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Question:

End of regulation the missed Virginia free throw is tipped into the backcourt by a Virginia player and then retrieved by a different Virginia player. Should that have been called over and back?

Doesn’t Virginia have possession by virtue of being on offense and shooting the free throw and no one but the Virginia player touched the ball when it was swatted into the back court? I know you can inbounds the ball into the backcourt, but this is different. If the ball had been tipped by a Purdue player I think that makes a difference because that would be a deflection and the ensuing Virginia tip might not be considered a controlled possession...but with the ball only being touched on the miss by the Virginia player it seems like it could be over and back to me. Very curious what the actual rule is on this and if anyone can provide a certain explanation. Good call...or missed call?


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People were saying this preseason. Agreed that he shot them out of games during the season.

This kid just had an insane tournament. I think our fan base really did not take Purdue and Edwards seriously all year, and we almost just had to witness him carry the squad to a Final Four.


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I even expected Edwards to have a game tonight where he shot Purdue out of it. The kid is good.


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Question:

End of regulation the missed Virginia free throw is tipped into the backcourt by a Virginia player and then retrieved by a different Virginia player. Should that have been called over and back?

Doesn’t Virginia have possession by virtue of being on offense and shooting the free throw and no one but the Virginia player touched the ball when it was swatted into the back court? I know you can inbounds the ball into the backcourt, but this is different. If the ball had been tipped by a Purdue player I think that makes a difference because that would be a deflection and the ensuing Virginia tip might not be considered a controlled possession...but with the ball only being touched on the miss by the Virginia player it seems like it could be over and back to me. Very curious what the actual rule is on this and if anyone can provide a certain explanation. Good call...or missed call?


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Kellogg just discussed that. It was a loose ball situation even with the tip


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Question:

End of regulation the missed Virginia free throw is tipped into the backcourt by a Virginia player and then retrieved by a different Virginia player. Should that have been called over and back?

Doesn’t Virginia have possession by virtue of being on offense and shooting the free throw and no one but the Virginia player touched the ball when it was swatted into the back court? I know you can inbounds the ball into the backcourt, but this is different. If the ball had been tipped by a Purdue player I think that makes a difference because that would be a deflection and the ensuing Virginia tip might not be considered a controlled possession...but with the ball only being touched on the miss by the Virginia player it seems like it could be over and back to me. Very curious what the actual rule is on this and if anyone can provide a certain explanation. Good call...or missed call?


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A team is allowed to do it. Not sure the exact reasoning behind it. Just one of those rules in basketball.


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5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Interesting to watch teams advance that have a guy or two on their roster that can get so unconsciously hot they can carry a team in a high level tourney game.

IUBB currently has one guy who is wired like that and it’s not Romeo. Y’all know who that is; DGreen.

 

Which is exactly why Green needs to be our shooter. Give him the ball to either shoot a 3 or shoot the floater. 

Should not be a ball handler.

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20 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

I’d stand by the Edwards part of that;; Edwards was under 40% fg and had more tos than assists in B1G play.

However; Edwards WAS most certainly on his way to being the MVP of the whole freakin NCAA tourney.

 

I don't have a problem with either Edwards or Winston being Big 10 MVPs.  One thing I will say is that eFG is more important than straight field percentage.....especially for guys taking over half of their shots as threes.  Edwards was at about 48% by that measure, not great but certainly more than livable for a volume shooter.  The one thing that sticks out for me is that Purdue's offensive efficiency was 5th in the nation with really only one guy that was good at getting his own shot.

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Interesting to watch teams advance that have a guy or two on their roster that can get so unconsciously hot they can carry a team in a high level tourney game.
IUBB currently has one guy who is wired like that and it’s not Romeo. Y’all know who that is; DGreen.
 

Unfortunately he’s even more prone to cold streaks and never gets as hot as what we just witnessed.

You’re totally right though.


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7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Interesting to watch teams advance that have a guy or two on their roster that can get so unconsciously hot they can carry a team in a high level tourney game.

IUBB currently has one guy who is wired like that and it’s not Romeo. Y’all know who that is; DGreen.

 

Some guys simply want to be 'the guy'.  It's why it was frustrating to me the amount of criticism that Green took.  You HAVE to have guys like that on a team.  Can't have a team full of them but you need a couple of them.

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1 minute ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:


Unfortunately he’s even more prone to cold streaks and never gets as hot as what we just witnessed.

You’re totally right though.


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The DeVonte Green I saw in March as our SG playing alongside Phinisee was pretty damn consistently dynamic- right about at the level of some of the guys on the big stage this week.

 

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3 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:


Unfortunately he’s even more prone to cold streaks and never gets as hot as what we just witnessed.

You’re totally right though.


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IDK that shooting against OSU was fantastic. And once Phinisee came back healthy his shooting was consistently decent not truly horrid any single game. 

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3 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:


Unfortunately he’s even more prone to cold streaks and never gets as hot as what we just witnessed.

You’re totally right though.


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I do wish that DeVonte would try the blow by more often and less of the flop shots when he gets toward the rim.  I'd love to see Carson's shot chart.....I'm sure almost all of his makes were threes or layups.  Simply put, he doesn't have many 5 to 15 foot shots.

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Absolutely on both counts- I was arguing in Nov that PU would be mid-level B1G and a probably not make the tourney.  I was wrong. I don't think Painter is an elite coach, but did a great job with this group. Pretty sure after Edwards leaves (hopefully now) they'll fall back to mediocrity, but they do have some pieces. 

Brandon Newman will eventually be a player we won’t be happy we missed/didn’t take.

Yeah, losing Cline and Edwards will set them back for sure.


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3 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

IDK that shooting against OSU was fantastic. And once Phinisee came back healthy his shooting was consistently decent not truly horrid any single game. 

That six game string from Michigan State through Arkansas he was 33 of 61 from the floor overall and 21 of 38 from three.  Also averaged 4 rebounds and a 2 to 1 assist to turnover ratio.  Considering how stagnant our offense was at times, there are worse things that letting him go one-on-one occasionally for good or bad.

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1 minute ago, brumdog45 said:

That six game string from Michigan State through Arkansas he was 33 of 61 from the floor overall and 21 of 38 from three.  Also averaged 4 rebounds and a 2 to 1 assist to turnover ratio.  Considering how stagnant our offense was at times, there are worse things that letting him go one-on-one occasionally for good or bad.

 

Wow. I was just singing his praises but I didn’t know he was THAT good in March.

 

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