biteoftheapple Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 I do not pretend to know anything at all. But, I tend to agree with aloha. I do not know his academic standing, but his family seems to be big on academics and degree oriented. Bobman1, Stuhoo, HoosierAloha and 1 other 4 Quote
Stuhoo Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Two years + three summers at IU gets a player really close to a degree; that's one of the reasons I think he'll go. He doesn't need huge offensive numbers to be a first rounder. HoosierAloha 1 Quote
bhaggard89 Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 I'd rather have Juwan and Shake. Would be odd to take OG and Juwan. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners LOLZ. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
X-Hoosier Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 I do not pretend to know anything at all. But, I tend to agree with aloha. I do not know his academic standing, but his family seems to be big on academics and degree oriented. I swear this is said about every single player lol. Good golly. We should all hope OG has a season that makes him a Top 5 pick. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
hoosierpap Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 14 minutes ago, X-Hoosier said: I swear this is said about every single player lol. Good golly. We should all hope OG has a season that makes him a Top 5 pick. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app Fwiw, OG's Dad is a professor at Lincoln University. I think that may be where the stems from with OG. To your point, it'll be a basketball decision. Quote
X-Hoosier Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Fwiw, OG's Dad is a professor at Lincoln University. I think that may be where the stems from with OG. To your point, it'll be a basketball decision. I just don't understand people wanting players to stay when they should leave for the NBA. Like that is a positive. Especially for someone in OG's position. That could be big for recruiting. To have a player from outside the Top 250 go in the lottery. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
hoosierpap Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 25 minutes ago, X-Hoosier said: I just don't understand people wanting players to stay when they should leave for the NBA. Like that is a positive. Especially for someone in OG's position. That could be big for recruiting. To have a player from outside the Top 250 go in the lottery. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app I hear you, but I think it's as simple as they want them playing for their team and aren't looking long term like that. HoosierAloha, Class of '66 Old Fart and Hoosierfan2017 3 Quote
Stuhoo Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 I just don't understand people wanting players to stay when they should leave for the NBA. Like that is a positive. Especially for someone in OG's position. That could be big for recruiting. To have a player from outside the Top 250 go in the lottery. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app I want him to be a lotto pick with a degree from IU. We have had two of those in the past five years. How many schools can say they produce lotto picks and those picks leave with a verifiable education? HoosierAloha, mamasa, Class of '66 Old Fart and 1 other 4 Quote
X-Hoosier Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 I want him to be a lotto pick with a degree from IU. We have had two of those in the past five years. How many schools can say they produce lotto picks and those picks leave with a verifiable education? He can get a degree anytime he wants. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
HoosierAloha Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 I know it's crazy talk in the era of one and give me my money but I like players who stick around and earn a degree. I also care about how good Indiana University men's basketball team will be. We can say how much it will help recruiting by the staff recruiting a kid outside the top 250 and having him drafted in the first round. I agree that's really cool but again I prefer the staff being able to sell the family on turning the young man into a man, earning his degree, AND getting drafted in the lottery. I guess what I'm saying is if we had a million Oladipo's I would be extremely happy. Class of '66 Old Fart, mamasa, Bobman1 and 4 others 7 Quote
X-Hoosier Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 I know it's crazy talk in the era of one and give me my money but I like players who stick around and earn a degree. I also care about how good Indiana University men's basketball team will be. We can say how much it will help recruiting by the staff recruiting a kid outside the top 250 and having him drafted in the first round. I agree that's really cool but again I prefer the staff being able to sell the family on turning the young man into a man, earning his degree, AND getting drafted in the lottery. I guess what I'm saying is if we had a million Oladipo's I would be extremely happy. So preparing someone for a professional athlete without a degree is not turning them into a "man?" Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
HoosierAloha Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Where did I post that? Don't construe what you want to read in my post that's not actually there. No projection needed. mamasa, Hoosierfan2017, Crimson and Cream and 1 other 4 Quote
Stuhoo Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 He can get a degree anytime he wants. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app True. But is extremely, incredibly rare. As in "0- fer Calipari." Quote
mamasa Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 1 hour ago, X-Hoosier said: So preparing someone for a professional athlete without a degree is not turning them into a "man?" Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app C'mon X, you've been doing really well, posting relevant content and not stirring the pot. Don't start now. Quote
X-Hoosier Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 C'mon X, you've been doing really well, posting relevant content and not stirring the pot. Don't start now. I'm just saying. We should be wanting OG to be leaving after this year. Degree or not. Him and Bryant should be hopefully leaving as lottery picks. I'm not worried about them getting a degree. That is their choice. I care about what they do on the floor. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app Dalton26 1 Quote
mamasa Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 6 minutes ago, X-Hoosier said: I'm just saying. We should be wanting OG to be leaving after this year. Degree or not. Him and Bryant should be hopefully leaving as lottery picks. I'm not worried about them getting a degree. That is their choice. I care about what they do on the floor. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app And I'm just saying, don't start with the argumentative baiting posts every time. Quote
HoosierHoops1 Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 19 minutes ago, X-Hoosier said: I'm just saying. We should be wanting OG to be leaving after this year. Degree or not. Him and Bryant should be hopefully leaving as lottery picks. I'm not worried about them getting a degree. That is their choice. I care about what they do on the floor. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app Why would I want to get a good recruit based on OG going pro, rather than having OG 2 more years? Crimson and Cream, Hoosierfan2017, HoosierAloha and 2 others 5 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 And it's perfectly fine that you want them to leave after this season. I prefer an older brand of basketball where it's not all about the NBA but about the college game, and the college team that I support. I've said both that I would like OG to stay and I believe he won't have the year some are projecting. Even if he doesn't have a spectacular year he might have the opportunity as a first rounder. I thought it was pretty awesome Bryant chose to return and stated that he wanted more out of the college game. That earned him respect with the older generation IU fans that he would pass up millions to accomplish more FOR IU. Again, all just my opinion. GloryDays, Dalton26 and ALASKA HOOSIER 3 Quote
X-Hoosier Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Why would I want to get a good recruit based on OG going pro, rather than having OG 2 more years? Because that can build into getting another one and another one and another and so on. And I'm not talking getting a Troy Williams on the wing. I'm talking getting a Wilkes or a Porter. Maybe we get lucky and get a Wiggins. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
HoosierHoops1 Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 We may already be getting a Wilkes. And if we would have had Zeller and VO another season, we'd have strung together another top 5 season and might have gotten an even bigger bounce. Vonleh was the theoretical 5 star big that we got off Zeller being good, but we'd have been better with Zeller staying. HoosierAloha 1 Quote
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