Potential coaching change suggestions

[drewheck 749]

I hope not.

me too

[Bigdaddy76 111]

You've gotta be kidding me with Brad Brownell.  If you don't like Crean's resume, why on earth would you like Brownell's?

Have you ever even watched Clemson play? You could watch them for 5 mins. and realize that his teams are waaay better prepared than what we have had in the last few years. Including the sweet 16 years. They are 2 totally different kinds of coaches though. Crean just wants to get the best talent he can get, and hope that they can win. This guy actually coaches basketball. He teaches defense, rebounding and "ouch" actually taking care of the basketball. Given the choice, I will take the coach every time vs the cheerleader/recruiter.   

[Never Daunted 398]

Bruce Pearl: He'd bring 5-stars all day and is a likable guy.

Sean Miller: See above.

Brad Stevens: May get a lot of 4-stars but is obviously a top 5 coach.

Bill Donovan: Guy can both recruit and coach.

Gregg Marshall: Verdict is still out.

Shaka Smart: Good coach, but can he be great?


Let's get one of these guys.

[Geometry Hoosier 1,151]

Pearl is a Likable guy, but he's got a pretty shady past.

[JSHoosier 20,315]

Bruce Pearl: He'd bring 5-stars all day and is a likable guy.

Sean Miller: See above.

Brad Stevens: May get a lot of 4-stars but is obviously a top 5 coach.

Bill Donovan: Guy can both recruit and coach.

Gregg Marshall: Verdict is still out.

Shaka Smart: Good coach, but can he be great?


Let's get one of these guys.

Marshall is one I'm kind of torn on.  On the one hand he's been coaching longer than Crean albeit only one year more, and has the same number of Final Fours actually that's the only time he's gotten past the round of 32.  On the other hand his FF is recent (more recent than Crean's was), he's averaged 30 wins the past four seasons (Crean has never had a single 30 win season), and he has more conference titles granted he hasn't been in conferences like the B1G.

 

I wouldn't dislike the hire, but it wouldn't be a home run.

[Lt. John McClaine 541]

I guess to somewhat redact my own thread and redirect it: What IU Alums (or coaches with IU ties) are out there? Again, whenever the next coach takes the reigns I think it might be someone from the program. I'm interested in discussing who's out there, what they've done, and what they are postured to do. Unfortunately, the Army has kept me too busy to keep an eye on all of this, but might as well celebrate the new year. 

Honestly there's not too many IU alums that I'd want to coach at IU.  The list that would garner attention would be Randy Wittman, Mike Woodson, Calbert Cheaney, Dane Fife, and that's about all that I can think of.  As far as outside the Hoosier Tree, the coaches that I would want IU to make a play for would be guys like Tony Bennett, Fred Hoiberg, Frank Martin, Jay Wright, and that's about all I can think off the top of my head.  

[AKHoosier 6,960]

Have you ever even watched Clemson play? You could watch them for 5 mins. and realize that his teams are waaay better prepared than what we have had in the last few years. Including the sweet 16 years. They are 2 totally different kinds of coaches though. Crean just wants to get the best talent he can get, and hope that they can win. This guy actually coaches basketball. He teaches defense, rebounding and "ouch" actually taking care of the basketball. Given the choice, I will take the coach every time vs the cheerleader/recruiter.   

 

Brad Brownell has been at Clemson for 4 years.  He's made the tournament once, in the 2010-2011 season.  Since then, he's gone 52-46.

 

You don't fire Tom Crean to hire Brad Brownell.  You just don't.

[aace22_94 13]

Lawrence Frank is an interesting name (with IU ties) that I haven't seen mentioned yet. He's currently on Doc Rivers' staff with the Clippers.

[biteoftheapple 4,115]

Lawrence Frank is an interesting name (with IU ties) that I haven't seen mentioned yet. He's currently on Doc Rivers' staff with the Clippers.

Oh my.

[323SGrant 1,176]

I like Bruce Pearl for the National Championship he brought to USI, but unfortunately I don't trust him. Sean Miller is a big time recruiter and I saw his X team beat IU soundly a few years ago. After that loss I believe IU improved to 17-1 and later in the season the "wheels fell off" when Gordon was injured and Sampsongate began.

[Jafo71 149]

What about Jay Wright? I know hes kind of a pretty boy, but hes a solid coach and recruits well. Although he doesnt have much success recruiting the midwest. I actually like Brownell. He plays fundamental basketball and he would recruit better at IU.

