If IU loses to Rutgers...

[cappymo14 2,276]

I look at the games they have played without G. Baker and thy haven’t looked like world beaters. They have survived mostly due to random career nights from supporting cast members. They do some things well. Defense is adequate, and they rebound well. Like us, they want to play inside out. Also like us, Thayer have long scoreless stretches and only put up 50 in a win over Illinois. With Baker I’d be worried, not too much without. Our losses haven’t been all just effort related, we’ve also gotten handled in part because the oppositions strengths were matched up in specific areas where IU was weak. I don’t see unfavorable matchups here though.


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[LIHoosier 26,204]

I look at the games they have played without G. Baker and thy haven’t looked like world beaters. They have survived mostly due to random career nights from supporting cast members.

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Unfortunately this team has specialized in allowing random career highs from guys that are normally the 6th or 7th option.

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[WayneFleekHoosier 48,375]

I expect 1-1 this week. 0-2 wouldn’t shock me. Yet in the prediction thread I pick 2-0 this week.

Lol. I hope Indiana doesn’t remind me how bad we suck on the road this week.


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[HoosierDYT 1,748]

Got to get 1 of the next 2. Will be tough

[coonhounds 8,941]

I expect to lose am hoping we win. 0 for 2 this week puts us in a tough spot cause then we have two tough home games. Let's get both these winnable games to be in great shape

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[HoosierRobbie 929]

It’s sad to say, but i expect to lose this game, Rutgers is actually pretty good this year (especially at home) and we are terrible on the road.


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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,674]

We just can’t lose to Nebraska. As of now they are 157 in the NET rankings. Rutgers is 30 and would be a good Quad 1 win. But Nebraska would just be an awful loss right now. Especially if we lose tonight.


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[Iugradman 4,457]

6 hours ago, Aaron said:

I understand wanting to be good, but at some point when teams like Rutgers and Penn State get good it creates a bad state where the Big Ten cannibalizes each other. Its sort of like a communist economy which doesn't work and why we need a capitalist economy with haves and have nots.

 

This doesn’t make any sense. Why should Penn State and Rutgers have to be bad forever? Should they not try to be competitive? Should IU football stink eternally so Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State can have a guaranteed win? The rich shouldn’t be assured of staying rich just because they have been rich in the past.

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,225]

I won't be happy, but like every other win or loss, I might comment on what I think they did wrong or right. Then Life goes on and I won't be upset or on cloud 9 fir days on end

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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,225]

This doesn’t make any sense. Why should Penn State and Rutgers have to be bad forever? Should they not try to be competitive? Should IU football stink eternally so Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State can have a guaranteed win? The rich shouldn’t be assured of staying rich just because they have been rich in the past.

I actually like a post from Gradman

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[RaceToTheTop 25,789]

6 hours ago, cappymo14 said:

I look at the games they have played without G. Baker and thy haven’t looked like world beaters. They have survived mostly due to random career nights from supporting cast members. They do some things well. Defense is adequate, and they rebound well. Like us, they want to play inside out. Also like us, Thayer have long scoreless stretches and only put up 50 in a win over Illinois. With Baker I’d be worried, not too much without. Our losses haven’t been all just effort related, we’ve also gotten handled in part because the oppositions strengths were matched up in specific areas where IU was weak. I don’t see unfavorable matchups here though.


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Without Baker, they won at Nebraska by 17, beat Penn State at Rutgers by 11 and lost at Illinois by 3.  I think if we go 2-1 with two road games and one home game and win two by double digits, I think we'd say that was more than just surviving.  That's a result we'd take.

Baker is an 11 point/game scorer who doesn't well from the perimeter....facilitates okay but also has shot them out of more games in his career than he's shot them into.  He's okay, IMO, and it hurts them more depth wise.

[RaceToTheTop 25,789]

Bad shot selection by Durham out of the gate.  Bad timeout by Rutgers.....swing the ball and get your damn shoe on.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,674]

This doesn’t make any sense. Why should Penn State and Rutgers have to be bad forever? Should they not try to be competitive? Should IU football stink eternally so Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State can have a guaranteed win? The rich shouldn’t be assured of staying rich just because they have been rich in the past.

Well honestly, college basketball better when there are teams who suck and there are teams who are great. With a bit in the middle. As for the Big Ten, having Penn State and Rutgers good at basketball doesn’t do anything for you when Indiana isn’t good. Indiana is going to make a ton of money no matter what, but the media pull of a good Indiana teams greatly outweighs what a good PSU and Rutgers team can combined. It is also best for a conference to have clear cut tiers. Sure the numbers are best to look at this year, but it’s been pretty boring with how predictable it has been. So yea, I’d say having PSU and Rutgers just suck would be better. But a program like Indiana also has to get back to being great. Ideally, the B1G would have Michigan State and Indiana. Follow that with tier 2 of Ohio State, Michigan, Maryland and Purdue. Followed by tier 3 of Wisconsin, Illinois, Minnesota and Iowa. Then tier 4 of Rutgers, Nebraska, Northwestern and Penn State.


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[iu-dl 1,470]

I'm getting many texts from other fans and friends which carry a lot of finger pointing. From CAM, to players, to lack of leadership. Personally, I see some flaws in all three of those areas. I don't think CAM is doing a poor job; he can't make our guys shoot better once the game starts and he is clearly managing the game the best he can. He got t'd up last night; he benched DG after a sloppy turnover; he uses time outs effectively (something CTC never learned, ever). That's the type of stuff I, as a more X&0 type of fan, like seeing. I struggle with our guard play - who wouldn't - and the fact that seniors can provide zero production. That statement; when guards and seniors don't show up, is what kills us ultimately. Our seniors are not leaders, and our youth isn't ready to lead IMO. RP isn't Yogi although he has a similar task. When our guards play well, we can beat anyone, anywhere. Laugh if you will, but I believe it.  We embarrassed FSU and OSU. Both are incredibly talented teams, and we did it both times with consistent guard play. It really opens the court up for us and we don't have to solely rely in TJD. It's a shame someone can't step up and provide that for us consistently from a guard perspective. Aside from that, look at the scoreboard last night...the NCAA is a crapshoot right now. UK, BU, IU, Auburn, PSU, VA, Creighton and Wichita State all lose. We're not alone here people. If we can keep pace and figure out how to get to 19 or 20, we're in a pretty good spot IMO. Other side notes: I don't need to see quite a few of our guys play anymore. Some of them just aren't good enough and they're proving that, repeatedly. "Shooters", can't shoot. "Leaders" aren't leading. Play the grit and heart guys; at least they give a ****.

[ElectricBoogaloo 4,307]

[Baltimore Hoosier 986]

Another game, another atrocious shooting night filled with unforced errors and horrible turnovers at the worst possible times. 

[Brass Cannon 24,801]

1 hour ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

Another game, another atrocious shooting night filled with unforced errors and horrible turnovers at the worst possible times. 

Hey give a little credit to our terrible shot selection.