2015 #IUBB Offseason Thread

[FindEndNow 198]

People now days are way too caught up in what it says on a sheet of paper than what is going on in the game.

A wide open 12 footer is an easier shot than a highly contested layup. And if you've proven you can hit the 12 footer, a simple shot-fake might get you that wide open layup.

actually no it isn't. You should listen to analytics. The mid range game has went away for a reason. It's a harder shot than a layup or 3.

[KingPG21 6,587]

actually no it isn't. You should listen to analytics. The mid range game has went away for a reason. It's a harder shot than a layup or 3.

Yeah just look at the top league in the world, where the top players in the league only shoot threes and layups. Oh wait, it is actually the exact opposite. All the top players have at the very least a respectable mid-range game. Analytics pushing kids away from the midrange game is so dumb

[FindEndNow 198]

Yeah just look at the top league in the world, where the top players in the league only shoot threes and layups. Oh wait, it is actually the exact opposite. All the top players have at the very least a respectable mid-range game. Analytics pushing kids away from the midrange game is so dumb

coaches want 3's and layups. Some players do have good mid range games. But analytics show that it is a much worse shot to take.

[Iufan2324 158]

He only shot 13, which is a very small sample. He shot double that his first year.

He never said an amount he needed to take he said 40% I'm just stating facts

[MikeRoberts 7,448]

coaches want 3's and layups. Some players do have good mid range games. But analytics show that it is a much worse shot to take.

a point about this is that it's not that simple to just look at a stat sheet. If you have a good midrange jumper, you will have an easier time getting to the rim. If you don't have one or don't even attempt any like the majority of Crean's players, then it makes it so much more difficult to get to the rim. Having one helps the other

[FindEndNow 198]

a point about this is that it's not that simple to just look at a stat sheet. If you have a good midrange jumper, you will have an easier time getting to the rim. If you don't have one or don't even attempt any like the majority of Crean's players, then it makes it so much more difficult to get to the rim. Having one helps the other

if you have a 3pt spot them is easier to get to the rim. Percentages for the mid range shot ate very very low. It's a harder shot compared to a layup or 3. Play to the percentages. The difficulties deal more with angles at which the ball have to be shot from 17 feet. It is just easier to get it right from 3.

[KingPG21 6,587]

coaches want 3's and layups. Some players do have good mid range games. But analytics show that it is a much worse shot to take.

Terrific. Too bad only looking at a black and white perspective, which the analytics are giving, doesn't really make sense. Encouraging a kid who doesn't finish well around traffic to more or less abandon something he does well with the midrange game is just terrible coaching. I don't really care that much about what analytics say about which shot a kid should be taking. The midrange game exists for a reason and is exploited by the best for a reason

[GloryDays 6,015]

a point about this is that it's not that simple to just look at a stat sheet. If you have a good midrange jumper, you will have an easier time getting to the rim. If you don't have one or don't even attempt any like the majority of Crean's players, then it makes it so much more difficult to get to the rim. Having one helps the other

 Yeah, a good head fake after a couple made 5 footers will get em almost every time.

Then the layup is less contested as the defense is caught off balance.If not you can always pass.

[sddowning 146]

I see Anthony Davis hit a lot of midrange jumpers. He seems to be a decent player. So does Lamarcus Aldridge. Some guy named Dirk has a midrange game. Chris Paul, Kobe, KG, Gasol bros, Zach Randolph, Bosh. We could go on for a while.

[JSHoosier 21,260]

I don't care what the analystics say, an effective midrange is a nice weapon to have in your arsenal as is a floater.  Imagine if Cody Zeller would've utilized the midrange here?  Opposing bigs would've had to step out to guard him making it easier for him to guard, and I seem to remember him having a midrange in high school.

 

Analytics can be a useful tool, but they shouldn't be the be all end all.

 

EDIT:  Easier to drive I should've said.

[KingPG21 6,587]

Just to put my last thing on this. I'd much rather have a kid with a great midrange game than one that just runs bullheaded to the rim or jacks a three every time down

[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

coaches want 3's and layups. Some players do have good mid range games. But analytics show that it is a much worse shot to take.

That's why GOOD coaches use analytics as a guide, not as a rule.

Their brain can show them when analytics is flat out wrong for a specific situation.

[FindEndNow 198]

I see Anthony Davis hit a lot of midrange jumpers. He seems to be a decent player. So does Lamarcus Aldridge. Some guy named Dirk has a midrange game. Chris Paul, Kobe, KG, Gasol bros, Zach Randolph, Bosh. We could go on for a while.

and you're talking about some of the best players in the NBA. And some of those players don't have 3pt shots. Including Aldridge, Marc Gasol and Zach Randolph. Bosh gained a 3pt shot to be able to play with LeBron. Pau is capable of it. Chris Paul is just really really good and so is Kobe(who is Top 15 player of all time).

[FindEndNow 198]

That's why GOOD coaches use analytics as a guide, not as a rule.
Their brain can show them when analytics is flat out wrong for a specific situation.

and those analytics show that the mid range shot should be a last resort almost. Once you get inside the FT line then you're getting away from the mid range shot and into the floater/layup range. And by now players are all working on some sort of floater inside 15 feet.

[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

A shot is only a floater, if it's a floater. And for most players ANY floater is a worse shot than a shot.

[sddowning 146]

and you're talking about some of the best players in the NBA. And some of those players don't have 3pt shots. Including Aldridge, Marc Gasol and Zach Randolph. Bosh gained a 3pt shot to be able to play with LeBron. Pau is capable of it. Chris Paul is just really really good and so is Kobe(who is Top 15 player of all time).

Thats my point. Some of the best players in the league have a great midrange game.

[FindEndNow 198]

Thats my point. Some of the best players in the league have a great midrange game.

But how many use a 16-23 foot jump shot? They try to get inside 15 feet.

[WayneFleekHoosier 49,525]

@IndianaMBB: Squad up.

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[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

Good find WayneFleek----always good to see! 

[Rookie33 932]

What died on Elston's head?!?!?