College Bball Thread

[Uspshoosier]

But MWC on CBSSports just got interesting
back to back TO by San Diego St just gave Fresno St the lead with 20 sec to go


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[HoosierAloha]

But MWC on CBSSports just got interesting
back to back TO by San Diego St just gave Fresno St the lead with 20 sec to go


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Not sure how you call that foul


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[Uspshoosier]

Not sure how you call that foul


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Terrible call. Did you read the lips of the Fresno St coach. Called that ref a stupid mother ....... lol


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[Deserthoozier]

4 hours ago, TXHoosierDaddy said:

Exactly. They turn the ball over so much. Recipe for disaster. 

Old coaching habits die hard.

[Deserthoozier]

33 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Terrible call. Did you read the lips of the Fresno St coach. Called that ref a stupid mother ....... lol


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West Coast!

[LIHoosier]

8 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

I’ve had them out for a couple weeks. Looks like a home loss will have more projected brackets having them out. They have the worst non-conference schedule. I mean the 353 out of 353 ranked non conf SOS
They now have 3 Quad 3 losses
Only Quad 1 wins are home against Auburn and neutral against Penn State. Big difference in the Rpi (112) and Net(31). In any metric there are always outliers in the system. They are definitely one in the NET rankings.


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When you play a lot of cupcakes, your off/def efficiencies tend to be really good; even when they're supposed to be weighted based on quality of opponent.

[Uspshoosier]

When you play a lot of cupcakes, your off/def efficiencies tend to be really good; even when they're supposed to be weighted based on quality of opponent.

Yep they will have to address that next year. They cap scoring margin at 10 for the scoring margin category of the NET but leave it uncapped in the offensive/defensive efficiency category. That has been the main concern for people who follow the numbers closely. Nc state played 8 home games against teams 214 and higher(6 of those against teams 300 or higher)


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[Brass Cannon]

I get why they capped it at 10. Often times closes games scores become less close as teams try desperation strategies at the end that change the score. And vice versa blowouts get closer as teams play walk ons. 

Almost wonder if the way to do that is to look at the score at 2 points in the game. Maybe 3 minutes before the end and the end. 

[Uspshoosier]

I get why they capped it at 10. Often times closes games scores become less close as teams try desperation strategies at the end that change the score. And vice versa blowouts get closer as teams play walk ons. 
Almost wonder if the way to do that is to look at the score at 2 points in the game. Maybe 3 minutes before the end and the end. 

I have no problem capping it at 10 as long as you cap the other categories at 10 as well. And since it’s not capped at 10 in off/def efficiency teams would be better to run up the score and be as efficient as possible even with it capped in scoring margin


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[HoosierAloha]

I get why they capped it at 10. Often times closes games scores become less close as teams try desperation strategies at the end that change the score. And vice versa blowouts get closer as teams play walk ons. 
Almost wonder if the way to do that is to look at the score at 2 points in the game. Maybe 3 minutes before the end and the end. 

Maybe try to bury it in one of their secret formulas!


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[yogisballin]

And Murray State is in the same conference as I think Belmont who is also really good. One gets in. Same with Furman. Lipscomb also really good and only one will get in there. St Mary's needs Gonzaga to break a leg. They dont' look like they are even close to the same level to be able to beat them on a neutral court in the conference tourney. 
 It would be great if Washington wins the Pac-12 tourney because no other team in that conference deserves a berth and that would take away from one team. If Buffalo or Wofford loses their conference tourney, they will like get two teams in from those conferences since both are considered to be at-large berths regardless of winning their tournaments. 
IU gets to the semi's of the BTT, would be feeling very good assuming they win these next two. 