Since we are playing the "name game", JW is the name I think of as well. The CAA is not a major conference that the Big East was, he gets paid less than CTC make now, and Nova facilities are sorely lacking.

http://www.vuhoops.com/villanova-basketball/2014/1/29/5354986/villanova-has-facilities-issues-that-will-compound-over-time


Brownell would be good as well. Stevens is the slightest of chances.

The other names make me laugh as there is no chance, especially Billy D. Are you kidding me? He makes over 4 mil py (1 mil more tgan CTC), is practically #2 in the SEC without trying hard, has facilities galore, his school makes booku cash from the SEC/ESPN TV deal, nice weather, and doesn't have to worry about overly fickle basketball fans harshing his gig because they only do that with UF fb coaches. Sounds like a miserable job to me! dws

[Bryan Medema 1,488]

Honestly there's not too many IU alums that I'd want to coach at IU.  The list that would garner attention would be Randy Wittman, Mike Woodson, Calbert Cheaney, Dane Fife, and that's about all that I can think of.  As far as outside the Hoosier Tree, the coaches that I would want IU to make a play for would be guys like Tony Bennett, Fred Hoiberg, Frank Martin, Jay Wright, and that's about all I can think off the top of my head.  

 

Definitely agree. I suppose I'm more predicting that it will be an alum who takes over in the future. Given that, whenever the Crean era ends, one of the chief complaints will be in-state recruiting, I'm sure someone will brilliantly decide that an alum (regardless of laurels) will be strongly pursued.

[jonz44 810]

Bruce Pearl: He'd bring 5-stars all day and is a likable guy.

Sean Miller: See above.

Brad Stevens: May get a lot of 4-stars but is obviously a top 5 coach.

Bill Donovan: Guy can both recruit and coach.

Gregg Marshall: Verdict is still out.

Shaka Smart: Good coach, but can he be great?


Let's get one of these guys.

1)Pearl ain't happening...no chance in hell!
2) Miller isn't leaving what he's built at Arizona to come to this mess!
3) Stevens probably isn't leaning Boston for a couple of years.
4) Donovan? See answer #2
4) Marshall? What I see/read I like...a lot!
5) Smart? Sorta, kinda, maybe...nah

Now, back to Marshall. Did I mention I like him? Lol

[Stuhoo 81,376]

I could see Kenny Johnson getting a hc offer if we get rid of crean or they would just give the job to martin, or Buckley our current assistants

 

No.

[jonz44 810]

Marshall is one I'm kind of torn on. On the one hand he's been coaching longer than Crean albeit only one year more, and has the same number of Final Fours actually that's the only time he's gotten past the round of 32. On the other hand his FF is recent (more recent than Crean's was), he's averaged 30 wins the past four seasons (Crean has never had a single 30 win season), and he has more conference titles granted he hasn't been in conferences like the B1G.

I wouldn't dislike the hire, but it wouldn't be a home run.

From what I've seen/read I like Marshall. I feel like Crean was in a better position to succeed at Marquette than Marshall was at Winthrop and IMO Marshall out performed him.
He seems to meet or exceed expectations whereas Crean seems to under perform.

[drewheck 749]

No.

I know if something happens I could see that happening though like when dakich took over for sampson . but in all seriousness if that happened it would be even worse of a train wreck

[jonz44 810]

I could see Kenny Johnson getting a hc offer if we get rid of crean or they would just give the job to martin, or Buckley our current assistants

OMG, visions of that might make me vomit!

[jonz44 810]

No.

I'd like to add a No,noooo, nononono, NO!!!!!

[ALASKA HOOSIER 11,276]

I wonder if D. Fife would be a good fit. he seems to be doing well at MSU and i like his scrappiness

[Lt. John McClaine 541]

Keith Smart is another name that I'd forgot to mention with an IU connection.  My big thing when it comes to Pro coaches coming down to College is the recruiting side of things.  I just don't know if they can recruit the same way that a College Coach with lots of experience in the game can.  That's why if we went after a different coach, then i'd want us to get a proven commodity, somebody that has established his strengths.  Quite honestly in hindsight, Crean was a good hire to me, and I really want it to work out, but we all know why we have our reservations, and there's no need for me to complain about it.  Go Hoosiers!