College Bball Thread

[Stuhoo]

26 minutes ago, X-Hoosier said:

Or a kid figuring out you can go get paid without going to college.

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Yes! That too.

The UK model is more along the lines of " figuring out you can go get paid without going to college...for very long."

[X-Hoosier]

 

Yes! That too.

The UK model is more along the lines of " figuring out you can go get paid without going to college...for very long."

I know you hate UK.. we all do. But you gotta go to class at UK. It isn't North Carolina.

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

I know you hate UK.. we all do. But you gotta go to class at UK. It isn't North Carolina.

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Ugh

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[HoosierAloha]

Ugh

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Something like this I suppose with flexible hours and no permanent location.

12 hours a semester composed of...

(3 CH) History of puke university

(campus orientation)

(3 CH) Elective

(basketball)

(3 CH) 21st Century Clandestine Operations

(Getting cash undetected)

(3 CH) Freshman Writing

(Signature practice)

[Stuhoo]

35 minutes ago, X-Hoosier said:

I know you hate UK.. we all do. But you gotta go to class at UK. It isn't North Carolina.

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You have to stay eligible at UK. I believe that in nine years of Calipari, only one of his scholly recruits (Poythress) has obtained a college degree.

That makes them within the corners of the page, but it also makes them poster children for making a mockery of the concept of the student athlete. And that's WITH giving them the benefit of the doubt that they're not pulling UNC/UL type shenanigans.

 

[X-Hoosier]

Something like this I suppose with flexible hours and no permanent location.

12 hours a semester composed of...

(3 CH) History of puke university

(campus orientation)

(3 CH) Elective

(basketball)

(3 CH) 21st Century Clandestine Operations

(Getting cash undetected)

(3 CH) Freshman Writing

(Signature practice)

Writing Your Name 101.

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[X-Hoosier]

 

You have to stay eligible at UK. I believe that in nine years of Calipari, only one of his scholly recruits (Poythress) has obtained a college degree.

That makes them within the corners of the page, but it also makes them poster children for making a mockery of the concept of the student athlete. And that's WITH giving them the benefit of the doubt that they're not pulling UNC/UL type shenanigans.

 

The student-athlete term was destroyed a while ago sadly. And that doesn't start with college. That starts in elementary school now. Sports and school if you feel like it. What happens at UK? No clue. If something is happening it show itself eventually. I'm not worried about them being caught. I'd say it is best they don't. Not that it is best they cheat if they are. I'd just hope they doing what they're doing cleanly. Because it creates a higher level of competitiveness. Which is good for the sport. Sports need villains. Makes it more interesting. I wish Indiana was a villain on the CBB stage but we're just here at the moment while schools like Kentucky and Duke are dominating on the recruiting trail and great on the court.

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

Something like this I suppose with flexible hours and no permanent location.

12 hours a semester composed of...

(3 CH) History of puke university

(campus orientation)

(3 CH) Elective

(basketball)

(3 CH) 21st Century Clandestine Operations

(Getting cash undetected)

(3 CH) Freshman Writing

(Signature practice)

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[Stuhoo]

39 minutes ago, X-Hoosier said:

The student-athlete term was destroyed a while ago sadly. 

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That's waaay too cynical, especially in light of the college degrees obtained by: Hulls, Watford, Oladipo, Zeller, Sheehey, Etherington, Roth, Pritchard, Creek, Ferrell, Jones, Williams, Elston, and many others that I'm probably forgetting. 

Oh, and also, every one of those IU degree recipients played on a B1G championship squad.

 

[Alford Bailey]

19 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

 

You have to stay eligible at UK. I believe that in nine years of Calipari, only one of his scholly recruits (Poythress) has obtained a college degree.

That makes them within the corners of the page, but it also makes them poster children for making a mockery of the concept of the student athlete. And that's WITH giving them the benefit of the doubt that they're not pulling UNC/UL type shenanigans.

 

The majority of those guys are becoming multi millionaires with 1-2  years of college. Pretty good deal imo. The questions becomes can they manage that money.

[Stuhoo]

6 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

The majority of those guys are becoming multi millionaires with 1-2  years of college. Pretty good deal imo. The questions becomes can they manage that money.

 

Well said. My takeaway is that UK is stacking their roster with eligible players that are being forced to pretend to be student athletes when they need not ever see a college campus.

 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

 

Well said. My takeaway is that UK is stacking their roster with eligible players that are being forced to pretend to be student athletes when they need not ever see a college campus.

 

Yep

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[X-Hoosier]

 

Well said. My takeaway is that UK is stacking their roster with eligible players that are being forced to pretend to be student athletes when they need not ever see a college campus.

