College Bball Thread

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,003]

i agree I dislike the program and coach but as a college basketball nut couldnt hate a kid like ulis or even towns. Those 2 kids in my opinion play their butts off anytime they were on the court. You know if cal would of gotten mudiey a couple years ago ulis would of been a spartan

loved Towns. Special player. And Anthony Davis. Just hate they likely came with bags of cash. Otherwise seem like good guys and fantastic basketball players.

[Uspshoosier 51,113]

Imagine this MSU team with Swanigan like originally planned

or ulis ( if cal would of landed mudiay, ulis would of been a spartan

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,003]

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It's easy to say that after the fact. I bet you were all about the movement....

Mistakes happen to every single coach. It sucks. But a couple guys don't pan out, one guy gets homesick, and there you have it when you are not recruiting the same players as the powers. It takes time.

Look at Costello. Msu can afford to wait til his senior year for him to be good.

fair. Just saying, that stretch killed our momentum. We had to "reset" again. Can't blame IU or the administration on that. We could be on top if the movement class was legit.

[MadAboutIndiana 402]

fair. Just saying, that stretch killed our momentum. We had to "reset" again. Can't blame IU or the administration on that. We could be on top if the movement class was legit.

It absolutely killed momentum! As Crean says "no question about it!" Lol

It's not like Crean didn't try to get Gary Harris or Trey Lyles. What ya gonna do ya know? Did all they could

It's impressive to me that Crean survived those years and built the roster we have going forward

Still need better, bigger, pro guards. Can't win titles without em

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,003]

It absolutely killed momentum! As Crean says "no question about it!" Lol

It's not like Crean didn't try to get Gary Harris or Trey Lyles. What ya gonna do ya know? Did all they could

It's impressive to me that Crean survived those years and built the roster we have going forward

Still need better, bigger, pro guards. Can't win titles without em

"you "absolutely" need pro level talent on your roster to win games when it matters"

[MadAboutIndiana 402]

"you "absolutely" need pro level talent on your roster to win games when it matters"

Don't even need to look at the tape to agree with that. Lol

[Alford Bailey 12,839]

UK playing great to end the season. Surprise surprise. Gosh I hate them!

Won another meaningless conference tourney....

[MadAboutIndiana 402]

Won another meaningless conference tourney....

Yeah because IU is comparable to Kentucky lol...

[bleedhoosier 3,627]

Crean was forced to take huge classes which caused a second reset after the 2013 Big Ten title. Had to start over again. As Izzo said, "how do you recruit to that??!"

So yes, I do think there are still ripple effects being felt from the Sampson travesty.

If you can recruit with the big boys, you can turn it around quickly. Iu was not and is not in a position to do that after a generation of irrelevancy

I can see some ripples like u said but I think Crean caused that himself by constantly over recruiting and moving onto "the next shiny project" There is no reason guys like Remy Abell or Malik Story or Nick Williams shouldn't off had the program built around them. I do think the Maurice creek injury had more lingering effects than just for Maurice himself.

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[OliviaPope40 7,155]

Did you not see of the year?

He's retiring.

[biteoftheapple 4,115]

He's retiring.

He can hope

[TheWatShot 14,999]

As much as I'd love to see MSU run Purdue out of the building in the second half, I think Purdue is going to fight back and maybe take the lead at some point. 

[MadAboutIndiana 402]

I can see some ripples like u said but I think Crean caused that himself by constantly over recruiting and moving onto "the next shiny project" There is no reason guys like Remy Abell or Malik Story or Nick Williams shouldn't off had the program built around them. I do think the Maurice creek injury had more lingering effects than just for Maurice himself.

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Uhhhhhh... Malik Story and Williams. I mean, yeah. Didn't really make a huge difference IMO.

Remy was kicked off the team, essentially. He got a lot of chances from Crean.

Again, the over recruiting thing... I think Crean gets constantly misread on that. It's not like he wants the turnover.

Creek definitely impacted win totals early on

[southsidehoosier 5,148]

You have one job MSU

[DChoosier 9,239]

I can see some ripples like u said but I think Crean caused that himself by constantly over recruiting and moving onto "the next shiny project" There is no reason guys like Remy Abell or Malik Story or Nick Williams shouldn't off had the program built around them. I do think the Maurice creek injury had more lingering effects than just for Maurice himself.
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I hated wondering who had to be run out etc., year after year. (which refreshingly not an issue this year).
Story and Williams, however, were not run out.
On the other side of the coin the "movement" really hurt. Many across the country thought it was a great class filled with Indiana kids but it only led to one decent (great) player. This may be the best top to bottom "team" he has put together. Pre-season I thought we would be in a world of hurt any game in which TB got into foul trouble but the depth provided by MB, OG and JM has been a great surprise.
Got to give credit where credit is due.

[BlueDevil 9,347]

Purdue looks good today

[TheWatShot 14,999]

I think Purdue is going to win. 

[MadAboutIndiana 402]

How did Purdue not win the Big Ten?

[biteoftheapple 4,115]

How did Purdue not win the Big Ten?

Inconsistent shotmaking.

[MadAboutIndiana 402]

Inconsistent shotmaking.

Should have played the shooters!