College Bball Thread

[Hardwood83 4,774]

48 minutes ago, hoosierbgh said:

Did they even add at least one good guard?

Have they learned to play really good defense?

Is their biggest/only real offensive threat no longer a significant liability on defense?

The Purdue is UVA narrative is so lazy and uninformed. 

I always underestimate Purdoo, so am not a reliable source, still it's hard not to see the recipe for success vs them is "make the guards beat you."  

They definitely have some players and might be better than last year- but they do not seem like a team built for NCAA success.  As others pointed out, they also had a lot of benefits last season that are unlikely to repeat. Edey breaks his foot in Dec and they might be an 8 seed. 

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https://x.com/JonRothstein/status/1702476004172689444?s=20

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3 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

 

My dad had an aortic aneurysm repaired. That is an extremely dangerous thing to have. If that aneurysm had gone unaddressed he would have been in mortal danger.

Godspeed to Coach Howard - a successful operation can lead to a 'good-as-new' recovery.

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21 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

https://x.com/JonRothstein/status/1702476004172689444?s=20

That looks a really good set of games....and also Yale v Gonzaga.

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1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

My dad had an aortic aneurysm repaired. That is an extremely dangerous thing to have. If that aneurysm had gone unaddressed he would have been in mortal danger.

Godspeed to Coach Howard - a successful operation can lead to a 'good-as-new' recovery.

I hope he recovers by next May 24'.

Maybe the last 20+ yrs IU Gremlin bites meatchicken. i would be soooooo devastated. 

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3 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

My dad had an aortic aneurysm repaired. That is an extremely dangerous thing to have. If that aneurysm had gone unaddressed he would have been in mortal danger.

Godspeed to Coach Howard - a successful operation can lead to a 'good-as-new' recovery.

He’ll be b!tch-slappin Greg Gard again in no time.

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Kansas City Star --

Kansas men’s basketball guard Arterio Morris has been suspended from the KU program following a rape accusation that was reported to the University of Kansas Police Department. Morris is not named in the incident report, but a KU Athletics official told The Star he “has been suspended from the program and we have no further comment.” A second source confirmed an allegation had been made against Morris. According to logs from the KU police department, a rape was reported at the 1700 block of Naismith Drive in late-August. The police incident report confirmed the location as McCarthy Hall, which houses the KU men’s basketball players among around 40 male residents and is located just south of Allen Fieldhouse. KU men’s basketball players Johnny Furphy and Elmarko Jackson are listed on the incident report as witnesses. KU basketball’s Nick Timberlake is also listed, under “other.” A witness can be someone who “saw or heard the crime take place or may have important information about the crime or the defendant,” according to a U.S. Department of Justice definition. A source with knowledge of the situation said the men’s basketball players listed as witnesses or “other” on the incident report were interviewed after the fact and “not involved in the incident at all. They are not under investigation or anything like that remotely.” Two additional witnesses who are not men’s basketball players are also listed. A witness listing does not necessarily mean that person was present when an alleged crime was committed. The victim noted on the incident report is an 18-year-old Missouri woman, listed at 5-foot-3, 107 pounds. The alleged incident occurred between 4:30 and 5:30 a.m. on Aug. 26 and was reported at around 9:50 p.m. on Aug. 27, according to the incident report. Morris’ agent, Chris Gaston, declined comment on Friday. On Thursday, Gaston had expressed concerns about how an allegation against Morris might be portrayed through media coverage. Morris’ mentor, Juan Rivera, also declined comment Friday. Attempts to reach Morris through Gaston and Rivera were unsuccessful. A KU spokesperson told The Star that Kansas coach Bill Self and KU athletic director Travis Goff had no comment. Self reiterated that via a text message to The Star on Friday. On Tuesday, Sept. 12, more than two weeks after the alleged incident occurred, a listing for the alleged rape was uploaded to an online crime-report database. The Star made multiple requests for the incident report from KU police on Tuesday before filing a Kansas Open Records Act (KORA) request, which was fulfilled by KU on Friday. Three days is the maximum amount of time allowed to respond to such a request. The case is still open, and Morris hasn’t been arrested, nor has a warrant been issued for his arrest. The Douglas County District Attorney’s office told The Star on Thursday: “At this time, this case has not been presented to our office for charging consideration.” This is not the first potential legal incident for Morris, who transferred to Kansas after one season at the University of Texas. Morris averaged 4.7 points and 1.4 rebounds in 11.8 minutes per game at his former school. Morris received a Class A misdemeanor assault charge from an alleged June 2022 confrontation in Frisco, Texas. Morris was set to appear for a jury trial on Oct. 2, but the trial was canceled Thursday when he entered a nolo contendere (no contest) plea to a Class C charge and was ordered to pay a fine of $362. According to Frisco police, as outlined in an AP story shared on ESPN.com, “Morris was arrested after officers were called to the ex-girlfriend’s house. She told police she and Morris had broken up the day before and that a relative who didn’t know about the breakup let him inside. “The woman told police Morris grabbed her arm and pulled her off a bed, then grabbed the front of her sports bra, which she said caused (an) injury on her neck. “Police reported seeing a 3-inch abrasion on the woman’s neck and arrested Morris on a charge of assault causing injury to a family member, which includes dating relationships in Texas.” On June 24 of this year, the alleged victim in that case filed an affidavit of non-prosecution and requested that charges be dismissed. The Denton County District Attorney’s Office had previously told The Star it would continue to pursue charges. Morris was not suspended last season — he practiced and played in games for Texas for the entire 2022-23 season. In May, shortly after announcing Morris’ addition to the KU men’s basketball team, Self issued a statement about Morris’ court case in Texas. “We are aware of the charge that Arterio is facing in the State of Texas,” the statement read. “In addition to working with our athletic department and campus administrators, we have also spoken at length with Arterio, his family, his former institution’s University Student Affairs office and his former institution’s Department of Athletics Compliance and Administration. “Based on these discussions, we are comfortable welcoming Arterio to the University of Kansas and he is well aware of the high standards and expectations that come with being a member of the Kansas Men’s Basketball program. We fully expect him to meet those daily.” Self had raved about Morris’ play since he arrived on campus in Lawrence. “Arterio was highly recruited coming out of high school and we watched him a ton his senior year at Kimball (High),” Self said in a release back in May. “When he entered the portal, we went right after him. Arterio is one of the most talented guards in the country who hasn’t scratched the surface of his potential.”

