College Bball Thread

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

36 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Video of ten block or charge calls.  What do you have? (mine are below)

1.  block

2. block

3.  charge

4. charge

5.  block

6.  neither....that's a no call

7.  charge

8.  block

9.  block (although technical a pushing foul)

10.  block

1. Block

2. No Call

3. Charge

4. No call

5. No call

6. Block

7. No call

8. No call

9. No call

10. Block

[Hovadipo]

32 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Video of ten block or charge calls.  What do you have? (mine are below)

1.  block

2. block

3.  charge

4. charge

5.  block

6.  neither....that's a no call

7.  charge

8.  block

9.  block (although technical a pushing foul)

10.  block

I’ll be honest, I have mostly blocks (or flops) there, but 6 is my issue with the rule in one play. The dude isn’t playing defense. He’s gaming the system and it almost got himself and the offensive player hurt. He catches himself out of position and just stops in the shooter’s landing area. He also established his position after the shooter began his gather. If not for the current interpretation of the charge/block rule, I’m not sure doing that ever comes across the defender’s mind.

I want defenders to play defense, not try to trick the refs into thinking they’re getting run over. It isn’t “taking one for the team” like the Wisconsin’s of the world get their rocks off to, it’s dangerous and it isn’t basketball. A lot of times, I’m not sure how a guy taking a charge is any different than undercutting on a rebound or outright tripping someone. I do understand that there are plays where an offensive player lowers a shoulder and just blows through someone going to the basket, I just think the defender is given the benefit of the doubt wayyyyy too often.

I’m more concerned with the bang-bang plays at the basket than anything, btw. I think charge/player control fouls are relatively reasonably called around the perimeter. 

[HoosierAloha]

20 minutes ago, cthomas said:

We can speculate all we want, but the results are the results. I thought IU should have won a national championship in '75 if not for Scott May's broken arm. But IU didn't and the result was a loss to Kentucky. Revisionist thinking does no one any good.

It wasn't mandatory for you to participate but it seems you enjoyed speculating for a moment of what could have been in '75.

Good and great wins against UNC and at Xavier, respectfully. I can see that. I can also see where they are and where we are currently. Happy we have those on our resume. We might end up really needing them on Selection Sunday.

[Uspshoosier]

9 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

It wasn't mandatory for you to participate but it seems you enjoyed speculating for a moment of what could have been in '75.

Good and great wins against UNC and at Xavier, respectfully. I can see that. I can also see where they are and where we are currently. Happy we have those on our resume. We might end up really needing them on Selection Sunday.

Always need them come selection Sunday.   Quality non conference wins.     Probably go through a ton of teams and say they caught so and so at the right time glad we played them when we did.   Season is long 

[cthomas]

3 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

It wasn't mandatory for you to participate but it seems you enjoyed speculating for a moment of what could have been in '75.

Good and great wins against UNC and at Xavier, respectfully. I can see that. I can also see where they are and where we are currently. Happy we have those on our resume. We might end up really needing them on Selection Sunday.

My point was what might have been was irrelevant to what actually happened. Timing means a lot in all things. It has shaped my life for sure. This team as currently constructed has a lower ceiling than the one that started the season. Our opponents going forward won't care who is missing from our lineup. We will win or lose with who we have. The record book won't care about anything else. Yes, I thought the '75 team was national championship good before the May injury. But the injury happened and IU was not good enough to overcome it. That was the reality and I can accept that. This season will play however it does with who we have available as will every other teams. If this was a closed or by invitation only thread, then I apologize for inserting my thoughts into it.

[Uspshoosier]

6 minutes ago, cthomas said:

My point was what might have been was irrelevant to what actually happened. Timing means a lot in all things. It has shaped my life for sure. This team as currently constructed has a lower ceiling than the one that started the season. Our opponents going forward won't care who is missing from our lineup. We will win or lose with who we have. The record book won't care about anything else. Yes, I thought the '75 team was national championship good before the May injury. But the injury happened and IU was not good enough to overcome it. That was the reality and I can accept that. This season will play however it does with who we have available as will every other teams. If this was a closed or by invitation only thread, then I apologize for inserting my thoughts into it.

