rebelhoosier848891 Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Ummm---Howard could never shoot outside as well as Priller can ! However---Howard is a good example of a player who developed after a few years in our program into a contributor. There is no reason at this time to doubt that Priller can do the same thing if given the chance! scots07 and Kepner 2 Quote
BGleas Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 While I have a great deal of respect for Tim Howard and anybody that's a walk-on, Howard being a contributor was part of the problem last year not the solution. The fact that he at times deserved to play ahead of guys like Hollowell, Perea and Davis, was the problem. Ummm---Howard could never shoot outside as well as Priller can ! However---Howard is a good example of a player who developed after a few years in our program into a contributor. There is no reason at this time to doubt that Priller can do the same thing if given the chance! CampHoosier, 8bucks, Kepner and 1 other 4 Quote
BtownStrength Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 While I have a great deal of respect for Tim Howard and anybody that's a walk-on, Howard being a contributor was part of the problem last year not the solution. The fact that he at times deserved to play ahead of guys like Hollowell, Perea and Davis, was the problem. While I understand and agree with your point, you probably meant Jeff Howard, not Tim. We need Hanner to be a Tim Howard near the rim! WayneFleekHoosier, BGleas and Hovadipo 3 Quote
BGleas Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Haha, whoops :). Thanks for the correction. While I understand and agree with your point, you probably meant Jeff Howard, not Tim. We need Hanner to be a Tim Howard near the rim! BtownStrength 1 Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 The picture in this ITH article is of OG being guarded by Juwan Morgan. http://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/06/2015-forward-o-g-anunoby-closing-in-on-decision/ Sent from my place of advanced, analytical thinking: the toilet. rebelhoosier848891 and Hutch89 2 Quote
rebelhoosier848891 Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 But experience is important too! Howard may not have come in as highly recruited or acclaimed as a walk-on but he worked his tail off and became a contributor over more athletically gifted or skilled players. Part of that was his seasoning and development and time in the program. I agree though that some of it was the lack of progress by other higher rated players. My point is you need players like Priller that know they are not likely to be starters but who can work hard---push players in practice----go in for special situations for a 3 ball---and who get a chance to develop into solid contributors as upperclassmen. That's always been the IU Way! If we become a school that changes our entire roster year after year and don't allow players---especially bigs----to develop----that's a recipe for mediocrity. Quote
djsalway Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Literally no thread stays on topic these days... It's impossible to participate when I click on a thread and it has NOTHING to do with the title. Hutch89, pumpfake, Alabaster Thunder and 2 others 5 Quote
BGleas Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Agree with your overall point, but those role player, upperclassmen guys need to be more talented than Howard and what many of us are suggesting Priller will be if they're going to contribute to a contending team. But experience is important too! Howard may not have come in as highly recruited or acclaimed as a walk-on but he worked his tail off and became a contributor over more athletically gifted or skilled players. Part of that was his seasoning and development and time in the program. I agree though that some of it was the lack of progress by other higher rated players. My point is you need players like Priller that know they are not likely to be starters but who can work hard---push players in practice----go in for special situations for a 3 ball---and who get a chance to develop into solid contributors as upperclassmen. That's always been the IU Way! If we become a school that changes our entire roster year after year and don't allow players---especially bigs----to develop----that's a recipe for mediocrity. WayneFleekHoosier 1 Quote
rebelhoosier848891 Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Do you have some OG news to share---djsalway? We may get a little off-topic sometimes but at least we keep on posting! WayneFleekHoosier, BGleas and MikeRoberts 3 Quote
rebelhoosier848891 Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Fair enough BGleas---time will tell on that one.... And before some of our fellow posters throw a hissy---the same discussion applies to OG as well. He may not be ranked the highest but with development and experience his ceiling is high. Where I do agree with you BGleas---is that we cannot have a team full of players who are all diamonds in the rough and who are not ready to be starters. If we did--- we would be Purdue! 8bucks 1 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Do you have some OG news to share---djsalway? We may get a little off-topic sometimes but at least we keep on posting!i would say that this OG thread while a little off topic is not too far off. The discussion of late has been "where does OG's scholarship come from?" Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners WayneFleekHoosier, Kepner, rebelhoosier848891 and 1 other 4 Quote