The Star’s Gary Bedore contributed to this report.

Read more at: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article279252244.html#storylink=cpy

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Kansas City Star --
Kansas men’s basketball guard Arterio Morris has been suspended from the KU program following a rape accusation that was reported to the University of Kansas Police Department. Morris is not named in the incident report, but a KU Athletics official told The Star he “has been suspended from the program and we have no further comment.” A second source confirmed an allegation had been made against Morris. According to logs from the KU police department, a rape was reported at the 1700 block of Naismith Drive in late-August. The police incident report confirmed the location as McCarthy Hall, which houses the KU men’s basketball players among around 40 male residents and is located just south of Allen Fieldhouse. KU men’s basketball players Johnny Furphy and Elmarko Jackson are listed on the incident report as witnesses. KU basketball’s Nick Timberlake is also listed, under “other.” A witness can be someone who “saw or heard the crime take place or may have important information about the crime or the defendant,” according to a U.S. Department of Justice definition. A source with knowledge of the situation said the men’s basketball players listed as witnesses or “other” on the incident report were interviewed after the fact and “not involved in the incident at all. They are not under investigation or anything like that remotely.” Two additional witnesses who are not men’s basketball players are also listed. A witness listing does not necessarily mean that person was present when an alleged crime was committed. The victim noted on the incident report is an 18-year-old Missouri woman, listed at 5-foot-3, 107 pounds. The alleged incident occurred between 4:30 and 5:30 a.m. on Aug. 26 and was reported at around 9:50 p.m. on Aug. 27, according to the incident report. Morris’ agent, Chris Gaston, declined comment on Friday. On Thursday, Gaston had expressed concerns about how an allegation against Morris might be portrayed through media coverage. Morris’ mentor, Juan Rivera, also declined comment Friday. Attempts to reach Morris through Gaston and Rivera were unsuccessful. A KU spokesperson told The Star that Kansas coach Bill Self and KU athletic director Travis Goff had no comment. Self reiterated that via a text message to The Star on Friday. On Tuesday, Sept. 12, more than two weeks after the alleged incident occurred, a listing for the alleged rape was uploaded to an online crime-report database. The Star made multiple requests for the incident report from KU police on Tuesday before filing a Kansas Open Records Act (KORA) request, which was fulfilled by KU on Friday. Three days is the maximum amount of time allowed to respond to such a request. The case is still open, and Morris hasn’t been arrested, nor has a warrant been issued for his arrest. The Douglas County District Attorney’s office told The Star on Thursday: “At this time, this case has not been presented to our office for charging consideration.” This is not the first potential legal incident for Morris, who transferred to Kansas after one season at the University of Texas. Morris averaged 4.7 points and 1.4 rebounds in 11.8 minutes per game at his former school. Morris received a Class A misdemeanor assault charge from an alleged June 2022 confrontation in Frisco, Texas. Morris was set to appear for a jury trial on Oct. 2, but the trial was canceled Thursday when he entered a nolo contendere (no contest) plea to a Class C charge and was ordered to pay a fine of $362. According to Frisco police, as outlined in an AP story shared on ESPN.com, “Morris was arrested after officers were called to the ex-girlfriend’s house. She told police she and Morris had broken up the day before and that a relative who didn’t know about the breakup let him inside. “The woman told police Morris grabbed her arm and pulled her off a bed, then grabbed the front of her sports bra, which she said caused (an) injury on her neck. “Police reported seeing a 3-inch abrasion on the woman’s neck and arrested Morris on a charge of assault causing injury to a family member, which includes dating relationships in Texas.” On June 24 of this year, the alleged victim in that case filed an affidavit of non-prosecution and requested that charges be dismissed. The Denton County District Attorney’s Office had previously told The Star it would continue to pursue charges. Morris was not suspended last season — he practiced and played in games for Texas for the entire 2022-23 season. In May, shortly after announcing Morris’ addition to the KU men’s basketball team, Self issued a statement about Morris’ court case in Texas. “We are aware of the charge that Arterio is facing in the State of Texas,” the statement read. “In addition to working with our athletic department and campus administrators, we have also spoken at length with Arterio, his family, his former institution’s University Student Affairs office and his former institution’s Department of Athletics Compliance and Administration. “Based on these discussions, we are comfortable welcoming Arterio to the University of Kansas and he is well aware of the high standards and expectations that come with being a member of the Kansas Men’s Basketball program. We fully expect him to meet those daily.” Self had raved about Morris’ play since he arrived on campus in Lawrence. “Arterio was highly recruited coming out of high school and we watched him a ton his senior year at Kimball (High),” Self said in a release back in May. “When he entered the portal, we went right after him. Arterio is one of the most talented guards in the country who hasn’t scratched the surface of his potential.”
The Star’s Gary Bedore contributed to this report.
Read more at: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article279252244.html#storylink=cpy

