*RANT HERE*

[IndyResident16 567]

1 minute ago, Scotty R said:

Again I am not even talking about the product on the court because that isn't the most important thing with a coach that represents your University. I know you are a win at any cost fan and that embarrasses this older IU fan. This fan base use to look down at those kinds of fans(UK) but now we have those kinds of fans

College athletics is a multi-billion dollar, results driven industry. Winning is 1000% the most important thing. Anyone saying otherwise is lying to themselves.

[IUCrazy2 2,261]

1 minute ago, IndyResident16 said:

College athletics is a multi-billion dollar, results driven industry. Winning is 1000% the most important thing. Anyone saying otherwise is lying to themselves.

No it isn't.  It is pretty darn important but if it was most important Beard would still be at Texas.

[IndyResident16 567]

Just now, IUCrazy2 said:

No it isn't.  It is pretty darn important but if it was most important Beard would still be at Texas.

Making an image hire has never turned out successful in the long run. And Texas doesn’t care about basketball especially now that their football team is rolling. And Beard’s been cleared of all charges so it’s a completely different process.

[Uspshoosier 44,671]

During IUs coaching search before Woody was hired Beard was high on Coaching Boards.  Then he fell way down on them  and eventually off the coaching boards people were putting out.   It was reported after IU did some background checks that Beard had skeletons in his closest that would prevent him from some schools  to consider him.    IU was one of those schools.   Texas took a chance on him and then in the end got burned for hiring him.    Someone will always hire someone as talented as him and give him a second chance probably mostly SEC schools but other schools were not going to hire him before this last incident and those same schools won’t hiring him after 

[southernindianahoosier2 902]

11 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

During IUs coaching search before Woody was hired Beard was high on Coaching Boards.  Then he fell way down on them and eventually off the coaching boards people were putting out.   It was reported after IU did some background checks that Beard had skeletons in his closest that would prevent him from some schools  to consider him.    IU was one of those schools.   Texas took a chance on him and then in the end got burned for hiring him.    Someone will always hire someone as talented as him and give him a second chance probably mostly SEC schools but other schools were not going to hire him before this last incident and those same schools won’t hiring him after 

Hypothetically- if we had hired beard instead of woody and let’s say the same incident occurs, we would have been a 2 seed last year in the E8, and to replace him we probably would have hired woody. 

[IndyResident16 567]

9 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

During IUs coaching search before Woody was hired Beard was high on Coaching Boards.  Then he fell way down on the  and eventually off the coaching boards people were putting out.   It was reported after IU did some background checks that Beard had skeletons in his closest that would prevent him from some schools  to consider him.    IU was one of those schools.   Texas took a chance on him and then in the end got burned for hiring him.    Someone will always hire someone as talented as him and give him a second chance probably mostly SEC schools but other schools were not going to hire him before this last incident and those same schools won’t hiring him after 

And this should surprised nobody as to why IU has fallen as far as they have the last 20 years, they’re more concerned with protecting their image than actually winning games. It’s a sad reality for those of us who watched IU as a once great program, because winning was the point of emphasis first and foremost and all the other “noise” was pushed to the side. And nobody had a problem with it. Winning cures all. Always has always will.

[Golfman25 4,859]

2 hours ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

Every time we have a vacancy in the presidents office we then decide to make a change at the AD position. So who is hiring these AD’s? I believe glass was hired by Gonso. Who hired Dolson? Who REALLY hired Woodson? Was it Buckner?

I want to point out that this program has dysfunction starting at who ever is making the decisions on hiring the AD, the AD,  the coach, even now the players and trickles all the way down to the smallest things in the program. (Why don’t we  have script Indiana uniforms? … it’s complete dysfunction even with the apparel and gear… why do 30% of fans wear buffalo related gear yet IU refuses to cash in on that? That’s money left on the table…)

This is a complete systemic rot at every level

Literally we can’t hire the right AD, because of that we can’t hire the right coach.

The university continues to gaslight the fans. It is a complete lie to push the narrative that the fans are the reason a coach can’t be successful here. Show me a program that has hired Mike Davis, Crean, Archie and Woodson in succession and literally anyone who watches basketball would say “ya none of those guys are gonna lead IU to a title”

Did you know that there are coaches that have fireside chats that provide transparency to their fans? 
 

The lack of Transparency and Accountability within the university and then to deflect and gaslight the fan base…If I’m the AD, I’m telling Mike Woodson to address the fan base on how he’s planning on eliminating ejections and the taking of long 2’s… is that too much to ask for????

this program refuses to listen to the fanbase. They are stuck in their ivory towers with a holier than thou smugness with zero regard to adapting their product to the consumer base.

If your customer base says  “we no longer want to pay late video rental fees, and would rather stream” and as a business owner you say “our customer's are toxic, we’re not gonna change” then you are blockbuster and you’re out of business….At Indiana you get a raise…

DePaul on line one.  

[HoosierHoopster 6,503]

1 minute ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

Hypothetically- if we had hired beard instead of woody and let’s say the same incident occurs, we would have been a 2 seed last year in the E8, and to replace him we probably would have hired woody. 

Hindsight, that assumes all kinds of things including recruiting, really doesn’t get you anywhere— and if the same incident had occurred at IU, just imagine the backlash here. Texas doesn’t care that much about bball, it’s a football and baseball state / school. Indiana would’ve gone nuts

[8bucks 6,264]

14 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

During IUs coaching search before Woody was hired Beard was high on Coaching Boards.  Then he fell way down on the  and eventually off the coaching boards people were putting out.   It was reported after IU did some background checks that Beard had skeletons in his closest that would prevent him from some schools  to consider him.    IU was one of those schools.   Texas took a chance on him and then in the end got burned for hiring him.    Someone will always hire someone as talented as him and give him a second chance probably mostly SEC schools but other schools were not going to hire him before this last incident and those same schools won’t hiring him after 

Not doubting you but would be interested in the reporting on this. I have not seen anything about this, even if it now seems probable. Incredible coach but if he legit has this problem it should’ve been a big red flag. 

[southernindianahoosier2 902]

3 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

And this should surprised nobody as to why IU has fallen as far as they have the last 20 years, they’re more concerned with protecting their image than actually winning games. It’s a sad reality for those of us who watched IU as a once great program, because winning was the point of emphasis first and foremost and all the other “noise” was pushed to the side. And nobody had a problem with it. Winning cures all. Always has always will.

The image of Indiana Basketball nationally is that we’re ******* terrible… Furthering the admins disconnect from reality. 

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29 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

He got busted his first day in Bloomington 

Wasn’t he living/staying in one of the dorms at this point until his house was ready haha.

[IndyResident16 567]

2 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

The image of Indiana Basketball nationally is that we’re ******* terrible… Furthering the admins disconnect from reality. 

Yeah but our coaches have high morals in case you didn’t know.

[southernindianahoosier2 902]

Just now, IndyResident16 said:

Yeah but our coaches have high morals in case you didn’t know.

I’m more and more convinced that the last 2 ADs aren’t actually  pushovers with no strategic vision, they are simply puppets of some ego driven clueless maniac behind the curtains that is sabotaging everyone 

[RaceToTheTop 24,517]

1 hour ago, Scotty R said:

I guarantee you I have seen and know more about IU basketball than you do.

 

[IndyResident16 567]

6 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

I’m more and more convinced that the last 2 ADs aren’t actually  pushovers with no strategic vision, they are simply puppets of some ego driven clueless maniac behind the curtains that is sabotaging everyone 

I’d like to think an actual AD with prior experience could sell a vision better than these last two dopes.