 

Huh? There are only a couple players a year ready for the NBA right out of High School. Last year Ben Simmons was the only one. 2014 class.. Karl Anthony-Towns possibly but only because he played in the Olympics and a taste of professional basketball young. Wiggins the year before that. Basically all players need at least one year in college or overseas.

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[Stuhoo]

Huh? There are only a couple players a year ready for the NBA right out of High School. Last year Ben Simmons was the only one. 2014 class.. Karl Anthony-Towns possibly but only because he played in the Olympics and a taste of professional basketball young. Wiggins the year before that. Basically all players need at least one year in college or overseas.

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Why "huh?"

I'm not saying they ARE ready for the NBA; I'm saying that kids like the Harrisons , Marcus Teague, James Young etc. etc. are not on campus to be student athletes. They wish they were in the NBA right away even if they are not ready to be there. In any event, they have no business being on a college campus.

[X-Hoosier]

Why "huh?"

I'm not saying they ARE ready for the NBA; I'm saying that kids like the Harrisons , Marcus Teague, James Young etc. etc. are not on campus to be student athletes. They wish they were in the NBA right away even if they are not ready to be there. In any event, they have no business being on a college campus.

There isn't a single athlete who would choose school over making millions.

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[mdn82]

There isn't a single athlete who would choose school over making millions.

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Baseball players do it every year when drafted out of high school. They have options of millions and shoot it down.

[X-Hoosier]

Baseball players do it every year when drafted out of high school. They have options of millions and shoot it down.

Basketball players would not. There is a much different demographic when it comes to those players.

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[Stuhoo]

9 minutes ago, X-Hoosier said:

There isn't a single athlete who would choose school over making millions.

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Dunn eventually picked himself back up, both from the injury that threatened to derail his NBA career and from his shattered personal life. He won Big East Defensive Player of the Year and Player of the Year in 2014-15 after averaging 15.6 points, 5.5 rebounds, and 7.5 assists per game.
 

He declared for the draft that year, but didn’t hire an agent and ultimately returned to Providence.

“I think my decision was best for me and my family, and I think I really did improve this year,” Dunn said. “What made [the decision] so special is they allowed me to make my own choice. I could have easily went to go get the money and impact my family right away, but I wanted to do the right thing for me. Just to have that support, and having your back and allowing you to make that decision, and allowing you to learn from your decision, it was great.”

Beyond improving on the basketball court, beyond winning a game in the NCAA tournament, Dunn wanted to set an example by getting his degree.

“It was really important. That’s something nobody can take away,” Dunn said. “I was doing it because I’ve been putting a lot of work into my education. I’ve been at Providence College for four years, and I was at both summer sessions.

“I was putting all that time into the education and trying to be a good role model to my family. Trying to be a good role model for my sisters. They don’t play sports, and I wanted to show them that sports aren’t everything. You can still be successful in the other side of the world.”

[Stuhoo]

7 minutes ago, X-Hoosier said:

Basketball players would not. There is a much different demographic when it comes to those players.

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Bryant wanted to hang out with his teammates and enjoy the big-man-on-big-campus college spring season because, while the lure of pro riches is strong, there’s a lot to be said for life outside the real world. And you’d better believe pro basketball is rim-rocking real.

"I thought, I love playing under Coach (Tom) Crean and playing with my guys,” Bryant said during Wednesday’s IU alumni gathering at Huber’s Wineries in southeastern Indiana. “I knew the key things I needed to get better at, so I thought I’d take that time to work on the things I needed to get better at, then go home and return to IU ready for the summer.”

Bryant projected as a possible first-round pick, perhaps even a lottery selection. As a freshman, he averaged 11.9 points and 5.8 rebounds. He shot nearly 70 percent from the field and was three-for-three in double-figure scoring games in the NCAA tourney, including an impressive 19 points in the Kentucky win.

Still, the first round means guaranteed millions of dollars, so not just passing on the draft, but also on the chance to work out with NBA teams, participate in the NBA Combine and receive input from NBA coaches, scouts and others was a significant decision for this former McDonald’s All-America.

After all, 117 underclassmen did declare for the draft, and if most returned to school, all got a thorough evaluation from NBA officials.

“I talked to my parents, I talked to my coaches, the coaching staff and I talked to a couple of other people that are close to me to help me with this process,” he said. “The best decision for me was to just return. It was my decision to not test the waters. I wanted to stay here and be with my teammates, the coaching staff and get better.”

[mdn82]

Basketball players would not. There is a much different demographic when it comes to those players.

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You said, "any athlete." That's just not true even in basketball.