* Empire Classic * Indiana vs. UCONN Sunday 11/19/2023 1 pm ESPN @MSG

[Golfman25 5,430]

25 minutes ago, reconmkd said:

I disagree with the spaz part. As a senior in high school, Gunn shot 46.8% from the field and 37.4% from 3. He can shoot, but he obviously needs to calm it down about 10 notches and let the game come to him.

Yeah, I was a gym class All American. :)   Kid is well into his second year.  Should be calmed down by now.  

[IU_FanClub 1,679]

4 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Yeah, I was a gym class All American. :)   Kid is well into his second year.  Should be calmed down by now.  

You seem to really hate CJ lol

[monskisprodigy 1,923]

46 minutes ago, reconmkd said:

I swear, if he would just not try to jump through the roof on all his shots, he could likely be a 35+% from 3. The shot is there, he is just too amped up and jumps way to d@mn high.

We all saw the same thing which is funny...how are the coaches not seeing it haha. I commented about this as soon as I saw it. It was a much more natural shot...elevated normally, form was perfect and it hit the bottom of the net. You could see him visually shake his head...thinking "of course that one goes in". 

Honestly, the max vertical jump on his shots is hindering him by itself, but then he adds a fade away to every shot and it just compounds. If he would elevate normally and go up vertically, more would drop. Need a shot doctor on this team...get in the gym with Hulls. 

CJ Gunn has the tools to be a big contributor for us. He played well defensively...and if he hits a couple of those open shots, we are having a much different conversation about him. I really would like to see him start in front of Mgbako today, to be active with his hands, cause some disruption and hopefully bang a couple jumpers. 

[BGleas 7,903]

I think for now the rotation should be:

Guards and wings (1-3): XJ, Galloway, Gunn, Cupps

Forwards and bigs (4/5): Ware, Reneau, Mgbako, Banks

Sparks as needed if we have to have some size. 

[str8baller 5,253]

5 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

For me X, Cupps, Trey, Malik, Ware and i would play X as close to 40 min as possible.  My thing is I want 2 primary ball handlers on the court together as much as possible.   Mgbako, Gunn with heavy minutes as well with Sparks giving Ware relief.  Got to get creative moving people around within that rotation to give people blows.  

I think from some of the lineup metrics that the coach Andrage guy posts on Twitter  it has to be cupps instead of gunn to give you a chance at a lineup that can defend at a high level. A lot of people are praising Gunn but he made a lot of dumb rotations that gave up at least 3 wide open 3’s yesterday. Just basic stuff that can’t happen with your best lineup. There’s a reason Woody has reverted to that lineup to close games.  
 

Also, Gunn off the bench gives you a chance at a little scoring punch when those bench guys are in. He can at least create his own shot. The problem with Gunn off the bench is that it could pair him MM and watching those two try and talk through a screen is worrying. It gives me flashbacks to Banks and Geronimo trying to switch screens last year, which had to be some sort of perverse comedic basketball performance art. 

[Whoozhers 3,690]

“IF” we could’ve held on to that hard fought for defensive rebound instead of them getting the ball back and turning it into a 3 point play I think it would have given us the juice/spark to get us back in the game.

THE BALL JUST DOESN’T BOUNCE OUR WAY….. YET.

GO HOOSIERS!

[Stuhoo 80,871]

14 minutes ago, monskisprodigy said:

Need a shot doctor on this team...get in the gym with Hulls. 

 

I've got your shot doctor right here:

 

[TheWatShot 14,000]

1 hour ago, realTomCrean said:

I saw on X that local writers and radio shows are insinuating that Coach Woodson needs to be fired. Is this real or FAKE NEWS? 

I'm not at that point yet, but I'm very concerned/annoyed that this is the product he's putting on the court in his third season. There isn't much left from the previous regime...so why do we still look so similar? 

[realTomCrean 1,540]

13 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

I've got your shot doctor right here:

 

you rang?

[realTomCrean 1,540]

13 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

I'm not at that point yet, but I'm very concerned/annoyed that this is the product he's putting on the court in his third season. There isn't much left from the previous regime...so why do we still look so similar? 

Fumbling on two transfers this offseason, Mgbako not playing to rating, Newton injury, Gunn not hitting water falling out of a boat. I don't know haha a bunch of reasons why. The most maddening and valid is having a stretch 5 who can shoot and declaring him to be TJD remake. I love Coach Woodson, not getting an argument for firing here. 2/2 on Tourney and his teams get better after New Year's

[LIHoosier 26,205]

18 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

I've got your shot doctor right here:

 

dammit, Crean had that vid of him airballing a free throw in Maui expunged from the internets.

[Golfman25 5,430]

59 minutes ago, IU_FanClub said:

You seem to really hate CJ lol

Nah.  Can never hate any IU player.  Frustrated -- hell yeah.  To the Nth degree.  

 

I guess I'm just old.  Come from the days when IU players where at least polished.  And fundamentally sound.  Even the worst shooter could hit a shot from time to time and a freaking free throw  (remember the old "make more than they take days).  Today's players (applies to many teams, just not IU) just aren't as sound as the golden years.  Plus, they are softer, can't handle adversity, let alone a lot of red a$$ from a coach.  Oh, and get off my lawn.  

[str8baller 5,253]

31 minutes ago, LIHoosier said:

dammit, Crean had that vid of him airballing a free throw in Maui expunged from the internets.

Thank God. 

[Scotty R 2,139]

10 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Nah.  Can never hate any IU player.  Frustrated -- hell yeah.  To the Nth degree.  

 

I guess I'm just old.  Come from the days when IU players where at least polished.  And fundamentally sound.  Even the worst shooter could hit a shot from time to time and a freaking free throw  (remember the old "make more than they take days).  Today's players (applies to many teams, just not IU) just aren't as sound as the golden years.  Plus, they are softer, can't handle adversity, let alone a lot of red a$$ from a coach.  Oh, and get off my lawn.  

From my perspective that is a lot of college basketball and not just an IU problem.  College basketball season is usually so exciting to me but I am having a hard time getting into this season. There has been a lot of disjointed games and a lot of bad shooting. Games has been close but that doesn't make the product on the court fun to watch.

Also I don't know if it is my age but sports hasn't been as entertaining toe the last couple of years. I think as for College sports I think the portal and NIL stuff is wearing me out. After reading the problems that LSU women's team is having with Reece and her NIL stuff is making me less interested in the game.

[94Bulldog 602]

4 hours ago, realTomCrean said:

I saw on X that local writers and radio shows are insinuating that Coach Woodson needs to be fired. Is this real or FAKE NEWS? 

Calm down Tom, we don’t want you back either way.  ;)

[realTomCrean 1,540]

7 minutes ago, 94Bulldog said:

Calm down Tom, we don’t want you back either way.  ;)

Shoot you need an OC my guy 

[coonhounds 8,941]

I hate us

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[monskisprodigy 1,923]

This is bad. Real bad.

[monskisprodigy 1,923]

1-11 from three…just not acceptable in todays college basketball. Not finding a shooter will be Woodys demise.

[monskisprodigy 1,923]

We went zone!