Jeremiah April In Boot

[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

Wide range of opinions on our bigs.  On Hanner--some posters on other message boards predict he will be better than Vonleh was last year and some posters have him doing nothing. I will weigh in with my opinion---I think he will show a bigger jump this year than he did from year 1 to year 2 and I believe he will be solid in the middle.(6+ points/6+ rebs) That's what I am hoping for--that's all we need.  Anything extra is gravy!

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,458]

No one is looking at IU bigs from a staff prospective. When you are preparing a team wouldn't you love to have a 7' plus big guy to prepare with and against. Even if said player does not contribute in games, said player may be a tremendous practice asset to scout other teams.

I think many of our "project" bigs fall into this category. April included. I don't expect anything from these guys in-game and who knows someday one will surprise me.



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[shortspacequickness 1,034]

I appreciate letting me know how the game has changed but I never saw your answer to my question to you which was which of Creans project bigs has paid dividends? 4 + paragraphs telling me how the game changed, how bigs aren't important after stating that all positions are key earlier; Not one has contributed even Hanner. Hanner has talent just lacks the work ethic as shown by little to no improvement in year two. Expecting better thing from him this year but not impressed with any of Creans project bigs in year 7.

I didn't answer the question because it's a ridiculous way to look at the situation. Yes, none of them have "paid dividends" to this point; who would you have signed instead?

 

Amazing how such utter failure with the inside position that we've had so much success. Maybe he can coach after all...

 

I don't think it makes much sense to look at it as a "bottom line" proposition. Bawa, GMM were simply live bodies because no one would come play here. Peter got injured. What the hell is there to say? Sorry Luke Fischer transferred.

 

Funny how most of our success has come with two players playing the 5 who were actually 3/4's. What does that say about how "key" the position is?

 

Hanner has barely played in two years, because he has no idea how to play. Because big players are useless in this AAU culture. It takes time. A lot of people are going to look pretty dumb calling out his work ethic, which we all know hasn't been where it should be, if he puts it together in his junior and senior seasons. Everyone wants it now, now, now... it just doesn't work like that. Not every kid is Cody Zeller.

 

Edit: FYI, not a personal thing at all. I think there are many that agree with your viewpoint. Appreciate the candor.

[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

Discussions/differences of opinion-- are great! That's how we challenge each other to consider different viewpoints and better support our own!

[Josh 13,232]

Hanner has the athleticism and a some tools, but that's about it right now.  On the court he's ranged from completely and utterly lost to pretty much lost the last couple years.  Part of that could be the fact that he hadn't been playing ball long, at a position with a bigger learning curve, when he got on campus.

 

You and I watched very differently.  I thought last year Hanner showed that he belongs.  He has range, free throw shooting, hustle....the biggest thing he needs to work on is staying out of foul trouble.  If he can stay in the game he can be a big part of the team.

[shortspacequickness 1,034]

With Hanner, his lack of playing time came from a mistrust from the coaches defensively. Crean commented that he has improved greatly in this regard.

 

The simpler the better for Hanner... he is a guy that should benefit immensely from playing with great guards. We've never had guards like this since Crean's been here; we've had one or maybe two but not four. If Hanner lets it rip and just goes and gets every rebound, he takes the team to another level.

[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

Alright Hoosier Nation ---we need some eyewitness news---Is Jeremiah April still in the walking boot?  Anyone know if he if fully practicing with the team yet?

[8bucks 7,561]

I just hope he does not come out wearing the soccer shin guards Jurkin used to wear. If he does, he has to transfer immediately.


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[Hovadipo 61,467]

I just hope he does not come out wearing the soccer shin guards Jurkin used to wear. If he does, he has to transfer immediately.


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I had to wear one in high school when I came back from a stress fracture. Believe me, it was not his choice to wear those. They are hell.


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[schoosier 3,740]

I just hope he does not come out wearing the soccer shin guards Jurkin used to wear. If he does, he has to transfer immediately.
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No he and another will have to transfer after the school year to make room for others being recruited.

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,458]

No he and another will have to transfer after the school year to make room for others being recruited.

Sink or swim. If he wants PT, earn it. If he is "unhappy" with place on bench seek PT elsewhere.

