Bracketology and Team Resumes

[IU_FanClub 1,693]

St. John's up 16 at the half. If they win convincingly they could be a quad 2 win when we wake up tomorrow

[IU_FanClub 1,693]

Looked through the schedule of games this weekend and wrote down the bubbleish games and who we would want to win

[Uspshoosier 46,176]

4 minutes ago, IU_FanClub said:

Looked through the schedule of games this weekend and wrote down the bubbleish games and who we would want to win

Notre Dame game would be the biggest one on the list.    Double bonus points if Notre Dame wins it.   Wake is a bubble team so a home loss for them would hurt and if Notre Dame wins it that is  a big road win for them and the win will probably move to the Q1 area 

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1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Notre Dame game would be the biggest one on the list.    Double bonus points if Notre Dame wins it.   Wake is a bubble team so a home loss for them would hurt and if Notre Dame wins it that is a big road win for them and the win will probably move to the Q1 area 

It would be a huge weekend for us if we could get some of our wins moved up a quad and not even have to play and ruin all of our saturdays lol

[NashvilleHoosier 3,719]

5 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Bracketology currently has the #3 seeds as Nova, Wisconsin, Texas Tech, and Providence. 

Clear to me that if we were in and played them we would have a real chance against at least two of those teams.

Sure. I was only commenting on the fact that Tenn has improved quite a bit offensively. 

[Uspshoosier 46,176]

Top 16 

the top overall will be between Auburn and Zags. Whoever they pick will give a little insight on what they value more this year.  Zags dominate the predictive metrics and Auburn has the better results based metrics and better wins.   I’m going with Auburn 

1. Auburn  

2. Zags 

3. Zona 

4. Kansas 

5. Baylor 

6. Purdue 

7. Kentucky 

8. Nova 

9.  Texas Tech 

10.  Wisky 

11. Tennessee 

12.  Providence 

13. Duke 

14.  Illinois 

15.  UCLA 

16.   Texas 

Houston, Ohio St, Bama, And LSU  I looked at also.     Houston doesn’t have the wins and I predict committee will be more results based.  If Houston is in the top 16 then committee is high on the predictive side of things.   Bama would of easily made the top 16 if they didn’t have 2 bad losses and they still might be depending on how committee views the resume.  They have 7 Q1 wins and 5 Q2 wins which is the good but also have 2 Q4 losses.
 

  I’m really confident these 16 will be the ones you see tomorrow but I’m excited to see what the committee is thinking 

[RaceToTheTop 26,221]

St. John’s destroyed Butler.  Likely moves them to a quad 2 win for us.

[RaceToTheTop 26,221]

3 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

Top 16 

the top overall will be between Auburn and Zags. Whoever they pick will give a little insight on what they value more this year.  Zags dominate the predictive metrics and Auburn has the better results based metrics and better wins.   I’m going with Auburn 

1. Auburn  

2. Zags 

3. Zona 

4. Kansas 

5. Baylor 

6. Purdue 

7. Kentucky 

8. Nova 

9.  Texas Tech 

10.  Wisky 

11. Tennessee 

12.  Providence 

13. Duke 

14.  Illinois 

15.  UCLA 

16.   Texas 

Houston, Ohio St, Bama, And LSU  I looked at also.     Houston doesn’t have the wins and I predict committee will be more results based.  If Houston is in the top 16 then committee is high on the predictive side of things.   Bama would of easily made the top 16 if they didn’t have 2 bad losses and they still might be depending on how committee views the resume.  They have 7 Q1 wins and 5 Q2 wins which is the good but also have 2 Q4 losses.
 

  I’m really confident these 16 will be the ones you see tomorrow but I’m excited to see what the committee is thinking 

My first attempt at it....I'm no USPS.

1.  Auburn

2.  Gonzaga

3.  Kansas

4.  Arizona

5.  Purdue

6.  Baylor

7.  Kentucky

8. Villanova

9. Wisconsin

10. Providence

11. Tennessee

12.  Texas Tech

13.  Duke

14. UCLA

15. Illinois

16. Alabama

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One I considered that USPS didn't was USC.

[Southside 1,914]

14 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

The PAC 12 does have a boatload of natty's in other sports besides basketball in the past 30 years. I believe that is part of reasoning. Although, it's quite difficult to determine his reasoning for most things unless you're in a special state of mind. What's your name again?

In the two biggest sports, CFB and CBB, they only a few NCs in either if we're talking about the last 30 years. 

PAC has really dropped off. Now if you want to talk Water Polo and Beach Volleyball, than sure lol.. 

 

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

21 minutes ago, Southside said:

In the two biggest sports, CFB and CBB, they only a few NCs in either if we're talking about the last 30 years. 

PAC has really dropped off. Now if you want to talk Water Polo and Beach Volleyball, than sure lol.. 