rebelhoosier848891 Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Yeah MikeRoberts----I trust the coaches on it--- but it is puzzling with who all we are still recruiting! I gave my theory above. Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted October 7, 2014 Author Posted October 7, 2014 i would say that this OG thread while a little off topic is not too far off. The discussion of late has been "where does OG's scholarship come from?" Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersperfect point. Conscious stream of thought. Not too far off topic. Oh, and BTW OG is a legit prospect that has upside. Recognized in the FALL prior to his Senior season. Another reason, he is not like April and Priller. And another BTW I think Howard is a fair comparison (upside-wise) to Priller. Except Howard is better from what I've heard. Also, people take this as player bashing. It is not. We are happy for these kids but question the "higher ups" for their decision making. For those that know me, I've said the same things about the Hartman signing all along too. Am I right? Likely! Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners MikeRoberts and 8bucks 2 Quote
rebelhoosier848891 Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 I agree with a lot of your points WayneFleek----but why do you not feel Priller and April have upside when they haven't even played yet? Quote
rebelhoosier848891 Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 I agree WayneFleek that OG has a high ceiling and has a special skill---elite athleticism---that makes him a great recruit but as much as I like him---I also admit he is not a likely starter next year if he commits. I just think Priller and April have special skills as well. Priller is a big who can absolutely light it up from outside and April is a big who has great size and passing. I just don't understand why everyone thinks they are somehow inferior before they even play a game. Crean is better at identifying talent earlier than a lot of other coaches and I see no reason why that cannot be true for Priller and April (and Z3 who everyone is now conveniently deleting from their criticism after the Canadian trip). Time will tell. Just my opinion. I will always give our players the benefit of the doubt until I am shown otherwise! Kepner 1 Quote
Kepner Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 perfect point. Conscious stream of thought. Not too far off topic. Oh, and BTW OG is a legit prospect that has upside. Recognized in the FALL prior to his Senior season. Another reason, he is not like April and Priller. And another BTW I think Howard is a fair comparison (upside-wise) to Priller. Except Howard is better from what I've heard. Also, people take this as player bashing. It is not. We are happy for these kids but question the "higher ups" for their decision making. For those that know me, I've said the same things about the Hartman signing all along too. Am I right? Likely! Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners I don't think Howard and Priller are a comparison at all. Howard was a post player and I think Priller's is more of a stretch 4/5. He is going to spend most of his time hitting jump shots and hitting the 3. While Howard was more of a garbage man down low for rebounds. But I do understand what you mean rebelhoosier848891 1 Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 The picture in this ITH article is of OG being guarded by Juwan Morgan. http://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/06/2015-forward-o-g-anunoby-closing-in-on-decision/ Sent from my place of advanced, analytical thinking: the toilet. Whoa! That's pretty cool that Morgan and OG have gone head to head! Sent from my place of advanced, analytical thinking: the toilet. rebelhoosier848891 and WayneFleekHoosier 2 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted October 7, 2014 Author Posted October 7, 2014 I don't think Howard and Priller are a comparison at all. Howard was a post player and I think Priller's is more of a stretch 4/5. He is going to spend most of his time hitting jump shots and hitting the 3. While Howard was more of a garbage man down low for rebounds. But I do understand what you meanI understand your point too. They do have different skill sets. My comparison and connection relates to upside, athleticism, national recognition, etc... In addition to other sources, my man basketball4iu has stated publicly that April and Priller are very far behind and plain not very good. I am not basing everything on that claim but it fits in to support everything else. I would love as much as anything for these guys to prove us all wrong but do I want to give 4 years of scholarship to get "Jeff Howard" like production for a season or 2? No. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted October 7, 2014 Author Posted October 7, 2014 Whoa! That's pretty cool that Morgan and OG have gone head to head! Sent from my place of advanced, analytical thinking: the toilet.Hard to tell from this pic, but the 6'8" claims on OG may be correct. Morgan and OG look similar heights in the pic. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners rebelhoosier848891 1 Quote
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