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7 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Miami is already out. I think there's zero chance they get back in. 

They are the least worrisome of the 3 I mentioned. Would you be surprised to see IU bounced for Bama? Under the worst case scenario of 3 autos not in top 12 I could see it.

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The good news is IU is in. Looking like on the road. I think these are the 4 host sites: Notre Dame, Ohio State, Loser of Big Ten champ game, Loser of SEC champ game. 

I still think Miami should have been the last spot. Ohio State lost at home as a 3 TD favorite. Miami lost on the road (granted they were a ten point favorite) to a 9-3 team. Ohio State only fell 4 spots and still gets to host a game. Miami fell 6 spots and is out. I just don't like that. Bama gets rewarded for beating a 5-7 Auburn team just a week after losing bad to 6-6 OU. 

The million dollar question: If SMU loses are they in? It'll be between them and Bama. If SMU wins there will be no drama. 

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1 minute ago, rcbowla said:

They are the least worrisome of the 3 I mentioned. Would you be surprised to see IU bounced for Bama? Under the worst case scenario of 3 autos not in top 12 I could see it.

Are you saying you think the Mountain West could get 2 bids with a UNLV win? I see no scenario where that happens. 

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1 minute ago, rcbowla said:

They are the least worrisome of the 3 I mentioned. Would you be surprised to see IU bounced for Bama? Under the worst case scenario of 3 autos not in top 12 I could see it.

From the way I understand it -- we cannot get bounced for 'Bama. They're behind us and neither has games to play -- so as the committee dude told Reece Davis, there's no more data to gather on those teams. 

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IU is in. No way that a 1 loss team from one of the two “power” conferences gets left out. Would set a precedent that the power brokers won’t abide.

Should we be a possible first round host team? Lot’s of crazy stuff would have to happen. No way should any 3 loss team be ahead of us 

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4 minutes ago, rcbowla said:

They are the least worrisome of the 3 I mentioned. Would you be surprised to see IU bounced for Bama? Under the worst case scenario of 3 autos not in top 12 I could see it.

If Boise loses they will be out of the playoffs completely I would imagine since they are behind IU anyway. 0 chance committee is putting 2 Mountain West teams in 

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3 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Are you saying you think the Mountain West could get 2 bids with a UNLV win? I see no scenario where that happens. 

And if they do, I don’t see how it could be at IU’s expense. IU is already ranked ahead of Boise State. No way Boise State loses and then jumps us. 

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3 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Are you saying you think the Mountain West could get 2 bids with a UNLV win? I see no scenario where that happens. 

You think Sankey had the media go hard on IU? If that happens, you'll see a re-enactment of Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby at the CFP headquarters in Dallas.

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One thing Reece Davis said makes sense -- get rid of the locked-in byes. 

Give the conference champs guaranteed bids, but don't guarantee them byes. Do like the hoops tourney -- take the conference champions and the at-large teams and seed them 1 through 12. 

Boise State and/or SMU getting byes is silly. 

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6 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

One thing Reece Davis said makes sense -- get rid of the locked-in byes. 

Give the conference champs guaranteed bids, but don't guarantee them byes. Do like the hoops tourney -- take the conference champions and the at-large teams and seed them 1 through 12. 

Boise State and/or SMU getting byes is silly. 

It’s really screwing up what should be good, exciting first round games. An Indiana/Boise St game or a Tennessee/Arizona St game would be much more entertaining. Give the 8-12 seeds legitimate chances to win a game in the playoffs and go to a big bowl game. Does anyone really want to see Georgia or Texas or Oregon beat a 10-12 seed by 40 points just to go play OSU or TN or ND in the second round for a competitive game? Rank them 1-12 so you have competitive games down the board. 

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4 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

One thing Reece Davis said makes sense -- get rid of the locked-in byes. 

Give the conference champs guaranteed bids, but don't guarantee them byes. Do like the hoops tourney -- take the conference champions and the at-large teams and seed them 1 through 12. 

Boise State and/or SMU getting byes is silly. 

I hope this changes next year. Whoever is the 5 seed has the best path to the semifinals. That is silly.

I also hope one day this happens but doubt it will: Only neutral site game is the championship. Make it like the NFL and let the schools host the playoffs. Make the Rose, Fiesta, Sugar, Cotton, Peach, and Orange bowls for the next 12 teams. Even if you miss the playoff you can still have a decent season if you are a top 25 team. 

