NCAA MBB Transfer Portal

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Just now, RaceToTheTop said:

Tyson is such a strange case.  Highly ranked recruit.  Only got mop up minutes his freshman year at Texas.  Transferred to Texas Tech, had a decent year....and now transferring again.  This will be his third team in three years so he would need to get a waiver from the NCAA, I believe.  But he's talented.

Transferring like that could be a red flag too so a staff would have to do their homework.

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1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Is this Instagram stuff like a Polaroid 60-second camera?

More like the Kodak Instamatic camera. I quit using those years ago.

[NashvilleHoosier 3,778]

32 minutes ago, btownqb said:

I don't think Little 5 is the best time to host recruits. 

Might be right. Could actually scare some away that just want to hoop.

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1 hour ago, btownqb said:

I can't see any sort of advantage Indiana would have over Ark/Tenn in recruiting. Bama, maybe. 

Obviously,  it’ll all be kid specific, but…. 
 

First and foremost we’re a basketball school. If you care about attention, popularity and things like that (not all kids do), you’ll never be anything but 2nd fiddle at a football school. For all the kvetching about football money, and some of it warranted, Duke, Ucla, unc, Kentucky, kansas, uconn, Arizona, etc… bring in the lion’s share of the talent.  The NIL’s largely should reflect that, too.  
 

Currently…playing time. Any good perimeter players, with maybe the exception of a really small pg-type, should step into 20-30min of playing time.  
 

The “NBA thing”, which I generally find overrated but I’m not a 20yr old kid with pro basketball aspirations. Musselman and Barnes are perfectly fine, but Woddy’s NBA resume is much longer and he has a handful of popular pro players that willingly talk about how great he is. 
 

We just beat out Arkansas for the #2 recruit in the portal, so it’d be interesting to see what he has to say. 

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Just now, NashvilleHoosier said:

Might be right. Could actually scare some away that just want to hoop.

True, and just scheduling everything would be more difficult, plus... the kids we would be using to host (our current players) would probably prefer to just "do their own thing that weekend", as opposed to being a chauffeur. Just my opinion. 

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2 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Yes.  He was a top 2 player on a terrible Butler team. He was solid but unspectacular.  I do think in the right system he can start and provide good impact.  The 10-11 is probably exaggerated but I find it hard seeing him a starter in on a top tier team.  But then again, that can be said for Purdue’s guards too.  Put him on a team like that he might go wild.  

Miller Kopp was a starter on a 4 seed.  Simas is better than Kopp.  Point is, players like Simas are starters are some pretty good teams when they fill roles.  Not many teams start five spectacular players.

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40 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

I have seen a bunch of twits on this site and others the last two days

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1 hour ago, reconmkd said:

I glad this site is not devolving to what is being said on Twitter. CJ Fredrick is the portal and the twits on Twitter are groveling over the staff going after him, prioritize him. Omg no, I'm work with a ton of pUKe fans and they couldn't stand it when he played. 6ppg, 31.8% from 3 last year. Didn't play defense and stood in the corner waiting for a pass. Please no!

Correct in that he doesn't play defense.  But you could say that the 32% was more indicative of Cal's use of him than of Frederick's ability to shoot.  I don't any player who played in both the 2019-20 and 2020-21 season shot a higher percentage from three than he did (83 of 178 -- 47%).  Even with the down shooting last season, he's a career 41% shooter from three.

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1 minute ago, str8baller said:

Obviously,  it’ll all be kid specific, but…. 
 

First and foremost we’re a basketball school. If you care about attention, popularity and things like that (not all kids do), you’ll never be anything but 2nd fiddle at a football school. For all the kvetching about football money, and some of it warranted, Duke, Ucla, unc, Kentucky, kansas, uconn, Arizona, etc… bring in the lion’s share of the talent.  The NIL’s largely should reflect that, too.  
 

Currently…playing time. Any good perimeter players, with maybe the exception of a really small pg-type, should step into 20-30min of playing time.  
 

The “NBA thing”, which I generally find overrated but I’m not a 20yr old kid with pro basketball aspirations. Musselman and Barnes are perfectly fine, but Woddy’s NBA resume is much longer and he has a handful of popular pro players that willingly talk about how great he is. 
 

We just beat out Arkansas for the #2 recruit in the portal, so it’d be interesting to see what he has to say. 

The bold isn't real. Maybe in the 80s that was a factor, but you realize Ark and Tenn BOTH avg more fans at home games than we do? A complete farce that these kids are treated as a second fiddle at schools like Tennessee+Ark... again, maybe in the 80s that was reality, but it isn't now. 

