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2017 IUBB recruiting

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Idk. It seems to me like we are going to hit a couple really good ones. We seem able to get in the mix with most. I think/hope the staff has a good idea which players they are expecting. We have a fairly narrow target list going right now. Even Waters, Wilkes would be a great class except we need a big. Waters, Wilkes, and a good big will make an excellent class.
Waters, Smith, and a great big still an excellent class.


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1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Idk. It seems to me like we are going to hit a couple really good ones. We seem able to get in the mix with most. I think/hope the staff has a good idea which players they are expecting. We have a fairly narrow target list going right now. Even Waters, Wilkes would be a great class except we need a big. Waters, Wilkes, and a good big will make an excellent class.
Waters, Smith, and a great big still an excellent class.


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This is where I'm at too.  I feel fairly confident we land Waters.  I feel less confident but still in the lead for Wilkes.  That would be an extremely solid class with Durham but there will be more.  If we land one of the top bigs it goes from a extremely solid class to an excellent class that should keep IUBB on top of the B1G.  I still want two bigs or a really good big and two wings.  I'm still terribly afraid of having future teams that mirror the days of HP at the 5 with Hartman and Williams backing him up...

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I like the fact that Indiana is in the mix with a lot of talent for 2017.. I just hope that "in the mix" translates to getting LOI's signed by a couple of these dudes. I'm still not high on IU picking up Wilkes or Scruggs. I do think Wilkes should be the priority though.   

Also, quick rant: Every freakin player is coming out with a highly publicized "list" now via social media. When did this begin? And really, is the releasing of a "Top 10" even news-worthy? If you're the player, it seems pretty arrogant to put out a list of your potential suitors that is 10 teams long. Just let me know when you've made your decision. It's like the Lebron James Cleveland/Miami decision only 10 teams instead of 2 (and maybe less money). And if you're the schools.. Congratulations!! You made the top 10 list of a high school senior where you have a 1 in 10 chance of actually landing the guy. Woo hoo!!  

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Does the number of offers we throw out help or hinder our recruiting?  I don't know if we're 'normal' in that regard when it comes to a second tier program.  Clearly, the top dogs can be very selective and operate with a very narrow focus on their recruiting efforts.  And before I get jumped on, I don't mean second tier as a slam against our team or CTC, but the facts are that we are not an elite program at this time and I know our recruiting approach can't be as narrowly defined as is Duke's for example.  But are we too far overboard in casting such a wide net with offers?  Does the number of offers to the same position players give the impression to recruits that maybe we really aren't all that interested in them when we've got 5 other offers out for the same position?   Inquiring minds want to know.

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Does the number of offers we throw out help or hinder our recruiting?  I don't know if we're 'normal' in that regard when it comes to a second tier program.  Clearly, the top dogs can be very selective and operate with a very narrow focus on their recruiting efforts.  And before I get jumped on, I don't mean second tier as a slam against our team or CTC, but the facts are that we are not an elite program at this time and I know our recruiting approach can't be as narrowly defined as is Duke's for example.  But are we too far overboard in casting such a wide net with offers?  Does the number of offers to the same position players give the impression to recruits that maybe we really aren't all that interested in them when we've got 5 other offers out for the same position?   Inquiring minds want to know.


On that note, I'm not sure we're second tier. I would put puke and Duke in the top tier. Nobody in the country is recruiting at their level right now.

In the second tier Would be KU, Arizona, UCLA, MSU (in the last few years), and a few others.

IU would most likely be on the third tier by landing top 20ish classes most of the time. IU has benefited from underrated players like OG, Sheehey, Oladipo, and a few others.

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In the category of FWIW from Eric Bossi: 

Ten teams poised to make a jump in 2017 team rankings

INDIANA

In the fold: SG Al Durham (NR 3-star)

On the line: Tom Crean and the Hoosiers already have a commitment from the high-scoring Durham, but they want more. Number one on their wish list is Indiana native -- and five-star prospect -- small forward Kris Wilkes (No. 18). The Hoosiers appear to be in a good spot for Wilkes and they’ve also positioned themselves to make a legitimate run at four-star point guard Tremont Waters (No. 36). Four-star wing Justin Smith (No. 105) has already taken an official visit and four-star big man Deng Gak has Indiana in his final five. Others like five-star Nick Richards (No. 19), four-star wing Jordan Tucker (No. 42) and guard David Beatty (No. 135) along with three-star big men Clifton Moore and Brandon Huffman remain possibilities.

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3 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

pap is this accurate?



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I'd add Bamba and Richards as long shots, same as before. Consider the source that changed your mind. 

Huffman now not looking like UNC after a recent commit so still on the board. Jaylen Butz. 

 

Combine that with 7 months, about 50 top 100 kids uncommitted and fluctuation in rankings...

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From Zagoria, a capsule summary of who's visiting where.  I pulled out our targets; the whole list can be viewed at the link.

Here's a look towards this weekend's recruiting visits and other news. This list was compiled via information from players, coaches and media reports, including HoopSeen.com, and will be updated all weekend.

**Kris Wilkes, the 6-foot-8 small forward from North Central (IN) High School, will take an official visit to UCLA this weekend (Sept. 22-25). Wilkes visited Illinois earlier this month (Sept. 9-11) and plans to visit Indiana (Sept. 30), Xavier (Oct. 28), and UConn (Nov. 3). He released his top five last month.

**Tremont Waters, the 5-11 point guard from Notre Dame (CT) High School, will take his third official visit this weekend to Indiana. Waters took officials to Georgetown and Kentucky earlier this month and plans to take his official to Kansas later this month (Sept. 30).

**Clifton Moore, the 6-10 forward from from Hatboro-Horsham (PA), trips to Ole Miss and will also visit Northwestern (Oct. 6).

**Deng Gak, the 6-foot 11 center from Blair (NJ) Academy, takes his first official visit to Miami this weekend (Sept. 23-25). Gak also has plans to visit Florida (Oct. 7-9), Indiana (Oct. 14-16), and Kansas (Oct. 21-23). He is also considering Duke.

**Brandon Randolph, a 6-foot-5 shooting guard from Westtown (PA) School, will take his second official visit to Oregon this weekend (Sept. 23). Randolph previously visited Syracuse earlier this month (Sept. 9) and recently cut his list to four schools: Arizona, Oregon, Syracuse, and Wake Forest. He also had a home visit this week with Indiana head coach Tom Crean and assistant Chuck Martin.

 

9/23-9/25 Visits

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In a situation where we over sign who do you guys think would leave? Also while on this topic, is Hartman the only guaranteed open Scholly assuming his knee injury is not severe and he does not red shirt

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