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3 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

It’s really screwing up what should be good, exciting first round games. An Indiana/Boise St game or a Tennessee/Arizona St game would be much more entertaining. Give the 8-12 seeds legitimate chances to win a game in the playoffs and go to a big bowl game. Does anyone really want to see Georgia or Texas or Oregon beat a 10-12 seed by 40 points just to go play OSU or TN or ND in the second round for a competitive game? Rank them 1-12 so you have competitive games down the board. 

It's amazing how they can screw something really good up. Whoever came up with this idea...part of me thinks they stole it from the NFL. Ex: This year the NFC South/NFC West will likely host Minnesota or Green Bay only just because they won the division. Houston will likely play Baltimore, Pittsburgh, or LA Chargers at home for the same reason. 

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2 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

I hope this changes next year. Whoever is the 5 seed has the best path to the semifinals. That is silly.

I also hope one day this happens but doubt it will: Only neutral site game is the championship. Make it like the NFL and let the schools host the playoffs. Make the Rose, Fiesta, Sugar, Cotton, Peach, and Orange bowls for the next 12 teams. Even if you miss the playoff you can still have a decent season if you are a top 25 team. 

I’m 100% behind this as well, although no chance it will happen because of the money involved with those bowls who will demand the big revenue fan bases that travel in their games. But wouldn’t it be cool if one year we have a season similar to Illinois this year at 9-3 and got to go to the Rose Bowl? How much more would that mean to a team than it will for a UGA/Bama/Tx/OSU, etc. who treat it as a stepping stone to the semifinals? Also, I went to Jacksonville for our trip to the Gator Bowl in 2020, and the week leading up to the game was packed with things for the team and events that celebrated their season. As much as the playoffs are going to mean a lot, missing that bowl game experience for teams who don’t host the game is a loss. It’s just going to feel like a road game at some point even if it’s a big time game obviously. 

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18 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Are you saying you think the Mountain West could get 2 bids with a UNLV win? I see no scenario where that happens. 

No. I am saying UNLV, Clemson and AZ St all being ranked outside top 12 but getting auto bids means 10, 11 and 12 ranked will be out. If the committee doesn't punish SMU and they want Bama in then IU is next on chopping block at #10 with Bama jumping us. It would take them inexplicably moving Bama above us but I put nothing out of the realm of possibility. Also it would take them "not punishing" SMU in that scenario. 

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7 minutes ago, rcbowla said:

No. I am saying UNLV, Clemson and AZ St all being ranked outside top 12 but getting auto bids means 10, 11 and 12 ranked will be out. If the committee doesn't punish SMU and they want Bama in then IU is next on chopping block at #10 with Bama jumping us. It would take them inexplicably moving Bama above us but I put nothing out of the realm of possibility. Also it would take them "not punishing" SMU in that scenario. 

This can’t happen. They answered this on the reveal show tonight in talking about Miami, Bama, S. Car and Ole Miss. Teams that are done playing are not moving. Bama can’t jump IU. The only movement will be seeding, or autos bumping out the 11/12 seeds. 

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16 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

This can’t happen. They answered this on the reveal show tonight in talking about Miami, Bama, S. Car and Ole Miss. Teams that are done playing are not moving. Bama can’t jump IU. The only movement will be seeding, or autos bumping out the 11/12 seeds. 

I get it but after last year I don't trust them

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1 hour ago, rcbowla said:

No. I am saying UNLV, Clemson and AZ St all being ranked outside top 12 but getting auto bids means 10, 11 and 12 ranked will be out. If the committee doesn't punish SMU and they want Bama in then IU is next on chopping block at #10 with Bama jumping us. It would take them inexplicably moving Bama above us but I put nothing out of the realm of possibility. Also it would take them "not punishing" SMU in that scenario. 

You have it incorrect.

IU being at #10 is WITH the auto bids already in place.  IU is #9 in the CFP.  Currently they have SMU as the #3 seed (ACC auto bid) and Boise State at #4 (MWC auto bid).  Arizona State is at #12 as the fifth highest ranked conference winner.

Clemson is the only team that could steal and extra spot by beating SMU.  That would make Boise State the 3 seed and Clemson the 4. If the committee keeps their word, SMU would still be in the bracket as well and Alabama would be knocked out.  Now, what they do with SMU's seeding is up for debate -- they could keep them where they are or they could adjust for the loss and move them down to 11 with the Big 12 champion being at #12.

One interesting scenario to be tested is if Boise State were to get beat badly by UNLV.  At that point, the winner of the Big 12 would likely be the 4 seed since they are ranked higher than UNLV, but UNLV would be in as the 12 seed.  But does the committee keep their word and keep Boise State in the CFP over Alabama if Clemson also wins?

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