 

I'd love to talk volleyball and other sports but we're in the wrong thread. (love the gif!!!)

[IU_FanClub 1,693]

St John’s up to 68 in the net. Quad 2 win. For us not playing we’ve had an awesome last 2 days. Hope it continues tomorrow.

[Uspshoosier 46,176]

16 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

Top 16 

the top overall will be between Auburn and Zags. Whoever they pick will give a little insight on what they value more this year.  Zags dominate the predictive metrics and Auburn has the better results based metrics and better wins.   I’m going with Auburn 

1. Auburn  

2. Zags 

3. Zona 

4. Kansas 

5. Baylor 

6. Purdue 

7. Kentucky 

8. Nova 

9.  Texas Tech 

10.  Wisky 

11. Tennessee 

12.  Providence 

13. Duke 

14.  Illinois 

15.  UCLA 

16.   Texas 

Houston, Ohio St, Bama, And LSU  I looked at also.     Houston doesn’t have the wins and I predict committee will be more results based.  If Houston is in the top 16 then committee is high on the predictive side of things.   Bama would of easily made the top 16 if they didn’t have 2 bad losses and they still might be depending on how committee views the resume.  They have 7 Q1 wins and 5 Q2 wins which is the good but also have 2 Q4 losses.
 

  I’m really confident these 16 will be the ones you see tomorrow but I’m excited to see what the committee is thinking 

No problem with Zags number 1 overall.   Duke as a 2 is the one I don’t agree with.   They have a Q3 home loss.  

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,713]

Iowa loses to Ohio State today and they'll be 0-7 in Q1 games... So they'll somehow move up in the NET. 

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54 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Iowa loses to Ohio State today and they'll be 0-7 in Q1 games... So they'll somehow move up in the NET. 

Probably by 15 spots

[RaceToTheTop 26,221]

Surprised they have Illinois over Wisconsin.  I want to say that means they are looking at being more predictive, but Houston not being in the top sixteen would say differently.  Duke at 8 I can't understand at all as I can't find any metric that has them there -- NET 12, KenPom 10, KPI 15.  Villanova is ahead of Duke in all three metrics.

I will say if IU is 10 seed and Duke is a 2 across from them, that would be an excellent draw.

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3 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Surprised they have Illinois over Wisconsin.  I want to say that means they are looking at being more predictive, but Houston not being in the top sixteen would say differently.  Duke at 8 I can't understand at all as I can't find any metric that has them there -- NET 12, KenPom 10, KPI 15.  Villanova is ahead of Duke in all three metrics.

I will say if IU is 10 seed and Duke is a 2 across from them, that would be an excellent draw.

That would be a horrid draw. TJD would absolutely shrink against Williams. 

 

[TheWatShot 14,200]

5 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Surprised they have Illinois over Wisconsin.  I want to say that means they are looking at being more predictive, but Houston not being in the top sixteen would say differently.  Duke at 8 I can't understand at all as I can't find any metric that has them there -- NET 12, KenPom 10, KPI 15.  Villanova is ahead of Duke in all three metrics.

I will say if IU is 10 seed and Duke is a 2 across from them, that would be an excellent draw.

I think we'd get run out of the gym by Duke. I've seen them play a few times this year, and each time I felt like I was watching a team going double speed compared to watching IU. 

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Just now, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

That would be a horrid draw. TJD would absolutely shrink against Williams. 

 

If you are a 10 seed, you are pretty much guaranteed to play 7 and then 2.  The current 2's are Baylor, Kentucky, Purdue and Duke.  Certainly not saying IU would be favored in any of those matchups by a long shot, but I'd take my chances against Duke rather than Baylor, Kentucky, or Purdue.

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3 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

I think we'd get run out of the gym by Duke. I've seen them play a few times this year, and each time I felt like I was watching a team going double speed compared to watching IU. 

Duke is 140th in tempo.  And their four losses are to teams 150th in tempo or lower.  In ACC games they scored under 70 as many times as they've scored over 80.  IMO, they are a good 4 seed or okay 3.  They aren't a 2.

[Uspshoosier 46,176]

32 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Surprised they have Illinois over Wisconsin.  I want to say that means they are looking at being more predictive, but Houston not being in the top sixteen would say differently.  Duke at 8 I can't understand at all as I can't find any metric that has them there -- NET 12, KenPom 10, KPI 15.  Villanova is ahead of Duke in all three metrics.

I will say if IU is 10 seed and Duke is a 2 across from them, that would be an excellent draw.

Duke got the 2 seed because of the wins against Kentucky and Gonzaga.   The Q3 loss for me put them a seed lower which I thought the committee would do.  Good information moving forward.  My guess on Illinois being over Wisconsin was that since they were close together they used head-to-head as the deciding factor