Tennesse+Ark both had a ton of playing time to sell. NBA-- yes Indiana trumps Tennessee there, more of an equal playing field with Ark. 

We did not beat out Arkansas for Ware. 

 

I still don't see any sort of advantage IU has. 

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3 minutes ago, btownqb said:

True, and just scheduling everything would be more difficult, plus... the kids we would be using to host (our current players) would probably prefer to just "do their own thing that weekend", as opposed to being a chauffeur. Just my opinion. 

It's also a really big AAU weekend, so while that doesn't impact transfer visits, it does impact hs recruit visits and also probably has our staff on the road and not on campus. 

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3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Miller Kopp was a starter on a 4 seed.  Simas is better than Kopp.  Point is, players like Simas are starters are some pretty good teams when they fill roles.  Not many teams start five spectacular players.

Hmm.. good point. I like it. 

He can score in a variety of ways, and he does a good job creating for others. 

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Just now, BGleas said:

It's also a really big AAU weekend, so while that doesn't impact transfer visits, it does impact hs recruit visits and also probably has our staff on the road and not on campus. 

And that probably trumps anything I've mentioned. Good call. 

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18 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I'd be good with CJ Frederick as a "back of the rotation if he can stay healthy" guy.

If he is healthy sign me up. I'd rather see him take around 15 minutes a game next year than CJ Gunn...nothing against CJ but he is all based on potential. I was listening to an NFL Draft podcast yesterday and heard a former coach say "Potential gets you fired." 

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1 minute ago, Ngw7183 said:

Nah, better guys than him already in portal. Nobody would even look at him without Kentucky and Big ties. Do they get a back of rotation shooter. Yeah, if they can’t get 3 dogs but why do it now. 

Not that we are going to get for the 3rd schollie, who could also be your 5th guard, at best 4th. 

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1 minute ago, btownqb said:

 

We did not beat out Arkansas for Ware. 

 

 

If you don't think we beat Arkansas for Ware, you don't know his history.  He is from Slippery Rock.  He was recruiting by Arkansas out of high school and the only reason he didn't go to Arkansas was the assistant he got close to was hired by Oregon.  Musselman would have loved to have Ware.

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2 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Not that we are going to get for the 3rd schollie, who could also be your 5th guard, at best 4th. 

At this point, Frederick is a career 41% three point shooter and C.J. Gunn is a 9% one.  Gunn may or may not develop, but if a guy is knocking down shots he will find court time.

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3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

If you don't think we beat Arkansas for Ware, you don't know his history.  He is from Slippery Rock.  He was recruiting by Arkansas out of high school and the only reason he didn't go to Arkansas was the assistant he got close to was hired by Oregon.  Musselman would have loved to have Ware.

"I don't know his history" --- I know that Arkansas wasn't recruiting him and Bama was. 

We did not beat out Ark for Ware, maybe Oregon did last year? I have no clue. I know where he is from. 

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2 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

At this point, Frederick is a career 41% three point shooter and C.J. Gunn is a 9% one.  Gunn may or may not develop, but if a guy is knocking down shots he will find court time.

I would have zero problems with CJF as your 3rd schollie. I'm not sure what your point here about CJ has to do with what I posted. I don't think Gunn is a rotational player next season. 

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Just now, Ngw7183 said:

We agree on a lot but not this. Really look at the portal and go through the hundreds there. Lots better than him already there drawing no interest.

Nahh.. not in the role we would be asking him to play. You aren't just getting any and everyone to come here and be a 2nd/3rd PG with maybe 8-12 mins for you a game.

If you got CJ to sign up for that role, along with adding a Deloach and more of a top-tier wing... that's a great portal haul. 

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7 minutes ago, btownqb said:

The bold isn't real. Maybe in the 80s that was a factor, but you realize Ark and Tenn BOTH avg more fans at home games than we do? A comp

Of course it’s real. It’s why basketball schools continue to win championships and Arkansas and tenessee are….well, Arkansas and Tennessee.   Villanova, Uconn, and Duke barely even have football teams and put Tenn’s and Arkansas’ recruiting and level of success to shame. 
 

 

Average attendance…. Sure, but they have much bigger stadiums. We beat Tenn in % of seats filled every year.  We beat Tenn  in percentage of seats filled when we had awful seasons under Archie and Crean. That’s historically true of Arkansas too but they have some fair weather fans that do come out when they’re good like the last couple of years. 
 

Lies, dammed lies, and statistics…. and all that.