I think Murray St will get in regardless. They’ll want Morant in the tourney for people to come see


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[Uspshoosier]

I think Murray St will get in regardless. They’ll want Morant in the tourney for people to come see


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I don’t see anyway Murray St gets in if they lose in their conference tournament
22 wins against teams 133 or lower
Best wins is at 133 Austin Peay
0 top 100 wins
SOS-258


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[LamarCheeks]

I'm curious if anybody knows the back story or has insight into our coaching search after Sampson was cut loose. I only know from what I've discovered on the internet. I've read that we made overtures to Tony Bennett, but according to what I've seen, he wasn't interested in coaching at a program that's as nuts as ours -- so to speak. He just wanted to coach and recruit, without having to put up with all the other B.S.(speaking engagements, over-the-top fan base, etc.)  But I have to think the fact that we fired his sister didn't help matters. ... Anyway, the reason I bring this up is I've seen some Bennett-to-UCLA speculation. And if he didn't want all the B.S. that goes with a program like IU, I cannot imagine he would be interested in Westwood. 

[Uspshoosier]

I'm curious if anybody knows the back story or has insight into our coaching search after Sampson was cut loose. I only know from what I've discovered on the internet. I've read that we made overtures to Tony Bennett, but according to what I've seen, he wasn't interested in coaching at a program that's as nuts as ours -- so to speak. He just wanted to coach and recruit, without having to put up with all the other B.S.(speaking engagements, over-the-top fan base, etc.)  But I have to think the fact that we fired his sister didn't help matters. ... Anyway, the reason I bring this up is I've seen some Bennett-to-UCLA speculation. And if he didn't want all the B.S. that goes with a program like IU, I cannot imagine he would be interested in Westwood. 

firing his sister as the women’s coach probably had more to do with Bennett not ending up at IU then anything


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[TXHoosierDaddy]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

I don’t see anyway Murray St gets in if they lose in their conference tournament
22 wins against teams 133 or lower
Best wins is at 133 Austin Peay
0 top 100 wins
SOS-258


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Agree. The NCAA committee never gives automatic births to mid-major schools. Even if they are on the bubble, past history shows they award power 5 team with that has the better overall wins and SOS (ala Syracuse almost every year). The fact that Buffalo and Wofford are positioned to get automatic births is rare. Unless something drastic has changed in thinking I would say the chance Murray State gets one is less than 10% even with a lottery pick to boot. 

[Str8Hoosiers]

8 minutes ago, TXHoosierDaddy said:

Agree. The NCAA committee never gives automatic births to mid-major schools. Even if they are on the bubble, past history shows they award power 5 team with that has the better overall wins and SOS (ala Syracuse almost every year). The fact that Buffalo and Wofford are positioned to get automatic births is rare. Unless something drastic has changed in thinking I would say the chance Murray State gets one is less than 10% even with a lottery pick to boot. 

The way it should be.

[HoosierFan1994]

2 hours ago, yogisballin said:

I think Murray St will get in regardless. They’ll want Morant in the tourney for people to come see


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Remember, the NCAA kept Davidson out in 2009 with Curry. They will keep Morant and Murray out too. 

[Str8Hoosiers]

2 minutes ago, Joe DeLow said:

I doubt the field was this terrible in 2009.


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People say the field is terrible EVERY year... no matter what that is always the discussion... because 99% of the time the last teams in (even the last 15-20 At Large teams) don't have a realistic shot at winning it all.

In 2009 Wisconsin & Arizona made it with 19 wins while Michigan & Maryland made it with 20.

For Mid-Majors Dayton & Butler both made it with 26 wins.

All 6 of those resumes were much better than Murray State's this year. If they don't win their tournament they are not in, don't deserve to be, no matter 1 player, no matter some random eye test... every team has the option to schedule games (and then win them) to make them a legit At-Large team and they did not do so.

[Uspshoosier]

Eye test. If that were the case, Nevada wouldn’t be getting in off resume either. People just know how good they are.


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Yes they would. They are top 20 in Net.
1-1 in Quad 1
7-1 in Quad 2
Their resume is definitely at-large worthy


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[Uspshoosier]

Not where the committee is going to put them which is likely a Top 4 seed. And depending on how they finish the year, could be a top 3 seed.


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You said they wouldn’t get in on resume that people just know how good they are. I just showed you they would get in on their resume which they would. Who cares where the committee ends up putting them. What does that have to do with the comparison between Murray getting an at-large. Pretty simple Murray St isn’t getting an at large because their resume is garbage. Nevada will get in because they would of earned it with a worthy resume.


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