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Because we know what has worked at IU and what it took to win here.  we have seen what going away from the IU way has done the last 20 years and it has not worked.

We have never had an “IU guy” I get tired of hearing this weak take. Knight was not an IU guy and his style of play has come and gone. The closest thing we had was Mike Davis, who knew what had been done at IU, and they didn’t pan out too well.

We don’t need an IU guys or a this type of guy. We just need a guy who can win. I don’t care who he is or what style he prefers as long as he wins. Someone that can adapt, not all coaching styles work in every league or every division. He has to be able to adapt and be able to see what will work and execute that game plan and get his players to buy in and execute that game plan.


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This thread has officially started to resemble this scene.
"So you want a young coach who could be here 25 years, but who's already had years of tournament success at a major P5 program, who runs a clean program and graduates players but is also willing to play in the gray area, who has NBA connections but also knows every Indiana high school coach, but doesn't JUST recruit Indiana, and who also - and this is crucial - somehow both is and isn't a former IU player?"
Us: "Yeah!"

.......I mean.......Bradley Stevens meets (or will meet) most of these conditions. Ugh!

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25 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Not at all.  Beard’s dream job is Texas and they have money to burn.  

There will be pros and cons for every candidate in every coaching search. But is it normal to feel like every single candidate has a HUGE caveat? Beard could leave at any time for Texas, Musselman could leave any time for the NBA, Beilein - age and the thugs comment, Matta has massive health concerns, Drew wanted to deport a former player of ours, Altman has character concerns, Alford isn't very good at coaching. 

It's still Oats at the top of the list for me. The biggest caveat I can think of for him is that he seems like the least likely candidate for us to approach, for reasons that I couldn't even begin to explain (the $12M buyout should not be an issue with the $$ we were planning on throwing at Stevens). 

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39 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Izzo, Boheim, Roy Williams were all hired by power conference teams without HC experience

Yep.  But that small sample size doesn't sway me.  Pass.

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1 minute ago, Nonymouse said:

The scheduled flight from White Plains (where Woodson lives) to Bloomington never took off. Still scheduled though. Weird.  

Very curious to see if it takes off after the game tonight if Woodson coaches.... Or did you mean never left from Bloomington

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45 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Most jobs don't need degrees. Just training. You don't need a degree to coach basketball. Plain and simple. Just crappy ways to get a lot of money by schools. 

I believe that the head coach at IU and other institutions are expected to teach a few courses.  That would require a degree.

 

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42 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

What worked at IU was having one of the best college coaches of all-time leading the program for three decades. I honestly don't know what the "IU way" even means or why it would require hiring an IU guy to get. IU guys aren't the only coaches out there who could get players to play the way we want them to play.

I think what most people that want a IU guy are trying to say is that they came through the program when it was a winner and think that they have emotional attachment to the program and maybe more invested in it to try to get it back there. Kinda like if you opened up a store and grew it up real nice and handed it off to your buddy to run and it started to go down hill, don’t you think you would be able to go back and get it going again?

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2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan222 said:

I have never heard of a head basketball coach teaching classes at a major university. That is definitely not part of the job description.

Know that Knight taught classes, usually how to be a coach or Xs and Os type classes.  Know this is dating me be when I was at IU I had a PE class taught by Lou Watson, who was the IU coach at the time.  It is all part of being part of the faculty.

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12 minutes ago, Hoosierfan222 said:

Very curious to see if it takes off after the game tonight if Woodson coaches.... Or did you mean never left from Bloomington

It’s scheduled to go from  NY to Bloomington and never left. 

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8 minutes ago, Hoosierfan222 said:

I have never heard of a head basketball coach teaching classes at a major university. That is definitely not part of the job description.

At IU it is part of the job. I used to know a girl who had Jerry Yeagley as a prof.

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I’m not sure if this is a thing anymore because I’ve never heard of a coach teaching classes but all of those guys were before my time.

 

That being said, then being basketball coaches qualifies them to teach classes about coaching. I don’t think a college degree does that lol

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8 minutes ago, Hoosierfan222 said:

I have never heard of a head basketball coach teaching classes at a major university. That is definitely not part of the job description.

What difference does it make?  Every coach we are interested in have at least a bachelors degree.

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2 minutes ago, BottomLine said:

What difference does it make?  Every coach we are interested in have at least a bachelors degree.

It’s not about any specific candidate, it’s more about how absolute nonsensical it is to think having a bachelors degree makes you more qualified to be a basketball coach than someone who doesn’t. There are plenty of good coaches who’ve been around the game for 30 years and don’t have one. 
 

 

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1 minute ago, Hoosierfan222 said:

I’m not sure if this is a thing anymore because I’ve never heard of a coach teaching classes but all of those guys were before my time.

 

That being said, then being basketball coaches qualifies them to teach classes about coaching. I don’t think a college degree does that lol

Maybe you've never heard of it, but it is.

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