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Thomas Bryant and Emmitt Holt cited for illegal alcohol posession

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So its now Thursday and still no punishment for these two? What in the world is the wait or is good old crean going to do nothing!

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There's an event at Lucas Oil Stadium tonight with Crean, Wilson and Lemonis.  If the issue is sidestepped today then look for the infamous very late Friday afternoon press release.

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So its now Thursday and still no punishment for these two? What in the world is the wait or is good old crean going to do nothing!

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remember how long it took them to do anything last year? its no different this time lol

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So its now Thursday and still no punishment for these two? What in the world is the wait or is good old crean going to do nothing!

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I'd rather have the investigation completed thoroughly before any punishment is mandated.

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Wait, this is a first. A pissing match that turned into citing case law. This place is siiiiiiiiiiick!!!!


There's no "pissing match," as you so eloquently framed it, just the correction of misinformation to prevent people who don't know what they're talking about from misleading others. And, while many, even most, might not care, some do.

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Makes you wonder where McRobbie was last year? Was he exercising patience? Allowing his "department" managers to do their jobs in hope that would be sufficient? Or just hoping it had all been a bad dream?

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From what I've heard in the past: McRobbie doesn't micromanage athletics. So that sort of makes his comments that much more of a big deal. I suspect there is no more room for not even one more straw on this camels back.

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No, you're wrong. A law student who prepares legal documents for someone other than a supervising attorney commits the crime of the unauthorized practice of law.

Fink v. Peden, 17 N.E.2d 95 (1938)
The practice of law is defined in 7 C.J.S., Attorney and Client, 703, Section 3(g), as follows: 'The general meaning of the term, 'practice law' or 'practice of law', is of common knowledge, although the boundaries of its definition may be indefinite as to some transactions. As generally understood, it is the doing or performing of services in a court of justice, in any matter depending therein, throughout its various stages, and in conformity with the adopted rules of procedure; but it is not confined to performing services in an action or proceeding pending in courts of justice, and, in a larger sense, it includes legal advice and counsel, and THE PREPARATION OF LEGAL INSTRUMENTS and contracts by which legal rights are secured, although such matter may or may not be pending in a court. To 'practice law' is to carry on the business of an attorney at law; to do or practice that which an attorney or counselor at law is authorized to do and practice; to exercise the calling or profession of the law; usually for the purpose of gaining a livelihood, or at least for gain; to make it one's business to act for, and by the warrant of, others in legal formalities, negotiations, or proceedings.' (Capitalization my own.)

 

Maybe you lost interest before you got to the part near the end where it defines 'practice of law' as a service that is performed for "usually the purpose of gaining a livelihood, or at least for gain; to make it one's business to act for..."

 

I never suggested that Bryant and Holt should solicit students for hire.  I suggested they ask law students to help them prepare an avalanche of motions to cause the legal system to expend an absurd amount of resources on these two extremely insignificant cases to the point the court begins to ask itself "How much effort can I responsibly as a servant of the state continue to apply to these meaningless cases? and to cause the servants of the cash strapped government of the State of Indiana to wonder "did I already bite off a lot more than I can chew by wasting the limited state resources I have already expended?"

 

And I suggest this for no other reason than to present the subsequent dismissal of the cases as a bountiful creampie to the face of the squawking and shrieking contingent of the fanbase that suggests Bryant and Holt should be dismissed from the program over an accusation, not even a conviction, of possession of an unopened bottle of vodka during Welcome Week celebrations, and this without knowing a single piece of evidence in the case.

 

That said, the charge is so insignificant, that even if they actually did it, I don't care at all.  I only wish they could have enjoyed Welcome Week more before they were harassed by an overzealous Excise Cop.

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More from the Indy meeting.  Very blunt statements about lack of leadership on the team and maybe he's expecting too much from some people.  Have to believe that's primarily directed at Yogi.  Also said in hindsight he wishes he had dismissed HMP after his initial OWI offense.

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Did you see the word "usually" there? No? It's the first word you highlighted.

 

Usually is not the only word highlighted.  You might want to read the rest.

 

I'm not going to bicker with you.  And I am not going to explain the rest for you.

 

You presented the piece.  Read it, and if you don't understand it, you really need to stop arguing.

 

You are making a fool of yourself.

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You two take it to PM's if you want to, this isn't a legal aid forum to decide their defense or the legality thereof.

 

Oh hey, I just now read your reply.

 

Will do.

 

Actually will not be discussing case law further here or in PMs.

 

The argument as is the case with nearly all sports message board arguments is ridiculous.  This one is ridiculous+.

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