str8baller Posted Monday at 06:36 PM Posted Monday at 06:36 PM 19 wins and similar metrics is what we had last year and got left out, but every year is different. We have the worst Q1 record among bubble teams. OSU is second worst at 2-10 but their Q2 record is better. Win out and put an extra win in the BTT on top of it and I’d feel pretty good about sneaking in. I hate that Purdue is our only real good win. I’ll begrudgingly be rooting for them from here on out, I guess. Quote
Stuhoo Posted Monday at 06:51 PM Posted Monday at 06:51 PM 12 minutes ago, str8baller said: 19 wins and similar metrics is what we had last year and got left out, but every year is different. We have the worst Q1 record among bubble teams. OSU is second worst at 2-10 but their Q2 record is better. Win out and put an extra win in the BTT on top of it and I’d feel pretty good about sneaking in. I hate that Purdue is our only real good win. I’ll begrudgingly be rooting for them from here on out, I guess. Generally agree, but... Wisconsin is also a darn good win; by selection Sunday may be about the same as Puredoo. Win out and put a BTT tourney win with it and that's 20 wins and IMO 100% in and likely not last four in. Under any and all circumstances DO NOT root for Puredoo! IU needs to win some games. If we do the rest will take care of itsself. Quote
str8baller Posted Monday at 07:04 PM Posted Monday at 07:04 PM 4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Wisconsin is also a darn good win; by selection Sunday may be about the same as Puredoo. I don’t follow NET enough to understand it very well, but currently Purdue is 9th and Wisconsin is 32nd. A similar gap exists on Kenpom even though my “eye test” would have them much closer together. Ideally Wisconsin would climb to 30 and give us another Q1 win and we beat OSU adding another one. We would improve from 2-11 to 4-11 in Q1 games in that scenario. Hopefully that would be enough. Quote
Stuhoo Posted Monday at 07:11 PM Posted Monday at 07:11 PM 6 minutes ago, str8baller said: I don’t follow NET enough to understand it very well, but currently Purdue is 9th and Wisconsin is 32nd. A similar gap exists on Kenpom even though my “eye test” would have them much closer together. Ideally Wisconsin would climb to 30 and give us another Q1 win and we beat OSU adding another one. We would improve from 2-11 to 4-11 in Q1 games in that scenario. Hopefully that would be enough. After Puredoo loses to both Northwestern and then at home to Wisconsin that will change quite a bit. ;) Quote
Uspshoosier Posted Monday at 07:11 PM Author Posted Monday at 07:11 PM 31 minutes ago, str8baller said: 19 wins and similar metrics is what we had last year and got left out, but every year is different. We have the worst Q1 record among bubble teams. OSU is second worst at 2-10 but their Q2 record is better. IU has 2Q1a wins which a lot of bubble teams don’t have any Q1a. That would matter during the scrubbing process. Ius predictives are better this year. WAB kept them out last year and WAB will keep them out again if they can’t get it to around 42. Quote
Uspshoosier Posted Monday at 07:13 PM Author Posted Monday at 07:13 PM 1 minute ago, Stuhoo said: After Puredoo loses to both Northwestern and then at home to Wisconsin that will change quite a bit. ;) Purdue could lose both those games and their NET won’t drop them anywhere near 30. They have done enough all year and built their metrics up enough where if they slide it’s only going to be to 15 at worst Quote
hoopsta007 Posted Monday at 07:16 PM Posted Monday at 07:16 PM Got to think the win @ UCLA may turn out to be a big one. From what I’m seeing we may match up against UCLA again in our 2nd game in the BTT and if we win that and both of us are still bubble teams I think that would bode well for us. Assuming we don’t drop the Minnesota game Wednesday Quote
Jeff Flabjohns Posted Monday at 07:31 PM Posted Monday at 07:31 PM Depends what else happens but I’m guessing they’d be in Dayton with 20 wins. 21 would squeeze em out of the First Four Dave from Dayton 1 Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted Monday at 07:37 PM Posted Monday at 07:37 PM HoosierHoopster, OliviaPope40, hoopsta007 and 3 others 6 Quote
HoosierHoopster Posted yesterday at 01:27 AM Posted yesterday at 01:27 AM @Uspshoosier - does a win @osu likely still get us in, or more likely would still need a win in BTT? Quote
