(2019) SF Keion Brooks Jr. to Kentucky

[IUHoosier5 1,640]

Wishing injury upon any player is a total scum move. Our fan base has to be better than that!


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[HoosierAloha 30,068]

So sad. What is wrong with world.

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I don’t think the world has changed all that much. A vehicle was created to turn the town idiot into a world idiot and a lot have taken on that challenge.


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24 minutes ago, IUHoosier5 said:

Wishing injury upon any player is a total scum move. Our fan base has to be better than that!


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I'm sure our fan base has its share of morons but I believe this individual is a UofL fan.

[JaybobHoosier 11,852]

People around this area think opposite. He was thinking IU until he saw us lose and saw our “true colors”. Imo IU, UK, and KU are the most vocal fans with negativity when it comes to this stuff. I know a lot of our fans try and justify our stupidity and act like it doesn’t have an effect on recruits but that is wrong. Our holier than thou attitudes along with our constant negativity had an effect. Maybe we deserve to be fired as much as Glass, because us a group of fans have sucked this year just as bad. They see this. It’s easy to see how it will be when things aren’t going good. At the time UK ramped up their efforts it was all sunshine and unicorns. They wouldn’t have been any better if they were in our situation, but they are not. They are in a solid spot.
 
 
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Don’t forget his parents and family were pushing him to UK. It’s been rumored from very credible sources Keion loved IU and wanted to go, but his parents kept pushing UK. I think our bad stretch and what surrounded it pushed everything to UK. I can’t blame him at all for choosing UK. They are a much better program than we are by far, just hope IU can get there with Archie.

Coach Miller has a minimum of 2 years left, and hope people will support the program than being constantly negative. Trust me, I have my worries and concerns, and do voice them, but not at the sacrifice of my love for IU. Everyone is different, and appreciate the different viewpoints, but hope people realize Coach Miller deserves more time.


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[Joe DeLow 1,278]

If De’Ron is back and healthy, having him and Phinisee plus TJD and Race answers the concerns I had at the beginning of this past season. Maybe even just TJD and Race fix those.

For such an basketball crazed fan base, I feel that many still overlooked the importance of a consistent and reliable PG. We clearly saw that effect this season during the times Phinisee was out or recovering from the concussion.

With the currently assumed roster, I think we have a better constructed roster than this past year. Now it’s about development and adding a shooter grad transfer. We can’t replace Romeo and Juwan, but we can make improvements across the roster to mitigate losses of individual contributors.


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We will have a good PG and should have done bodies down low. The problem is the 3 and 2 spots. Durham has peaked. He is who he is at this point. We have no 3 if Hunter can’t play and Smith transfers. We still have no one to shoot the ball. We still have no one on the wing who can take their guy and consistently go get a bucket next year. We could be good defensively but our offense is going to struggle yet again.


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19 minutes ago, Joe DeLow said:

We will have a good PG and should have done bodies down low. The problem is the 3 and 2 spots. Durham has peaked. He is who he is at this point. We have no 3 if Hunter can’t play and Smith transfers. We still have no one to shoot the ball. We still have no one on the wing who can take their guy and consistently go get a bucket next year. We could be good defensively but our offense is going to struggle yet again.


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Why do you think Al has peaked?  I still see a lot of potential growth in ball handling and shooting.  He’s also widely recognized as a hard worker.  

[HinnyHoosier 5,013]

Why do you think Al has peaked?  I still see a lot of potential growth in ball handling and shooting.  He’s also widely recognized as a hard worker.  

Because.
Joe just is who he is at this point.


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[8bucks 6,476]

Because.
Joe just is who he is at this point.


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Has Joe peaked?


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[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

We will have a good PG and should have done bodies down low. The problem is the 3 and 2 spots. Durham has peaked. He is who he is at this point. We have no 3 if Hunter can’t play and Smith transfers. We still have no one to shoot the ball. We still have no one on the wing who can take their guy and consistently go get a bucket next year. We could be good defensively but our offense is going to struggle yet again.


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Thanks for restating my point with extreme negative assumptions added. Great insight, so well thought out.


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[HoosierAloha 30,068]

Has Joe peaked?


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Every time I think he’s peaked he elevates his game. I hope that’s what we see from Durham next season.


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[Bailey7878 2,506]

I doubt (hope) that our crazy fan base had any effect on Brooks' decision, but this is shameful. ... Good luck to Keion at UK. 
 
 

The guy is a lousiville fan. Either way some people should not be allowed on twitter.

