Buy or Sell

[Magnanimous 4,617]

Buy or Sell: This team is better built for the NCAAT than the 2012-13 squad.

[biteoftheapple 4,115]

There is much more evaluation needed.

[djsalway 4,161]

There is much more evaluation needed.

Agree. Way too early in the year and we haven't seen enough of everyone not have we played a really tough opponent to gauge where we are. Should be closer to an answer in a week.

[Seeking6 33]

Can't evaluate yet. I'll know more after the Duke game....plus NCAAT is all about match ups and draw. Our team got a bad one in 2013.

 

Hopefully our path might be a little more friendly this year with Regionals (most likely for us) are in Chicago or Louisville.

[hoosierpap 14,300]

I think the point is that it's sorta an unknown.

I'm buying. Senior led PG vs. Freshmen led PG

[Hurryin' Hoosiers 1,999]

We had a better 1-2 punch in the frontcourt with Zeller/Watford than we do now I think, especially offensively. 

 

Depth overall is probably better now but individually no one can match Zeller or Oladipo.

 

I think we might struggle too much against bigger teams like Purdue to be a big threat this year.

 

For now, I'd give an edge to 12-13.

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

I think the point is that it's sorta an unknown.

I'm buying. Senior led PG vs. Freshmen led PG

With you on this one. The leadership and direction Yogi brings that he didn't have then will be huge at the point.

 

And, I think TB's style of post-play is better suited to our team than Zeller's. Zeller was an amazing basketball player, but I think TB is a better post-player.

 

At the moment, I haven't seen any other teams play that I think can shut us down as hard as Syracuse did. It's going to be a heck of a year. Have tickets for Houston gone on sale yet?

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

We had a better 1-2 punch in the frontcourt with Zeller/Watford than we do now I think, especially offensively. 

 

I think we might struggle too much against bigger teams like Purdue to be a big threat this year.

Purdue plays big, but they're slower and less athletic for the most part.

 

We'll know after this week though (hopefully). Vandy plays huge. If Jones and Kornet can't shut us down, Hammons and Haas won't either.

[KB0 827]

With you on this one. The leadership and direction Yogi brings that he didn't have then will be huge at the point.

 

And, I think TB's style of post-play is better suited to our team than Zeller's. Zeller was an amazing basketball player, but I think TB is a better post-player.

 

At the moment, I haven't seen any other teams play that I think can shut us down as hard as Syracuse did. It's going to be a heck of a year. Have tickets for Houston gone on sale yet?

 

I've seen this thrown around a lot after three games against nothing competition. I think people are forgetting how good freshman Zeller was. 

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

I've seen this thrown around a lot after three games against nothing competition. I think people are forgetting how good freshman Zeller was. 

Well, I can only evaluate TB three games in. I can compare him to Zeller against his first three opponents, but I mean, we can only work with what we've got.

 

And like I said, I think Zeller was a better all-around basketball player, but he didn't play the traditional post in the same way TB does. We don't need all the extra benefits Cody provided this year, we need a solid traditional post. At the moment, they are not comparable in terms of overall impact on the team or on an individual level, I am evaluating their fit as pieces in the team.

 

3 v. 3 stat lines.

Minutes OR %Points Points 2s 3s FTs OR DR A TO Blk Stl PF 

[Alford Bailey 12,399]

Sell, as of right now. Zeller and Co. were better on D. This team is gonna rely to much on the 3. That will get you in trouble in a hurry in the tourney.

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

Sell, as of right now. Zeller and Co. were better on D. This team is gonna rely to much on the 3. That will get you in trouble in a hurry in the tourney.

You think Zeller and Co. were better on D after their games against Stony Brook, Chattanooga, and Evansville? Holding Creighton to 65 is more impressive than holding Evansville to 73.

[Alford Bailey 12,399]

You think Zeller and Co. were better on D after their games against Stony Brook, Chattanooga, and Evansville? Holding Creighton to 65 is more impressive than holding Evansville to 73.

HUH?

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,549]

Very similar. Both lack depth.
Sr. Yogi >>>>Fr. Yogi
JB >>> Hulls
Vic > Troy
Watford >>>> Max
Zeller >> TB

Rob = Sheehey
OG = Hanner
Hartman >>> Ethrington
Elston >> Morgan
Ziesloft = Abell
Hollowell = Priller LOL. No >>>

My math puts 2013 as a +2 ranking. Very similar.

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

HUH?

... I don't know that I understand the confusion. We're comparing the 2012-13 team to this team. You're saying the 2012-13 team was better on defense. Though, I could have just compared our current adjusted defense to the previous team's (hint, we're better this year), I thought a more fair comparison was 2012-13 at this point in their season compared to this point in the current season. The first three games played in 2012-13 were the three I listed. The best opponent in that grouping was Evansville (120th). Evansville scored 73 points. The best opponent we've played so far is Creighton (83rd). Creighton scored 65 points. I believe this scoring difference is reflective of the current team's defense.

 

I think that's as simple as I can make it. Let me know if you need it broken down some more.

[Miller'sTheMan 1,652]

Zeisloft is better than Abell

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,549]

Zeisloft is better than Abell

tough call. Worse on D. Better shooter. Less versatility. More beneficial to the "team"??? Probably, could close overall.

[Stuhoo 81,523]

Zeisloft is WAAAAY better than Abell

Hartman is WAAAAAY, WAAAAAY better than Etherington.

Senior Yogi is WAAAY, WAAAAY, WAAAAY better than Freshman Yogi.

 

And CWat is quite a bit better than Max.

[mdn82 25,510]

This team has so many things I like more than 2012-13 but the same could be said vice versa. You can't replace Vic's Defense (due to HoosierTrav) that year. That D was the best I saw since DJ White where we had a shutdown defender. On the flip side as much as I love Cody and he does so many things better than TB he had a tendency to play small. TB is a dog. I love that. I love our potential.

[mdn82 25,510]

I should add my number 1 concern for this team is Thomas Bryant wearing down by March due to Crean's practices.