IU Basketball News and Notes

[Home Jersey]

7 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

This is concerning to me.  #ballingonabudget.  See how it worked out for Marquette. We are going to need strong contributors off the bat to compete.  And it will be hard keep guys that don’t play.  I guess we will see

I think the main difference with Marquette is Shaka literally didn't go to the portal at all for this team, whereas for us, the majority of the contributors on next year's team have to come from the portal.

If we get 5 guys, and they're the right guys, could be a good team. Hopefully we are aggressive and get some studs. And hopefully Carr can help identify some good value players with multiple years of eligibility. 

[Jeff Flabjohns]

Yea, the cupboard isn’t as bare this time because it couldn’t possibly be.

We can be fine putting 90% of our remaining NIL allotment to five new faces. If you pick the right guys then 3-4 should be serious contributors. Dorn, Miles, Harris, Sisley could all stay, or even 3/4 hopefully. + the incoming freshmen.

We paid a lot this year to dudes who are either underperforming immensely (third of the budget to Tucker + Bailey) or just not contributing at all. 

[Home Jersey]

2 minutes ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

Yea, the cupboard isn’t as bare this time because it couldn’t possibly be.

We can be fine putting 90% of our remaining NIL allotment to five new faces. If you pick the right guys 3-4 could be serious contributors. Dorn, Miles, Harris, Sisley could all stay, or even 3/4 hopefully. + the incoming freshmen.

We paid a lot this year to dudes who are either underperforming immensely or just not contributing at all. 

Yep, for sure. Not as bare as literally 0 players and a lot of money tied up with seniors not producing as expected. And seems very unlikely we need to set aside much (if any) NIL for retention raises. Maybe Sisley.

I think I saw it posted here somewhere that our Euro guys are actually very low cost. If that's the case, and they're content with the development plan DDV laid out for them, I think they'd be worth retaining. 

We have 3 open spots, so to get to 5, two need to transfer. If the Euros really are cheap enough, you probably free up more NIL parting ways with Drake and Harris. Harris might be able to do something for us when healthy, but who knows. Drake probably isn't making much NIL, but Ristic also has been basically invisible this year. Either way it's probably not much, but every dollar counts.

Very curious how it shakes out but confident that the money can be put to much better use this time around. Hopefully some underclassmen in the mix. 

[HoosierDevils]

I think this article from just earlier today discusses the gaps in the roster that has allowed teams to settle in defensively and make IU's offense really stagnant. It's not just related to athleticism, but also just skills the current roster lacks to get around switching (see: vs. Lindenwood and vs. Incarnate Word).

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/the-red-flags-for-iu-basketballs-offense-showed-up-in-early-season-buy-games/

 

[BGleas]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

This is concerning to me.  #ballingonabudget.  See how it worked out for Marquette. We are going to need strong contributors off the bat to compete.  And it will be hard keep guys that don’t play.  I guess we will see

Yeah, the free agency comparison sounds good in theory, but it is a different mindset. 

We're probably taking Carr's comments on that too literally and seriously. 

But for the sake of discussion, the portal is a bit different. In the NBA you might have the salay cap space to sign one impact free agent every few seasons. You're really supplementing your roster around the edges most years. 

I'm college, the portal needs to be game-changers most every season. You now supplement your roster with high school recruits and land the impact players in the portal. 

[Uspshoosier]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

See how it worked out for Marquette

Smart just flat refused to use the portal at all.    His mindset was build from within and only use high school kids.   Sounds like they are changing their stance on the portal (shocker).  During one of the games I was watching the sideline reporter was reporting that a total shift in how they recruited moving forward was going to change 

[AZ Hoosier]

5 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

This is concerning to me.  #ballingonabudget.  See how it worked out for Marquette. We are going to need strong contributors off the bat to compete.  And it will be hard keep guys that don’t play.  I guess we will see

I don't have an issue with a "moneyball" approach... but we need serviceable talent at all positions, and some depth at a minimum. Paying top dollar for individual pieces that don't mesh or gel into a team is not the answer. We did that for 3 or 4 years with the previous guy. And we definitely need a guy that can coach 'em up. Again, that was lacking previously... and, frankly, I've got some questions about some of the coaching moves this season, as well.

[str8baller]

40 minutes ago, BGleas said:

You now supplement your roster with high school recruits and land the impact players in the portal. 

Purdue, Duke, even Arizona are building through recruiting. Some long term dev like Purdue others with high profile frosh.  It can still be done. We’llprobably be closer to Purdue.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

5 hours ago, str8baller said:

Purdue, Duke, even Arizona are building through recruiting. Some long term dev like Purdue others with high profile frosh.  It can still be done. We’llprobably be closer to Purdue.

I think the Purdue model is likely the ideal plan for Carr and DeVries.  For that to work, you gotta scout, develop, and coach your @$$ off. Painter has proven proficient at all 3.  
 

I don’t hate it. I kinda like it. But DeVries isn’t Painter and we are Indiana and should be able to double the NIL of Purdue allowing us to build something a little different.  Hopefully these smart basketball minds can come together and figure things out. You need 10.  8 Healthy and ready to go. Invest in 8-10 and fill with super low cost back end pieces. It’ll help in team chemistry as well with every player having a piece of the pie.  
 

Even though Carr has my dream job and has 25 years of experience I’m still auditioning for the part and convinced I can help.  lol.