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[Bailey7878 2,506]

People around this area think opposite. He was thinking IU until he saw us lose and saw our “true colors”. Imo IU, UK, and KU are the most vocal fans with negativity when it comes to this stuff. I know a lot of our fans try and justify our stupidity and act like it doesn’t have an effect on recruits but that is wrong. Our holier than thou attitudes along with our constant negativity had an effect. Maybe we deserve to be fired as much as Glass, because us a group of fans have sucked this year just as bad. They see this. It’s easy to see how it will be when things aren’t going good. At the time UK ramped up their efforts it was all sunshine and unicorns. They wouldn’t have been any better if they were in our situation, but they are not. They are in a solid spot.
 
 
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UK fans are worse than iu fans. He will get a taste of that at some point if they drop a few games

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[Bailey7878 2,506]

Wishing injury upon any player is a total scum move. Our fan base has to be better than that!


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He is a lousville fan not IU.

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[8bucks 6,476]

Every time I think he’s peaked he elevates his game. I hope that’s what we see from Durham next season.


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Yeah but I was talking about Joe the poster.


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10 hours ago, Joe DeLow said:

The sunshine and unicorns of this board thought Grant Gelon would contribute his freshman year. The same thing is constantly said over and over again every year about every recruit. If you think not getting dog Keion is fine because we got Franklin, you’re in denial of what this team needs and how much better Keion would have made us. Difference between 20 wins and 15. NIT at best for yet another season.


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I never saw one person who thought Gelon would contribute as a freshman.    That said, your overall point is correct.  Fans expect freshmen to step on campus and play like college players; and that happens far less frequently than not.   It's why teams that have seniors (without a roster of one and done's) generally do well.  

Who has said not getting Keion is fine because we have Franklin?   Are you creating things so you can argue against them?   It's a little surprising that you'd bring up a point that says "how much better Keion would have made us" a season after Romeo....didn't.   

I'll bet you anything you want to bet Indiana wins more than 15 next season.

[Joe DeLow 1,278]

Why do you think Al has peaked?  I still see a lot of potential growth in ball handling and shooting.  He’s also widely recognized as a hard worker.  

He’s a decent decision maker. Maybe average playmaker. Can hit some shots. He is at his ceiling. He didn’t show anything that would say otherwise. We saw what Phin could be when healthy, which is a PG who can control a game. We even saw what Smith could be when locked in. But Al was just Al. Kind of like how Robert Johnson was. He really didn’t get much better as a player from freshman to senior year. He was steady and good enough. That’s Al. He’s not going to put you over the top, but he’s a good piece to have.


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[Bailey7878 2,506]

I never saw one person who thought Gelon would contribute as a freshman.    That said, your overall point is correct.  Fans expect freshmen to step on campus and play like college players; and that happens far less frequently than not.   It's why teams that have seniors (without a roster of one and done's) generally do well.  
Who has said not getting Keion is fine because we have Franklin?   Are you creating things so you can argue against them?   It's a little surprising that you'd bring up a point that says "how much better Keion would have made us" a season after Romeo....didn't.   
I'll bet you anything you want to bet Indiana wins more than 15 next season.

The problem is fans always pump up players they have never seen play. IU fans do it alot and its totally unrealistic.

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5 hours ago, 8bucks said:

I can’t remember if it was you or another poster who was giving out similar praise for Rob last year. When we missed on Garland that poster said we would be very pleased with Rob even in year 1.

Those were spot on predictions, so if from you hopefully you are right on Franklin.


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I was very on Phinisee's side a couple of years ago, so I'd say I was one giving him praise.  I don't know if it was me or someone else you're referring to; but I knew he was  a solid player who would be a terrific college guard.    Franklin will be a solid college player too, in my opinion.   Watching both, I honestly don't know what Romeo can do that Franklin can't.   Romeo may have done it for 4 years; but as a senior?   I'm not sure I would buy Romeo was a better player by any significant margin for that one season.  And Franklin's longer and plays better defense.

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33 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said:

The guy is a lousiville fan. Either way some people should not be allowed on twitter.

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Yeah. I realized that after I sorta went through the string. But he was just basically responding to an IU fan who was bashing Keion for the way he made his decision. ... Puzzling behavior. 

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3 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said:

The problem is fans always pump up players they have never seen play. IU fans do it alot and its totally unrealistic.

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Amen to that.   Absolutely 100% agree.   Been true for a long time and I've called a lot of people out for believing that simply because a kid wears "INDIANA" on his jersey, he should be a terrific college player immediately.   I don't know if you know my history or not; but things got very heated on another board because I said :  Tijan Jobe, Bawa Muniru, Mike White, Jessean Gray-Ashley, Ben Allen, and a few others were stiffs and that Crean spends most of his time trying to out think the room.    Lots of guys believed exactly as you said....that players were better than they really were because they were OUR players.   Probably the same people who stalk on Twitter and then  boo kids when they pick other schools.    Embarrassing to say the least.