College basketball thread is for everyone that loves college basketball  anytime of the day to talk about the greatest sport on the planet.  

[Uspshoosier]

Blackmon saved the game for Stetson on the defensive end to stop a driver to the basketball.  That stop forced OT where Stetson is up 7.   

[Muskie for three]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

Blackmon saved the game for Stetson on the defensive end to stop a driver to the basketball.  That stop forced OT where Stetson is up 7.   

That maybe a first . The blackmon name and defensive stop no matter which generation .

[HoosierAloha]

3 minutes ago, cthomas said:

My point was what might have been was irrelevant to what actually happened. Timing means a lot in all things. It has shaped my life for sure. This team as currently constructed has a lower ceiling than the one that started the season. Our opponents going forward won't care who is missing from our lineup. We will win or lose with who we have. The record book won't care about anything else. Yes, I thought the '75 team was national championship good before the May injury. But the injury happened and IU was not good enough to overcome it. That was the reality and I can accept that. This season will play however it does with who we have available as will every other teams. If this was a closed or by invitation only thread, then I apologize for inserting my thoughts into it.

My point was I'm glad we got those wins to add to our resume. To elaborate, I don't think we beat them if we meet them again this season. I personally don't care what our opponents or their fans think. I care how we look and perform as a team this season.

Would have been nice to have back-to-back undefeated teams, although having one loss and a natty across two seasons is pretty awesome too.

It's a public forum and anyone can participate. It appeared by your initial post you didn't want to partake in the revisionist thinking but after a second post it seems you do?

[Uspshoosier]

3 minutes ago, Muskie for three said:

That maybe a first . The blackmon name and defensive stop no matter which generation .

Blackmon and Brown show tonight for Stetson 

Blackmon has 29 and Brown has 24 

[Muskie for three]

5 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Blackmon and Brown show tonight for Stetson 

Blackmon has 29 and Brown has 24 

Couple of Indiana kids playing well in Florida at the right level of play . At least for now . Lllb.

Edited January 8, 2023 by Muskie for three

[Uspshoosier]

MWC after dark.    New Mexico/Unlv 

cbssport network.   New Mexico up 2 in the first half 

[Uspshoosier]

Arkansas lost 

 

[Hovadipo]

Santa Clara giving the Zags the business early on. 

[Uspshoosier]

1 minute ago, Hovadipo said:

Santa Clara giving the Zags the business early on. 

https://watchstadium.com/live/gonzaga-at-santa-clara-15/

[cthomas]

4 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

My point was I'm glad we got those wins to add to our resume. To elaborate, I don't think we beat them if we meet them again this season. I personally don't care what our opponents or their fans think. I care how we look and perform as a team this season.

Would have been nice to have back-to-back undefeated teams, although having one loss and a natty across two seasons is pretty awesome too.

It's a public forum and anyone can participate. It appeared by your initial post you didn't want to partake in the revisionist thinking but after a second post it seems you do?

No I don't. I don't know how to make that any more clear. We are who we are at any point in time. We are who the record says we are. I can speculate, as can anyone, about what might have been but it has nothing to do with reality. I am willing to admit that even without the May injury that team may not have won the title. We will never know because that was not reality. IU will win or lose with who they put on the court as will every other team. How you evaluate the product on the floor is your viewpoint and you are certainly entitled to it. Doesn't mean it is right or wrong. Others might look at it from a different, but still as valid, point of view. We are all here because we are interested to some degree. I enjoy the variety of points of view and can kind of see the different levels of investment.

[Uspshoosier]

Scoop and score    Wrong thread 

[johnsoniu]

3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Scoop and score    Wrong thread 

Whoa, the nfl made it one of the TVs? lol

[Uspshoosier]

Just now, johnsoniu said:

Whoa, the nfl made it one of the TVs? lol

Biggest upset of the night 

[IU/Butler/Notre Dame]

9 hours ago, Rico said:

If...and I mean IF the 'Cats win this game then Rupp Rafters won't be any fun to read tonight.

You would risk all the computer viruses you’ll get going there ?!?