why they don't get a first round bye in the NCAA basketball tournament, I'm sure they would prefer one?

I'm not sure why anyone would prefer neutral over on-campus, though. 

[RoadRage 1,775]

9 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I'm not sure why anyone would prefer neutral over on-campus, though. 

Especially if they are the home team. 

I would rather play Notre Dame at Lucas Oil or Ford Field in Detroit for example. You may be right, I just think the neutral sites work really well for the NCAA Basketball tournament, I always assumed the NIT did it the way they do for simplicity and because those tickets would be difficult to sell, I don't think that would be a problem for the CFP, but I might be wrong? Anyway, just my opinion on the current process maybe it is perfect just the way it is?

[Brass Cannon 24,704]

Neutral courts for the first round would be impossible to set up for the region.  Obviously Lucas oil would work for IU and Notre Dame but you can’t set it up that quickly. Neutral sites have to be selected months if not years in advance. 
 

Imagine that same matchup scheduled in say Houston.  

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,613]

IMO neutral fields won't draw the same number of people in the seats.  Watch the upcoming bowl games and notice how many of them are pretty empty.   A few schools travel well; many of them don't.

[go iu bb 5,875]

14 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

Especially if they are the home team. 

I would rather play Notre Dame at Lucas Oil or Ford Field in Detroit for example. You may be right, I just think the neutral sites work really well for the NCAA Basketball tournament, I always assumed the NIT did it the way they do for simplicity and because those tickets would be difficult to sell, I don't think that would be a problem for the CFP, but I might be wrong? Anyway, just my opinion on the current process maybe it is perfect just the way it is?

Do you think the schools can get 40k+ fans to travel up to 4 times? Most of the fans of any school aren't rich. They can't be spending several thousands of dollars on travel plus tickets that many times. Many won't, especially since the games are on TV. Some of the schools that get to the playoff have large, passionate fanbases but I guess we'll see how well they travel that much in a short period of time. 

In your example, those neutral stadiums work because they're close to both schools. What if the neutral site was in California or Florida?

If anything, when they make changes they may make the second round games as on-campus instead of bowl games.

The NCAAT can fill the seats because they have more than 1 game/2 teams at each site and quite a bit fewer seats to fill. They also have multiple rounds within a few days at the same site. More bang for the buck for those that go.

[DChoosier 8,339]

I am ok with the conference champions that jumped some teams to make the playoff but at that point all teams should be seeded according to their ranking etc.

Expansion to 16 would be fine but I don’t have a strong opinion between 12 or 16.

Other than that, the playoff has generated a ton of interest in a number of late season games, that would have had limited appeal in the past, and the ratings for the playoff games will be through the roof. 

[Brass Cannon 24,704]

11 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

I am ok with the conference champions that jumped some teams to make the playoff but at that point all teams should be seeded according to their ranking etc.

Expansion to 16 would be fine but I don’t have a strong opinion between 12 or 16.

Other than that, the playoff has generated a ton of interest in a number of late season games, that would have had limited appeal in the past, and the ratings for the playoff games will be through the roof. 

I’d rather they just guarantee certain conference champions a spot regardless of their ranking.  Worst case scenario a 12th team gets bumped. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, RoadRage said:

With all due respect, the NCAA can easily do away with on-campus games in the first round if they want to, and there is nothing these elite colleges can do to stop it. They make the rules and if a football program doesn't like the rules they can choose to not participate!

Pretty sure the NCAA has no control over the CFP whereas it runs the NCAA basketball tournament entirely.

[Lebowski 2,613]

I've already mentioned my desire to expand the FBS playoffs to more than 12 teams. I'd prefer the FCS model of a 24 team but wouldn't complain if it went to 16. 

Folks are pushing for neutral sites and a possible solution would be to designate existing bowl games regionally closest to the higher seed. This would also create new bowls as well. It would keep the traditionalist happy. Basically, every round would be a bowl game.

Here is what a FCS style playoff would look like this year. Take note the discussion for us IUFB faithful would be about getting a first round bye. 

 

[RoadRage 1,775]

26 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Do you think the schools can get 40k+ fans to travel up to 4 times? Most of the fans of any school aren't rich. They can't be spending several thousands of dollars on travel plus tickets that many times. Many won't, especially since the games are on TV. Some of the schools that get to the playoff have large, passionate fanbases but I guess we'll see how well they travel that much in a short period of time. 

In your example, those neutral stadiums work because they're close to both schools. What if the neutral site was in California or Florida?

If anything, when they make changes they may make the second round games as on-campus instead of bowl games.

The NCAAT can fill the seats because they have more than 1 game/2 teams at each site and quite a bit fewer seats to fill. They also have multiple rounds within a few days at the same site. More bang for the buck for those that go.

You make some valid points, I still prefer 16 teams and no byes in the first round, then you go to the bowls for the rest of the tournament. TV revenue is where the money is, but I agree, poorly attended games would not be a desirable outcome!

[DChoosier 8,339]

11 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

I’d rather they just guarantee certain conference champions a spot regardless of their ranking.  Worst case scenario a 12th team gets bumped. 
 

 

That’s what I’m saying.

The conference champ gets-in, even if they jump over a higher ranked team, but once-in everyone is slotted by ranking (ie Arizona State would still have made the playoff, for winning their conference, but there is no way they should be seeded 4th and get a bye. They should be seeded 12th).