They Fired Tom Allen!

[Scotty R 3,765]

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

Imagine sitting on the internet, never once coaching football or calling plays in your life..... posting that a D1 football coach, that has been a HC... is a moron. 

It just cannot get funnier than that. 

It also funny how fans can't see after 6+ years that a coach isn't doing a good job.

 

[realTomCrean 2,766]

4 hours ago, OGIUAndy said:

You know Deion isn't going to be there very long, right? He'll hit the road as soon as the first big time school gives him an offer. I myself said IU needed a guy like Deion, aka someone to bring a spotlight to the program, really light a spark. But that's a double edge sword because schools like IU and Coloardo are not "destination" jobs. I think everyone knows CTA is in over his head as a coach, I think most were just hoping he'd surround himself with really good coaches and just "lead" the team. But that's probably not super realistic at place like IU. Good assistant coaches will leave, and replacing them year after year is difficult so the head guy needs to be a really good x's and o's guy. I get the frustration with what's going on, but I think the timing of the most recent uproar is a little misguided or misplaced. Let's come back to this (again) in 4-5 weeks. But regardless, IU is not forking over $20M to CTA. So if the season goes horribly south, he either quits/resigns (highly unlikely) or there's a negotiated buyout, I would assume around $10M. That all being said, I am going to wager that IU wins 6 games this year. The offense will get better (how can it not) and the defense looked very good. 

If you’re wagering 6 games I’ll gladly accept

[monskisprodigy 2,307]

5 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Urban Myer ? LOL!

Just win baby!

[Stuhoo 89,765]

8 minutes ago, monskisprodigy said:

Just win baby!

A great idea, but alas, too old (aka...dead).

[Hovadipo 61,503]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Uhhh......I'm in. Just don't let him pick his OC!

[Hovadipo 61,503]

22 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

It also funny how fans can't see after 6+ years that a coach isn't doing a good job.

 

Who on earth is saying this 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 12,078]

1 hour ago, Scotty R said:

It also funny how fans can't see after 6+ years that a coach isn't doing a good job.

 

Walt Bells coached 6 years? Wild.  But you missed the point of the post. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 12,078]

42 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Uhhh......I'm in. Just don't let him pick his OC!

I mean, if it were Pat Fitz vs Tom Allen... hell yes I'm taking one of the 10-15 best HCs in the country lol 

[Scotty R 3,765]

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

Walt Bells coached 6 years? Wild.  But you missed the point of the post. 

I thought he was talking about Allen. I know you will never criticize a coach no matter how they are doing.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 12,078]

1 minute ago, Scotty R said:

I thought he was talking about Allen. I know you will never criticize a coach no matter how they are doing.

I'm not dumb enough to. You're right. 

[Scotty R 3,765]

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

I'm not dumb enough to. You're right. 

Why are coaches untouchable to criticism 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 12,078]

10 hours ago, Scotty R said:

Why are coaches untouchable to criticism 

They aren't, clearly. 

Look at the thread title. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,310]

16 hours ago, btownqb said:

Imagine sitting on the internet, never once coaching football or calling plays in your life..... posting that a D1 football coach, that has been a HC... is a moron. 

It just cannot get funnier than that. 

Imagine sitting on the internet believing people can't have opinions... Yes, Tom Allen and Walt Bell are moronic coaches relative to other P5 coaches. Not really sure the difficulty here in understanding or why having an opinion isn't allowed.

[Stuhoo 89,765]

All,

From this point in the thread forward please refrain from veering toward personal insults or weighing who is allowed to say (or not say) what.

Much appreciated!

[Naturalhoosier 15,478]

50 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

All,

From this point in the thread forward please refrain from veering toward personal insults or weighing who is allowed to say (or not say) what.

Much appreciated!

 

 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 12,078]

3 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Imagine sitting on the internet believing people can't have opinions... Yes, Tom Allen and Walt Bell are moronic coaches relative to other P5 coaches. Not really sure the difficulty here in understanding or why having an opinion isn't allowed.

hmmm ok.. so in detail, and not emotion-filled BS, tell me what the issues were with WB from Saturday? 

Again, use the film.. and go into detail. 

I'll post the videos for you. 

 

 

Personally, I just think a bunch of you ***** to ***** and there isn't much substance behind it. 

 

I will admit.. I was pretty pissed when we didn't punt with 40-50 secs to go in the half when we were down 7-3. I would have punted there, pinned them (I think OSU would have just taken knees to end the half)... you go into the half down 4 and OSU has zero momentum. 

It also takes 5 or 6 plays away from your defense, on a hot day like Saturday. 

But the two biggest plays for us offensively were NOT screwed up by WB. That was, whoever jumped on 3rd and 1 on the first drive and Jackson not going right on the draw play that would have gotten 10-15 more yards. Those two plays alone cost us at least 6 more offensive plays. 

[Alford Bailey 13,228]

Even if you believe Allen was great 2-3 years ago you have to admit the program is struggling now. Talented coaches and players left and Allen has been unable to replace at the same level of competence.

[Hoosierfan2017 25,030]

2 minutes ago, btownqb said:

hmmm ok.. so in detail, and not emotion-filled BS, tell me what the issues were with WB from Saturday? 

Again, use the film.. and go into detail. 

I'll post the videos for you. 

 

 

Personally, I just think a bunch of you ***** to ***** and there isn't much substance behind it. 

 

I will admit.. I was pretty pissed when we didn't punt with 40-50 secs to go in the half when we were down 7-3. I would have punted there, pinned them... you go into the half down 4 and OSU has zero momentum. 

We’ve lost 15 of our last 17 conference games and just put up a measly 153 yards of offense last Saturday. We played a game plan designed to avoid getting blown out, not a game plan designed to win, which is gross to see in year 7 of a coach’s tenure. Not all of us were “pretty pleased” by that performance. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 12,078]

5 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

We’ve lost 15 of our last 17 conference games and just put up a measly 153 yards of offense last Saturday. We played a game plan designed to avoid getting blown out, not a game plan designed to win, which is gross to see in year 7 of a coach’s tenure. Not all of us were “pretty pleased” by that performance. 

You didn't give me any details about what WB did wrong Saturday.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 12,078]

I found another time I was pretty pissed, not sure who's fault it was exactly.... 4th and 2 on OSU's first offensive drive.... 

I thought it was obvious as soon as OSU motioned their H back, they would create some sort of boot action and try and the H back the ball in the flat. That is around "2:40" in the first video. 

***sorry I guess it wasn't a boot, but it was PA, and the H back just ran a simple arrow in the flat and we had absolutely no one close. That play pissed me off.