Everyone benefits really.

[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

I am not ready to write-off any of the newcomers yet!  We haven't even seen them play!   Patience.......

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Sink or swim. If he wants PT, earn it. If he is "unhappy" with place on bench seek PT elsewhere.

Everyone benefits really.

Couldn't agree more. "Creaning" is nothing unique to Crean. It is a nationwide trend. Players who don't get the playing time they want, will go find it elsewhere. It benefits all programs, and all athletes.


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[WayneFleekHoosier 51,458]

I am not ready to write-off any of the newcomers yet!  We haven't even seen them play!   Patience.......

Don't get me wrong. My response was a generalization of the process not meant to indict anyone specifically. I don't want to predict "who" but worst players and worst personalities can find another location as they choose.

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,458]

Don't get me wrong. My response was a generalization of the process not meant to indict anyone specifically. I don't want to predict "who" but worst players and worst personalities can find another location as they choose.

It was written poorly as "he" was meant to be generic for any player unhappy with their status.

[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

I agree it's reality that some on this team may not be here next year due to NBA or otherwise. And--I am OK with them leaving if they choose to leave on their own...but I cringe when posters start talking about who needs to transfer or leave without even seeing them play yet.  These are people we are talking about---people who chose to play for IU when others would not---we owe them a chance to show us what they got and at least give them a chance to improve and develop throughout the year before we move on to the next shiny object that may not be any better!  I personally want to build some depth with some players who actually stay here multiple years!  OK---rant over----I don't know about you ----but I feel better now!

[bnkepner 1,509]

I agree it's reality that some on this team may not be here next year due to NBA or otherwise. And--I am OK with them leaving if they choose to leave on their own...but I cringe when posters start talking about who needs to transfer or leave without even seeing them play yet.  These are people we are talking about---people who chose to play for IU when others would not---we owe them a chance to show us what they got and at least give them a chance to improve and develop throughout the year before we move on to the next shiny object that may not be any better!  I personally want to build some depth with some players who actually stay here multiple years!  OK---rant over----I don't know about you ----but I feel better now!

Amen to that!  A lot of people on here and on Inside The Hall always talk about wanting 4 year players, but as fans usually aren't patient enough with a player to really want them here 4 years, same with the coach. I just look at a team like Wisconsin, and they usually don't play guys until they have been there a year or two, and they are a consistent winning team. 

[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

Thanks bnkepner---maybe I was a little harsh and this is not even directed at most of our posters-- but I surfed multiple IU message boards today to get the pulse of Hoosier Nation and I was shocked at some people specifically discussing Colin--April---or Tim-- and basically saying they will be gone next year---or using the code---we know three people who won't be here next year.  So irritating and so unfair! What's ridiculous is they were saying the same thing about Nick until he went off in Canada! GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO SUCEED BEFORE YOU CALL THEM FAILURES! They are IU Hoosiers! And to your point bnkepner--not all players come in as starters----some have to develop.... I am embarrassed at some of our fanbase and hope the boys don't read these message boards-- but we know they do. I just hope they know not all of us feel the same way!

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

What gets me are the people who "know" what is happening already. Is it possible the staff told Nick he could have a scholly this season but if we get player X next season he would have to pay? Is it possible that someone has told him they would be leaving at the end if the season if they were projected to go first round? What if the coaching staff already feels if a player will transfer out after the season if they don't get more playing time? Probably not though, I'm sure some posters know more than the coaching staff.


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[schoosier 3,740]

Couldn't agree more. "Creaning" is nothing unique to Crean. It is a nationwide trend. Players who don't get the playing time they want, will go find it elsewhere. It benefits all programs, and all athletes.
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Was Creaning the one out included in Fred Glass' guaranteed 4 year scholarships to athletes? Or will every athlete now leaving the basketball program's reason is to find more playing time elsewhere? I guess the 4 year promise is only as good as the paper it's written on, and actively recruiting and getting commits when you're already full for the next year is going against your athletic director's written policy. I know your argument will be we will have 3 leave early for the NBA lol. I think Crean would be better served in awarding any available scholarship to a deserving walkon that may not contribute vs. giving it to a project freshman big or another that he plans to run off the following year who won't contribute either.