Bracketology and Team Resumes

[Uspshoosier]

IU is still in good shape from a bracketology standpoint.   Illinois is under seeded right now because they have taken losses  without their full team.   In reality they are close to a 3 seed team.    IU just showed they are a 7-10 seeded team and not ready to compete for a B1G title.   IU got 1 elite team at home already and asking them to get Illinois and Wisky both to go along with Purdue was probably asking a little much for them.   Way more important games down the road then this Illinois game.  Losing to Illinois does nothing to hurt their resume.     Big one at Northwestern.  If you are a tourney team this is the type of game you should win 

[Hovadipo]

45 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

IU is still in good shape from a bracketology standpoint.   Illinois is under seeded right now because they have taken losses  without their full team.   In reality they are close to a 3 seed team.    IU just showed they are a 7-10 seeded team and not ready to compete for a B1G title.   IU got 1 elite team at home already and asking them to get Illinois and Wisky both to go along with Purdue was probably asking a little much for them.   Way more important games down the road then this Illinois game.  Losing to Illinois does nothing to hurt their resume.     Big one at Northwestern.  If you are a tourney team this is the type of game you should win 

What’s the prevailing thought on BTT wins for the resumé? I get the feeling those games might be important for us. Are they considered the same as a regular season neutral court win? Does a couple wins coming from the 7-10 range help get you in?

[Uspshoosier]

5 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

What’s the prevailing thought on BTT wins for the resumé? I get the feeling those games might be important for us. Are they considered the same as a regular season neutral court win? Does a couple wins coming from the 7-10 range help get you in?

BTT wins will count as neutral court wins.    It just gives IU a chance at more Q1 and Q2 wins if they need them.   If IU takes care of business and wins 4 more then those BTT games are more for seeding.  If IU falls apart down the stretch then those games will become important for iu 

[Hoosierfan1901]

I’m not really whining after this loss, since Illinois is beast and they definitely an 2/3 seed. If we lose to Northwestern, you probably won’t hear from me until the BTT

[RaceToTheTop]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

BTT wins will count as neutral court wins.    It just gives IU a chance at more Q1 and Q2 wins if they need them.   If IU takes care of business and wins 4 more then those BTT games are more for seeding.  If IU falls apart down the stretch then those games will become important for iu 

That's where I'm seeing at as well.  I also think (right now) the bubble is helped by what seems to be very few teams there are from one bid leagues that would make it as an at large if they lost their conference tournament.  Davidson would likely make the tournament.  Murray State.....maybe.  Iona -- probably not because pretty much any loss they took in the conference tournament would be a bad one.  New Mexico State only has three losses but they've had 3 victories over non-D1 so they are looked at as a 15-3, not 18-3 and only played three games against teams in the Pom top 100.

[RaceToTheTop]

One thing we do know.....Anfernee Hardaway isn't going to understand why his team isn't in the tournament.  And he should.

[Uspshoosier]

4 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

That's where I'm seeing at as well.  I also think (right now) the bubble is helped by what seems to be very few teams there are from one bid leagues that would make it as an at large if they lost their conference tournament.  Davidson would likely make the tournament.  Murray State.....maybe.  Iona -- probably not because pretty much any loss they took in the conference tournament would be a bad one.  New Mexico State only has three losses but they've had 3 victories over non-D1 so they are looked at as a 15-3, not 18-3 and only played three games against teams in the Pom top 100.

Yeah depending on the bubble IU could only win 3 more games and still sneak in and still not be last 4 in.  Bubble doesn’t look great.   One thing I do know is that IU doesn’t want to fall into the last 4 in category because the committee will leave them out based on their awful non con SOS.   

[RaceToTheTop]

3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Yeah depending on the bubble IU could only win 3 more games and still sneak in and still not be last 4 in.  Bubble doesn’t look great.   One thing I do know is that IU doesn’t want to fall into the last 4 in category because the committee will leave them out based on their awful non con SOS.   

You already know my opinion on that.....overall SOS is the true meaningful stat.  

Anyway, seems to be a lot of bubblish teams that aren't taking hold of the reigns.  Wyoming certainly has taken care of business.  Right now I think the MWC would get 3 teams in -- Wyoming, Colorado State, and Boise State.  Think San Diego State is going to suffer from beating the wrong teams on their schedule.  Utah State simply built too big of a hole.  But Utah State or San Diego State are capable of winning the conference tournament.

[RaceToTheTop]

USPS, what is your feeling on Oklahoma and West Virginia's current position resume wise?

[Uspshoosier]

8 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

USPS, what is your feeling on Oklahoma and West Virginia's current position resume wise?

Both need to start winning games.  Oklahoma is falling fast probably 9-10 range.     West Virginia was around the cut line before the home loss today so I would probably have them out as of now. 

[RaceToTheTop]

3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Both need to start winning games.  Oklahoma is falling fast probably 9-10 range.     West Virginia was around the cut line before the home loss today so I would probably have them out as of now. 