Uspshoosier Posted yesterday at 01:30 AM Author Posted yesterday at 01:30 AM Just now, HoosierHoopster said: @Uspshoosier - does a win @osu likely still get us in, or more likely would still need a win in BTT? Would depend on what others do around the cut line and how many upsets happen during champ week but winning at OSU could be enough especially since OSU is currently projected in the field and not in the first 4. If IU wins that would be 4 wins against the projected field with 2 of those on the road and one against a bubble team. Mostly need to see where their WAB is before the BTT Dave from Dayton and HoosierHoopster 1 1 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted yesterday at 01:32 AM Author Posted yesterday at 01:32 AM Marquette is up 23 at Providence. Providence is 75th in net so if Marquette wins this game I’m betting their net jumps below 100 and that win becomes a Q2 however Marquette is up and down so that could flip back Shooter 1 Quote
Shooter Posted yesterday at 01:36 AM Posted yesterday at 01:36 AM 3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: Marquette is up 23 at Providence. Providence is 75th in net so if Marquette wins this game I’m betting their net jumps below 100 and that win becomes a Q2 however Marquette is up and down so that could flip back That is helpful. Too bad they laid an egg vs Depaul at home over the weekend, or they'd already be top 100. Uspshoosier 1 Quote
hoopsta007 Posted yesterday at 01:39 AM Posted yesterday at 01:39 AM Potentially the win may be needed in the BTT because of the likelihood we are playing one of the bottom tier teams in the first one. More about avoiding a bad loss than improving our position Shooter and Uspshoosier 2 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted yesterday at 01:41 AM Author Posted yesterday at 01:41 AM Just now, hoopsta007 said: Potentially the win may be needed in the BTT because of the likelihood we are playing one of the bottom tier teams in the first one. More about avoiding a bad loss than improving our position I would want Northwestern in that first game. Gives you a chance to get one back against them and even with them being a bottom feeder their net is in the 70s so it’s a Q2 win if you win it str8baller, Dave from Dayton and hoopsta007 3 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted yesterday at 01:41 AM Author Posted yesterday at 01:41 AM 4 minutes ago, Shooter said: That is helpful. Too bad they laid an egg vs Depaul at home over the weekend, or they'd already be top 100. Yeah they were at 100 when they lost that game and dropped 8 spots Quote
Uspshoosier Posted yesterday at 04:20 AM Author Posted yesterday at 04:20 AM Unbalanced schedules stink road games IU missed out on Penn St-124(Q2) Oregon-107(Q2) Northwestern-73(Q1) Washington-61(Q1) 4 Q1 and Q2 opportunities against the bottom of the B1G. Not sayIng they win all of them but they would have had a better chance against those teams then the top of the conference teams on the road. These are Q1 and Q2 wins that other bubble teams have against their conference opponents. It is what it is though and you play the schedule you are dealt Ryno6284 and Dave from Dayton 1 1 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted 21 hours ago Author Posted 21 hours ago With USCs loss over night IU is locked into the 10 seed for the BTT. If Iowa loses both games and IU wins at OSU they will tie for 9th in the league however will be the 10 seed because of tiebreakers Jeff Flabjohns, FortWayneHoosier, Dave from Dayton and 1 other 3 1 Quote
Jeff Flabjohns Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: With USCs loss over night IU is locked into the 10 seed for the BTT. If Iowa loses both games and IU wins at OSU they will tie for 9th in the league however will be the 10 seed because of tiebreakers I had already bought tickets for the Thursday evening session in Chicago. Will be able to see us play, assuming we win Wednesday. Uspshoosier 1 Quote
EasyEJay Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago If IU does NOT make the tournament, what are the chances they decide to play in the crown tournament if invited. They seem like the perfect team for it. Brand recognition plus a team full of seniors also chance to win some extra NIL cash. BannerVille 1 Quote
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