Looking to next season

[Uspshoosier]

Right you are and it truly was creepy.   I think Capt. Jack stayed on as a regular for the remainder of that particular season.  He's also had a couple of guest appearances in later years.

He got his own spin off series from Doctor who called torchwood. If u like Doctor who it is worth a watch

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[X-Hoosier]

I want to see a starting lineup of Newkirk, Johnson, OG, Morgan and Bryant. JBJ, Hartman, Davis and Jones coming off the bench. I don't think Crean has it in him to bring JBJ off the bench.

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[Stuhoo]

37 minutes ago, X-Hoosier said:

I want to see a starting lineup of Newkirk, Johnson, OG, Morgan and Bryant. JBJ, Hartman, Davis and Jones coming off the bench. I don't think Crean has it in him to bring JBJ off the bench.

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I hear ya, but a healthy JBJr is starting. Hartman will start also.

 

[HoosierAloha]

18 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

I hear ya, but a healthy JBJr is starting. Hartman will start also.

 

This should interesting how it plays out to start the season.

If JBJ is health:  RoJo, JBJ, OG, Hartman, TB  Key Reserves:  JN, CuJo, JMor, Davis  Could play: Green, McSwain  HVC:  Gelon, MSB

I still don't know how Newkirk figures into the starting lineup.  In the Crean era, Pritchard is the only starter who came off the bench the following season (I believe).  Will RoJo or JBJ come off the bench after starting for a few years?  Will we see that dreaded three guard lineup that stunk it up in Maui? 

Guards:  We have a lot of versatility at the guard spot.  RoJo and JBJ have shown the ability to bring the ball up in previous years.  If RoJo is capable of the PG duties he would be my starter there.  JN could replace either JBJ or RoJo as the first guard off the bench.  I look for CuJo to play that OG/JMor role from last season, developing and learning then having an impact later in the season.  Green will get run in spot minutes probably similar to Niego last season.  If there is an injury in the backcourt he might see more minutes.  Gelon will probably get mop up minutes or a few minutes here and there to launch from distance.

Wings:  We should have a lot of versatility on the wing with both JMor and OG being able to play on the outside or inside with mismatches.  If we get high level defense from this group that will go a long way of keeping opponents from scoring in the lane.  I see Hartman starting along with either JMor or OG.  OG projects as All B1G type players but JMor had a solid frosh campaign while playing injured.  McSwain appears to be a freak athlete but still needs to learn the system.  He might be in a similar position as OG/JMor last season.  I can't see him taking minutes away from any of the players in front of him.

Bigs:  Thomas Bryant with a strong summer should be one of the top bigs in the B1G with Ethan Happ.  It will be interesting to see if he's worked on his handles to take other bigs off the dribble.  The few times he did it last season he beat his man.  Davis will probably come off the bench most of the time to replace TB but hopefully will get some minutes on the floor together.  Davis will also be learning the system as he arrives in Btown late in the summer.  This could be one of the better 1-2 bigs in the B1G.

 

Sorry for the long post, really stoked about the season and really bored while recovering!

[Brass Cannon]

49 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

I hear ya, but a healthy JBJr is starting. Hartman will start also.

 

Is a healthy JBJ the same JBJ we have seen in the past. 2 surgeries he might not ever be himself again. 

[HoosierAloha]

29 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Is a healthy JBJ the same JBJ we have seen in the past. 2 surgeries he might not ever be himself again. 

I don't see it impacting his shooting or defense...  If he's on the floor with RoJo, OG, JMor, TB I'm okay with it as the other 4 are neutral or plus defenders. It could effect his ability to get to the rim though.  If he's not healthy enough to get back to where he was he could be that Z3 or Roth type bomber from deep.

[coonhounds]

I don't see it impacting his shooting or defense...  If he's on the floor with RoJo, OG, JMor, TB I'm okay with it as the other 4 are neutral or plus defenders. It could effect his ability to get to the rim though.  If he's not healthy enough to get back to where he was he could be that Z3 or Roth type bomber from deep.

He could get to rim but couldn't finish or would get rejected. He needs to drive when available. His defense must improve regardless of health. I think it will but if he isn't better than before on defense that will be a issue imo

[HoosierAloha]

He could and did finish before.  What he needs to develop is a solid floater though.  He has shown the ability to throw down in traffic or make a few high bank shots.  I'm not sure he'll have the sneaky athleticism he had before.  This is where a floater or getting more crafty as opposed to relying on athleticism will help him.  I don't disagree with his defense.  I would have JN starting if JBJ decides he doesn't want to play defense.  I would give some of his minutes to CuJo to prove a point.  I just don't think it'll happen.

[Crimson and Cream]

1 hour ago, HoosierAloha said:

He could and did finish before.  What he needs to develop is a solid floater though.  He has shown the ability to throw down in traffic or make a few high bank shots.  I'm not sure he'll have the sneaky athleticism he had before.  This is where a floater or getting more crafty as opposed to relying on athleticism will help him.  I don't disagree with his defense.  I would have JN starting if JBJ decides he doesn't want to play defense.  I would give some of his minutes to CuJo to prove a point.  I just don't think it'll happen.