I'm not a fan of either resume, although I prefer West Virginia's.  Oklahoma FWIW is now coming up on the killer part of their conference schedule -- Texas Tech, at Kansas, Texas, at Iowa State, at Texas Tech.  Pom puts them as an underdog in all 5....they would do well to win 2 of the 5, which would put them at 15-13 overall.  Being swept by TCU is a killer for them -- plus the home loss to Butler earlier.

[Uspshoosier]

8 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

I'm not a fan of either resume, although I prefer West Virginia's.  Oklahoma FWIW is now coming up on the killer part of their conference schedule -- Texas Tech, at Kansas, Texas, at Iowa State, at Texas Tech.  Pom puts them as an underdog in all 5....they would do well to win 2 of the 5, which would put them at 15-13 overall.  Being swept by TCU is a killer for them -- plus the home loss to Butler earlier.

Yeah that’s a tough stretch but that’s also 5 chances at Q1 wins.   This is where teams in the power conferences have the advantage.  If Oklahoma gets hot and wins 4 of those then they shoot up the seed line.  Murray St has to avoid land mine losses that 1 slip up cost them heavily and only get to take advantage of maybe 1 or 2 Q1 opportunities in their conference.  

[Uspshoosier]

IU dropped 3 spots from 30 to 33 

Illinois only moved up 1 from 14 to 13 

 

Northwestern moved up 11 spots and now for now is a Q1 opportunity.    I’m guessing if IU wins Tuesday if will drop Northwestern to a Q2 the next day.    
 

This will all work itself out at the end 

IU at 16-6 is in good position when you compare them to teams that are currently near the cut line.   Despite all of their flaws they are sitting in a good spot heading into the final stretch.   IU’s last 12 games have shown an W W L pattern.   Since the Notre Dame game this has been the pattern.    IU could of been sitting 17-6 right now if that UNC Asheville game was played.  While winning against them wouldnt of been much it would of been an extra win to pad the win total.  I personally would of tried to schedule a game this last  week with any team that had a pulse just to play during the week 

[RaceToTheTop]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

IU dropped 3 spots from 30 to 33 

Illinois only moved up 1 from 14 to 13 

 

Northwestern moved up 11 spots and now for now is a Q1 opportunity.    I’m guessing if IU wins Tuesday if will drop Northwestern to a Q2 the next day.    
 

This will all work itself out at the end 

IU at 16-6 is in good position when you compare them to teams that are currently near the cut line.   Despite all of their flaws they are sitting in a good spot heading into the final stretch.   IU’s last 12 games have shown an W W L pattern.   Since the Notre Dame game this has been the pattern.    IU could of been sitting 17-6 right now if that UNC Asheville game was played.  While winning against them wouldnt of been much it would of been an extra win to pad the win total.  I personally would of tried to schedule a game this last  week with any team that had a pulse just to play during the week 

Was just about to put that about Northwestern.  Strange thing is that if IU were to barely beat them, they may remain a Q1 after the game, but if IU were to beat them by double digits, they’d be a Q2.

[HoosierAloha]

4 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Was just about to put that about Northwestern.  Strange thing is that if IU were to barely beat them, they may remain a Q1 after the game, but if IU were to beat them by double digits, they’d be a Q2.

Lets just play some good ball with some e and e then let the chips fall where they may. Q1 or Q2 doesn't really matter as much as getting wins to get us in the tourney.

[Hoosierfan1901]

Team rankings current projections:

Making the Tournament 

Before the game: 94%
After the loss: 88% 

Seeding

31 overall after the loss = 8 seed 

Bordering around the 7/8 seed, with a decent chance of a potential 6 seed spot (In terms of percentages)

Projecting that 20-22 will be good enough to be in it

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/indiana-hoosiers/bracketology/

[RaceToTheTop]

Wyoming at Fresno St should be a game of interest.  On FS1 in about an hour.

[HoosierAloha]

36 minutes ago, Hooserfan1901 said:

Team rankings current projections:

Making the Tournament 

Before the game: 94%
After the loss: 88% 

Seeding

31 overall after the loss = 8 seed 

Bordering around the 7/8 seed, with a decent chance of a potential 6 seed spot (In terms of percentages)

Projecting that 20-22 will be good enough to be in it

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/indiana-hoosiers/bracketology/

Would definitely like to stay off that 8/9 seed line. I like your decent chance of a potential 6 seed spot!

Decent change of a potential Sweet 16 too!

[Hoosierfan1901]

46 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Would definitely like to stay off that 8/9 seed line. I like your decent chance of a potential 6 seed spot!

Decent change of a potential Sweet 16 too!

I believe it was 24% yesterday, also saw a bracket where we could face UK in the S16

[Uspshoosier]

2 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Oh.....don't know about the foul call there.  Should have been Fresno ball.

Wrong thread