Hoetzel to transfer

[8bucks 7,088]

Mine was
April
Priller
Tom
Tim
Stan

[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

According to IDS Max would have red-shirted if not for DD injury.  I think he would have been a good player and wish him well, I am just not sure he was/is as good as he thought

I'm not discounting that, but i'd say Priller and/or april would have been ripe for a redshirt

[OliviaPope40 7,188]

NONONONO!!!!!!

[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

If a professor constantly has students dropping his class, whose fault is it? The students or the professor?

Student

[TheStillman 991]

If a professor constantly has students dropping his class, whose fault is it? The students or the professor?

 

To me it is the student.  I dropped a few classes in my days and I can tell you the decision always came down to my own schedule and what I was able to handle that semester.  If you drop every class where you don't like your professor for whatever reason then you will probably never graduate.

[southernindianahoosier 422]

I DONT think this was a Creaning. Just an example of a staff and player being on different pages.

If there was no need for any players to leave. Do you think he still would have transferred?

Maybe Crean said in the locker room "we need 2 players to leave. If anyone wants to leave voluntarily, there's the door... It makes it easier on everyone else"

[IU Hoosier41 14,465]

If a professor constantly has students dropping his class, whose fault is it? The students or the professor?

Ever take Intro to Accounting in the business school? It's the student.

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,070]

Ever take Intro to Accounting in the business school? It's the student.

I took Honors Calculus. It was the teacher. 50% drop rate. I stuck it out because "I'm no quitter" and it was the worst grade in my academic career. My best friend who I beat on the first exam by 10% dropped the class. Took it the following semester with a new prof and got an A. I'm still salty on that one haha.

[BenzOrBeamer 351]

So you guys think that if one professor has a drop rate much higher than his contemporaries that it's the student's fault?

[Alford Bailey 12,845]

So you guys think that if one professor has a drop rate much higher than his contemporaries that it's the student's fault?

I think even though everyone knows the professor is the problem and has been for years, they still keep him around.

[OliviaPope40 7,188]

It is your fault and no one else's that you decided to drop a class.

[AZ Hoosier 9,592]

Good news, this bumps up the odds of Yogi and Troy returning

 

How so? You mean they won't be fighting Stan and Max for playing time? #bwahaha #softball

[AZ Hoosier 9,592]

I think even though everyone knows the professor is the problem and has been for years, they still keep him around.

 

Huge contract buyout = tenure. SMH

[Hurryin' Hoosiers 2,018]

It is your fault and no one else's that you decided to drop a class.

 

Not always.

 

It depends on the situation.  Everyone is trying to make it a black and white debate where it's either the professor's fault or the student's fault.  It's not always going to be one or the other.

[LazOffTheBench 3,638]

I don't think Max leaving bumps up the odds of anyone staying, leaving, or committing. We really don't have any idea what's going on inside the program.

 

The "Max is arrogant for wanting playing time" meme disturbs me. What facts support this representation of his character? The same type of "facts" that supported the "Luke Fischer is a big baby for being homesick" garbage we were treated to when he left? We later found out the real reasons behind Fischer's transfer were quite a different story. And we are a worse team for him having left.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

So you guys think that if one professor has a drop rate much higher than his contemporaries that it's the student's fault?

Let's exaggerate and say Crean has an average departure rate of 2 students of 13 per year. Of the 11 that don't leave, most graduate with a degree, a few have gone on to play in the NBA, and another larger group have played in the D-League or professionally abroad. Every class any one has ever taken has this exact scenario happen. A population of students fall along a bell curve. Most do average, some far exceed average, and some fail.

[8bucks 7,088]

I had calc m215 my first semester. At the beginning of the class I had a few friends in the class too but after about a week they were gone. I ran into them a few weeks later and they said they dropped that class to get a better professor. I never went this route my first few years and basically chose the classes I needed based on the time I wanted to take it.

My last two years I would punt early and drop a class if it seemed the professor was not going to be a good fit.

That simple strategy I attribute to a significant increase in my GPA.

[Lt. John McClaine 541]

Could have been a really great player here later on. I think his ego got in his way a bit. He wanted more playing time but looked lost and scared when he got out there. He felt he deserved more playing time aka he had some sense of entitlement. He came in as a shooter but like some of our "shooters" in the past, he didn't shoot the ball when he was in the game

 

I completely agree, and when Coach did try and put Max in the game he was awful on Defense.  I would venture to say that out of our 9-10 guys that played, Max was the Worst Defender.  He ALWAYS got beat baseline, it never failed.  I would see it happen before it did.  It had to have been on the other teams scouting report to take Max baseline because when he did play earlier in the year he would always get beat.  

[Lt. John McClaine 541]

I like that lineup a lot.

 

My only question would be Nick Z. Does anybody know what his options are? The way I understood is he is going to graduate in 1 year. Can he do a 2nd Grad degree or something?

 

** If Nick is gone then I would like to see us go after a PG replacement for Yogi.

 

 

Nick transferred to IU with 2 years of eligibility so I don't know why he would leave IU.  The kid wants to play, and I think that he warranted playing time with his contributions to the team this year.  I like Nick Z.  

[PointBlank 116]

Ever take Intro to Accounting in the business school? It's the student.

It's the weed them out course.