IUBB culture >>>>>>>>>>> Kansas basketball culture.

When you have a sleaze ball, no morals having, “gangster” coach nothing should surprise.

I really dislike Self. It has some to do with winning but moreover it’s that he wins mostly due to cheating his @$$ off and has never really faced any repercussions for his lifetime of actions.


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19 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

IUBB culture >>>>>>>>>>> Kansas basketball culture.

When you have a sleaze ball, no morals having, “gangster” coach nothing should surprise.

I really dislike Self. It has some to do with winning but moreover it’s that he wins mostly due to cheating his @$$ off and has never really faced any repercussions for his lifetime of actions.


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Guarantee Kansas fans are making every excuse imaginable about how they are out for Kansas lol.

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On 8/14/2023 at 2:04 PM, Uspshoosier said:

 

 

Would never wish ill on a kid, but this feels like it could easily end not great for Flowers. Like, in about 10 yrs we’ll be reading 1 of those “Whatever happened to….” cautionary tales articles about him playing in Borneo and it being something like his 10th country in 10 yrs. Hope he figures it out. To be fair, that is a tough league and he is a re-class.

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2 hours ago, Demo said:

Would never wish ill on a kid, but this feels like it could easily end not great for Flowers. Like, in about 10 yrs we’ll be reading 1 of those “Whatever happened to….” cautionary tales articles about him playing in Borneo and it being something like his 10th country in 10 yrs. Hope he figures it out. To be fair, that is a tough league and he is a re-class.

I doubt he has the mental toughness required to succeed at higher levels of basketball so I think you're prediction is correct.

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2 hours ago, Demo said:

Would never wish ill on a kid, but this feels like it could easily end not great for Flowers. Like, in about 10 yrs we’ll be reading 1 of those “Whatever happened to….” cautionary tales articles about him playing in Borneo and it being something like his 10th country in 10 yrs. Hope he figures it out. To be fair, that is a tough league and he is a re-class.

Agree, just a really tough watch.  NBL is high-level basketball, and he clearly isn't ready.  The first red flag for me with Flowers was the multitude of HS's attended - four in four years, never a good sign.

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Can’t quite put my finger on why, but I just have this queasy feeling that this list may not be worth taking all that seriously when it comes out.

[HoosierFan1994 4,754]

The Almanac came out this morning. I think it's a must for all big college basketball fans. I don't always agree with everything on it. However, they have previews for every team, conference picks, and rankings for the top players, transfer, freshman, etc. They are high on Mackenzie. They have him as the #3 Freshman to watch this year. Overall they aren't as high on IU, like the rest of the media. They have them as a 9 seed. 

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Great player. The Calbert Cheaney of Rutgers basketball. Lost to Michigan in the Final Four the year IU went undefeated. 

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On 9/18/2023 at 1:10 PM, Demo said:

Can’t quite put my finger on why, but I just have this queasy feeling that this list may not be worth taking all that seriously when it comes out.

I don't believe there are 95 players better than Antonio Reeves.

[Hardwood83 4,774]

1 hour ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

The Almanac came out this morning. I think it's a must for all big college basketball fans. I don't always agree with everything on it. However, they have previews for every team, conference picks, and rankings for the top players, transfer, freshman, etc. They are high on Mackenzie. They have him as the #3 Freshman to watch this year. Overall they aren't as high on IU, like the rest of the media. They have them as a 9 seed. 

I think that is reasonable though. A lot of new &/or unproven players = skepticism. IU has talent, now they have to prove that translates to wins. Mich State is in a similar situation, but Izzo's history of covering for sexual predators, I mean success,  gives him the benefit of a doubt.