A floater would do great things for JBJ's offensive game, he did get blocked a lot at the rim in past years.

[HoosierAloha]

5. A few people have asked if I was surprised by any omissions when we polled coaches to see which player they'd most like to have on their team for this season. My short answer is ... No. I think all reasonable answers were provided -- along with a bunch of unreasonable answers. But if the question is who's the best player that not a single coach mentioned, the answer, I believe, is probably Indiana's Thomas Bryant.

[HoosierAloha]

[X-Hoosier]

Last we started out the year with Yogi, JBJ, Troy, Hartman and Bryant. This year we could easily go with Newkirk, RJ, OG, Morgan and Bryant. Which would be enough offensively and probably best defensively. With a BIG scoring punch in JBJ off the bench, Hartman, Jones and DD all coming off the bench. That'd be the best route IMO. And going 9 deep is enough.

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[VO5]

2 hours ago, X-Hoosier said:

Last we started out the year with Yogi, JBJ, Troy, Hartman and Bryant. This year we could easily go with Newkirk, RJ, OG, Morgan and Bryant. Which would be enough offensively and probably best defensively. With a BIG scoring punch in JBJ off the bench, Hartman, Jones and DD all coming off the bench. That'd be the best route IMO. And going 9 deep is enough.

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I like this lineup, but I would almost consider it a lock that JBJ starts. Not that I want him to, I just know that's what Crean will do.

[HoosierAloha]

I like this lineup, but I would almost consider it a lock that JBJ starts. Not that I want him to, I just know that's what Crean will do.

Same, I do think that CuJo can be that scoring threat off the bench that we'll need. I'm excited to see how JMo, OG, and Bryant have all developed over the summer. I'm also thinking that Hartman and Bryant are guaranteed starters.

[GloryDays]

I think we will see a lot of three guard sets,like it or not.I'm not sold on RoJo in the lead role and really think Newkirk will see a ton of time there.Really think Morgan sees as much time as Hartman.

[HoosierAloha]

I think we will see a lot of three guard sets,like it or not.I'm not sold on RoJo in the lead role and really think Newkirk will see a ton of time there.Really think Morgan sees as much time as Hartman.

I'm not sold on the three guard lineup that much for several reasons
1) this is the deepest most versatile front court Crean has had at IU
2) we have three guards coming off injuries, two that cost them a season
3) the three guard lineup was horrendous to start last season

I'm good with running it for s few minutes here and there if we need to but I can't see us going long periods running three guards.

[BubbleKnuts]

Yeah, we have a more traditional team. 3 solid F/C sophomores who have big expectations. (Best class in Creans tenure?) I said it last year, but only next year will tell. Senior Collin and junior guards with some bench fire from Deron, Cujo and McSwain. 

1. Rojo/Newkirk

2. JBJ/Cujo

 Now we get a bit..hmm..

3.Collin/Juwan

4.OG/McSwain

 

And of course..

5. Thomas/Deron

 

Lotta promise. 

[HoosierAloha]

1 hour ago, BubbleKnuts said:

Yeah, we have a more traditional team. 3 solid F/C sophomores who have big expectations. (Best class in Creans tenure?) I said it last year, but only next year will tell. Senior Collin and junior guards with some bench fire from Deron, Cujo and McSwain. 

1. Rojo/Newkirk

2. JBJ/Cujo

 Now we get a bit..hmm..

3.Collin/Juwan

4.OG/McSwain

 

And of course..

5. Thomas/Deron

 

Lotta promise. 

It's nitpicking but I see JMo as more of a 4 than 3.  OG will probably get the nod to defend the 4 unless the opponents 3 is extremely quick and Hartman cannot stay with them.  I see JMo coming in and OG sliding down to the 3.  I have no idea where or what McSwain will be or do.  I believe DD has the ability to play a 4 against a bigger front if we decide to go that route.  I like the flexibility of our front court this season.  I would love to see Bryant and DD moving away from the lane against bigger teams like pu and Wiscy.  I really think we'll have the opportunity to beat some teams by inverting with bigger guards and "bigs" who can shoot from outside.

[GloryDays]

I'm not sold on the three guard lineup that much for several reasons
1) this is the deepest most versatile front court Crean has had at IU
2) we have three guards coming off injuries, two that cost them a season
3) the three guard lineup was horrendous to start last season

I'm good with running it for s few minutes here and there if we need to but I can't see us going long periods running three guard set
Totally agree with the disdain of the 3 guard set.RoJo and Blackman are probably going to start.I'm just not sold on either one running the point.Really think the 3 spot could see a lot of split time with Blackmen,Morgan and Hartman.Newkirk is likly going to play a lot.

[HoosierAloha]

Unfortunately, that's probably what will happen if everyone stays healthy. Part of the reason it was successful early last season is Yogi and JBJ weren't interested in playing defense. Another part was TB unable to defend at a high level early his freshman year.

If we have the bigger wings (Hartman, OG, JMor, McSwain, and DD) I'd like to see more of them and have RoJo, JBJ, JN, and CuJo split time at the guard spots. If Green and CuJo are all world frosh than I wouldn't mind seeing more of the three guard lineup. However, like you I'm sure we'll see a little bit of both whether we like it or not.