College Bball Thread

[HoosierAloha]

welcome to college basketball. I counted 6 by woodberry alone the other night

 

He had two eye pokes in his junior year and two solid choke hols his senior year.  That's what Iowa calls progression.

[TheWatShot]

welcome to college basketball. I counted 6 by woodberry alone the other night

He also walked with the basketball twice after rebounds with an official looking right at him. 

[HoosierAloha]

"I am a bobble head."  - Bill Walton

 

17 "Conference of Champions" references by the great one.  A solid number but feel he could have had a better performance.

[Brass Cannon]

So a week or two ago there was a pretty interesting conversation about Purdues conference championships on a UCLA message board but now I can't remember which one, can anybody help me out?

[X-Hoosier]

Stetson isn't allowed to be in the tourney this year. BUT.. they play Florida Gulf Coast in the Atlantic Sun Conference Tournament Championship... Obviously if FGCU wins they go to the NCAA tourney after being a 4 seed in their conference tourney and beating the 1 seeded North Florida team by 32 tonight. Now.. if Stetson beats FGCU... then the regular season champ goes to the NCAA tourney.. which is North Florida.. who just lost to FGCU by 32... stupid.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Why is Stetson even allowed to play if they aren't eligible? 

 

 

October 2015:

MACON, Ga. – The Atlantic Sun (A-Sun) Presidents' Council announced it has granted the Stetson Men's Basketball program partial relief from conference sanctions for the upcoming season through the conference appeal process. Earlier this year, Stetson received national sanctions, including a ban from the 2016 NCAA Men's Basketball Championship, for missing the NCAA academic performance rating (APR) standard by one point.    [more on this at:  http://www.news-journalonline.com/article/20150527/SPORTS/150529540 ]

The decision by the Council permits the Hatters to play in the 2016 Atlantic Sun Men's Basketball Championship. Stetson will realize a reduced conference revenue distribution for 2015-16, all of which will be directly invested in its new Leadership and Mentoring Program designed in-part to address student-athlete retention issues.

Stetson faced NCAA sanctions after falling below the APR postseason qualification threshold when an NCAA audit resulted in a single change to 2012 calculated results. The one retention point change, in combination with Stetson voluntarily permitting men's basketball student-athletes to depart in the interim, all of whom are making satisfactory progress towards degree completion at other institutions, led to the penalty.

"We deliberated with focus on Stetson's academic standing and the state of its current program," the Council shared in reaching its decision. "Our balancing point was imposing a penalty to match the 2012 offense, especially when current student-athletes' opportunity to compete is at stake. Our unified commitment to the academic success of our students is paramount and this led us to conclude this matter with a thoughtful, timely definition of Stetson's upcoming season."

The A-Sun Presidents' Council does not have purview over the Stetson men's basketball team's ineligibility for the NCAA Championship or National Invitation Tournament, sanctions which remain in place. Should the Hatters win the A-Sun Conference Tournament, the NCAA Automatic Bid will be awarded to the regular season champion, as detailed in the attached policy.

A-Sun NCAA Automatic Qualification (AQ) Policy

1. If an ineligible school wins an A-Sun Tournament with AQ at stake, then A-Sun regular season champion will be the AQ recipient; and

2. If an ineligible school also finishes as the A-Sun regular season champion, the highest eligible finisher based on regular season play will be the AQ recipient; and

3. If a tie exists for the highest eligible finisher in regular season play, the team advancing the furthest in the A-Sun Tournament will be the AQ recipient; and

4. If tied teams advance equally in A-Sun Tournament play, the higher seed will be the AQ recipient.

[MartintheMopMan]

If Stetson's fans aren't currently making constant "Hatter" to "Hater" jokes then I'm severely disappointed in them.

[Uspshoosier]

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Interesting look at past winners sos

[Naturalhoosier]

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Interesting look at past winners sos

i never would have guessed that. Ever. I would have expected more 3-5's.

Nice work!

[Brass Cannon]

It makes sense. Winning the conference means you can't play the team with the most wins to boost your SOS. Why isn't little bro on that graphic?

[Walking Boot of Doom]

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Interesting look at past winners sos

Makes that 2013 B1G Title that much more impressive. As the best team in the country, not having themselves on the schedule hurts their SOS, yet they still had the 6th hardest.

[Walking Boot of Doom]

It makes sense. Winning the conference means you can't play the team with the most wins to boost your SOS. Why isn't little bro on that graphic?

To an extent. This is extreme. The correlation between the weakest schedule and B1G Titles is too high. 

[Brass Cannon]

To an extent. This is extreme. The correlation between the weakest schedule and B1G Titles is too high. 

 

Well it just means that there are very many good teams each year, so a good team with an easier schedule will benefit from that versus a good team with a tough schedule(Except us in 2013).

 

And until a few years ago the schedules were probably very similar so the range of SOS was limited.  Any little edge would give a team the edge. Before Nebraska we played 8 of the 10 teams twice.  Not much chance for variability in that its gonna balance out alot better than the current 5 of 13 model.  But playing 8 of 10 teams twice, but not being able to play the team with the best record twice is going to help drive that SOS.

 

I'd be interested in seeing SoS numbers for other conference, except the Big 12 after all thats just a giant joke. 

[biteoftheapple]

Here you can find the ACC sos:

http://www.playoffstatus.com/accbasketball/accsosag.html

[biteoftheapple]

Pac 12;

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_pac12_Men.html

[biteoftheapple]

Big East;

https://tomcous.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/big-east-conference-rpi-sos-ratings-analysis/

[X-Hoosier]

Well it just means that there are very many good teams each year, so a good team with an easier schedule will benefit from that versus a good team with a tough schedule(Except us in 2013).

And until a few years ago the schedules were probably very similar so the range of SOS was limited. Any little edge would give a team the edge. Before Nebraska we played 8 of the 10 teams twice. Not much chance for variability in that its gonna balance out alot better than the current 5 of 13 model. But playing 8 of 10 teams twice, but not being able to play the team with the best record twice is going to help drive that SOS.

I'd be interested in seeing SoS numbers for other conference, except the Big 12 after all thats just a giant joke.

Wait... how is the Big 12 a joke?

[Brass Cannon]

With how good MSU looks to be next year we could see another team do what we did in 2013 if they have the opportunity and play good enough schedule. 

 

The 5 of 13 model we are using now is allowing for more variability so we may see that more often.  The further we get from a true round robin the more variability that is allowed for

[drock161]

Just saw this tweet. Minny left with 5 scholarship players. Does Rutgers come out with its first Big Ten victory Saturday?

 

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[coonhounds]

Iu having a easy schedule is crap. All the teams we beat dropped the ball and we didn't. You can't lose 3 or 4 games in a row and expect to win. We took care of home court and won some big road games also.