Golfman25 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 7 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: Uhh... Because Indiana is behind those schools? At least as of 2019. Louisville, Kansas, Nebraska, Washington all have bigger contracts. Do you have a source for all these contact numbers you're throwing around? thebigweave 1 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 Just now, Golfman25 said: Do you have a source for all these contact numbers you're throwing around? Forbes. Forbes made a Top 10 for schools and their deals back in 2019. UCLA at the time was #1 with Under Armour. Louisville #2 with Adidas. Kansas #4. Washington #6. Nebraska #7. As far as Big Ten teams... 1. UCLA(Under Armour) 5. Michigan(Nike/Jordan) 6. Washington(Adidas) 7. Nebraska(Adidas) 8. Ohio State(Nike) 9. Wisconsin(Under Armour) Quote
southernindianahoosier2 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 3 hours ago, 68Hoosier said: I agree, I don't care what brand is on my shirt other than IU. You can only put IU or Indiana on a shirt so many ways so I doubt that Nike will find a new way to spell IU or make it look better to the fan base. jmo That’s literally the point you’re making for me and anyone else who wants Nike… go to a Nike school’s website and there’s 7+ pages of option…. Go to Indiana and there’s barely anything for sale…. if it doesn’t matter…. then why isn’t adidas just pushing as much content as possible? At one point adidas didn’t sell any Leo gear or Quarterzips. why do you think Homefield even exists? It’s because Adidas didn’t have any exciting product, so they stepped in. But for further Example: let’s say Nike pays IU $3m up front but gets 20% of IU merch sales and they sell $10M of Nike gear Adidas pays $4M up front and we get 20% of $5m of Adidas sales Which option would you take and why? Quote
Golfman25 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 2 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: Forbes. Forbes made a Top 10 for schools and their deals back in 2019. UCLA at the time was #1 with Under Armour. Louisville #2 with Adidas. Kansas #4. Washington #6. Nebraska #7. As far as Big Ten teams... 1. UCLA(Under Armour) 5. Michigan(Nike/Jordan) 6. Washington(Adidas) 7. Nebraska(Adidas) 8. Ohio State(Nike) 9. Wisconsin(Under Armour) Ok great. When IU signed with Adidas in 2015 it was top 5 largest deals. https://indianahq.com/5-things-you-didnt-know-about-ius-contract-with-adidas/ Quote
southernindianahoosier2 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 4 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said: But for further Example: let’s say Nike pays IU $3m up front but gets 20% of IU merch sales and they sell $10M of Nike gear Adidas pays $4M up front and we get 20% of $5m of Adidas sales Which option would you take and why? Would love to hear an opinion for Adidas in this scenario Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 1 minute ago, Golfman25 said: Ok great. When IU signed with Adidas in 2015 it was top 5 largest deals. https://indianahq.com/5-things-you-didnt-know-about-ius-contract-with-adidas/ And we've gotten well surpassed since then. Louisville and Kansas signed their deal just 2 years after we did. We are a nobody to Adidas. No reason to stick with them. Champion could do better and I'm not even sure they make products anymore. Ngw7183 and southernindianahoosier2 1 1 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 Just now, southernindianahoosier2 said: Would love to hear an opinion for Adidas in this scenario The only argument for Adidas is "this is what we've been doing so it's fine." Ngw7183 1 Quote
Golfman25 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 7 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: And we've gotten well surpassed since then. Louisville and Kansas signed their deal just 2 years after we did. We are a nobody to Adidas. No reason to stick with them. Champion could do better and I'm not even sure they make products anymore. You do understand how long-term deals work, don't you. thebigweave, Home Jersey and RaceToTheTop 3 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 4 minutes ago, Golfman25 said: You do understand how long-term deals work, don't you. Do you? Louisville got a 10 year just like Indiana and it almost doubled IUs contract with Adidas just two years after the fact. Kansas got a 14 year deal. Quote
Golfman25 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 17 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: Do you? Louisville got a 10 year just like Indiana and it almost doubled IUs contract with Adidas just two years after the fact. Kansas got a 14 year deal. You clearly don't. LT deal is signed -- becomes one of the most lucrative. Value then dwindles as time moves forward as other schools negotiate new deals. Rinse and repeat. thebigweave 1 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 12 minutes ago, Golfman25 said: You clearly don't. LT deal is signed -- becomes one of the most lucrative. Value then dwindles as time moves forward as other schools negotiate new deals. Rinse and repeat. Oh so you think will now sign a deal that's when double Louisvilles from 2017? Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 29 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said: It is like I am speaking a foreign language. I know because they have better FOOTBALL programs and in Kansas case better BB to go with it. Nike offered in the couple mil a year range for IU. You also wouldn’t get any extra player NiL deals like adidas does for IU. They do more beyond the contract. Fix football and then maybe next time contract is up but non starter right now. Well good think Indiana has an exciting football future to offer in a deal now. Ngw7183 1 Quote
southernindianahoosier2 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 Is there anyone in the chat that can name one thing that Indiana Basketball does at a championship level? Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 48 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: Well good think Indiana has an exciting football future to offer in a deal now. Unless that actually takes place, it means nothing. And it sure as hell has nothing to do with a contract that IU signed in 2015. Ngw7183 and thebigweave 1 1 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 3 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said: Is there anyone in the chat that can name one thing that Indiana Basketball does at a championship level? No, because this isn't AOL and there is no chat. thebigweave and Ngw7183 1 1 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 54 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: Well good think Indiana has an exciting football future to offer in a deal now. Quote
Scotty R Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 Why do people care so much about such trivial stuff like what shoe company IU uses. This discussion is mind numbing and cluttering this board lillurk, thebigweave and tkbbn 3 Quote
Golfman25 Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 1 hour ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: Oh so you think will now sign a deal that's when double Louisvilles from 2017? From what I can gather, the top deals today are in the $8-$10 million per year range. My expectation would be IU’s next deal would be in line with those numbers and probably a bit more. thebigweave, Ngw7183 and Hovadipo 3 Quote
coonhounds Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 I don't care weather iu is nike or Adidas or whatever brand. Loaded argues nike is better because Adidas puts us behind kansas and whoever else. Why would nike put us above duke or oregon? Or whoever else million nike schools. We need a fing decent coach and everything else will come. We haven't had that imo. We certainly don't have that last 15 plus years. Sent from my SM-A326U using Tapatalk tkbbn and thebigweave 2 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 1 minute ago, coonhounds said: I don't care weather iu is nike or Adidas or whatever brand. Loaded argues nike is better because Adidas puts us behind kansas and whoever else. Why would nike put us above duke or oregon? Or whoever else million nike schools. We need a fing decent coach and everything else will come. We haven't had that imo. We certainly don't have that last 15 plus years. Sent from my SM-A326U using Tapatalk It isn't because they put us behind Kansas and Louisville and a few other schools... It's that they are a crap company who gives out crap apparel to fans, gives zero creativity on the court, crap shoes, zero leverage in recruiting. We get treated by Adidas like the junk that accidentally falls out behind the junk drawer. Forgotten. Rico, coonhounds and MikeRoberts 2 1 Quote
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