Feathery Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 33 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Agree on Smith. Curious if he becomes the player he thinks he is, if he transfers. I’m worried about him taking too many minutes again next year. He was all sorts of bad except for about 3 games. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners I’m interested in seeing if Smith figures it out. Fish made a comment late in the season in an interview with Dakich, that Smith has better averages than Morgan did as a sophomore. I haven’t looked to see if that was accurate and what stats in particular he was referencing. But he was basically saying don’t give up on him yet. Quote
Brass Cannon Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Feathery said: I’m interested in seeing if Smith figures it out. Fish made a comment late in the season in an interview with Dakich, that Smith has better averages than Morgan did as a sophomore. I haven’t looked to see if that was accurate and what stats in particular he was referencing. But he was basically saying don’t give up on him yet. Not sure what he’s talking about. Morgan was a better scorer/shooter, rebounder and had a better assist to turnover ratio. Quote
Feathery Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said: Not sure what he’s talking about. Morgan was a better scorer/shooter, rebounder and had a better assist to turnover ratio. I don’t know either. I haven’t gone back to see what stats he was referring too. Maybe points per game? Shrug. Quote
Feathery Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: Not sure what he’s talking about. Morgan was a better scorer/shooter, rebounder and had a better assist to turnover ratio. Points/game: Morgan 7.7, Smith 8.2 3p %: Morgan 25%, Smith 21.9% Rebounds: Morgan 5.6, Smith 4.5 Looking at the rest of their stats, they are very similar statistically as sophomores. We shall see if Smith makes the leap that Morgan made. RaceToTheTop 1 Quote
BtownBanner6 Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Feathery said: Points/game: Morgan 7.7, Smith 8.2 3p %: Morgan 25%, Smith 21.9% Rebounds: Morgan 5.6, Smith 4.5 Looking at the rest of their stats, they are very similar statistically as sophomores. We shall see if Smith makes the leap that Morgan made. Morgan had the benefit of a coaching change that brought a play style he could shine in Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: Not sure what he’s talking about. Morgan was a better scorer/shooter, rebounder and had a better assist to turnover ratio. Smith averaged 8.2 ppg as a sophomore, Morgan averaged 7.7. But overall, Morgan was a little bit better in every other aspect. Quote
jonz44 Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 13 hours ago, Stuhoo said: Dammit... I KNEW the name “Romeo” had some lingering baggage! Romeo, Romeo, where art thou?... in Rob's room... Quote
RatpigHoosier Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 Green is the only one of them to shoot 35%, although Al was close. Rob was 31% and Smith was 22%. So no, we don't have shooters to keep teams honest, at least not yet. I'm hopeful that Al and Rob can take steps forward. Smith's shot is broken, so he's only going to get better if he reworks his shot. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkDidn’t Rob’s shot fall off after his concussion? If I recall correctly he was shooting 3s at a 40% clip prior. Could be wrong though. I definitely think he can be a capable shooter. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
RatpigHoosier Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 They shot 35% as a group. If they are taking the 3s that keeps the D honest. That’s more than a point per attempt. Similar to any 2 point shot short of a dunk or layup. Rob was nearly 40% during his non concussed play. Al was near 35% And Devonte was 41%. Thats more than enough to keep teams honest especially if Phinisee and Al can further improve. Not to mention Hunter is supposed to be a fantastic shooter. It was a known strength and the staff was even surprised how good he was. Sorry, Brass. I asked about Rob’s shooting before I read your post. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 Do we make it 3 in 3 days today? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners thebigweave 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Do we make it 3 in 3 days today? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners If we are losing somebody else would like to get it out of the way myself. mamasa and Class of '66 Old Fart 2 Quote
GloryDays Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 15 hours ago, tyappleg said: What the hell do you want Glass to do? Storm into the bedroom and stop Romeo mid-pump? With a bucket of ice water. HoosierAloha, BGVille Hoosierfan and Napleshoosier 3 Quote
Baltimore Hoosier Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 Smith, Green, Al and Rob shot 35% plus. 3 are underclassmen. 35% is more than enough to keep a defense honest. As I said if there’s a 3 and D wing out there I lm all for adding them. I’m not sure there are many out there though. Shooting is an issue. I think the far bigger issue is that we almost never had the tallest guy on the court and sometimes didn’t even have the second tallest. What kind of statement is this? You lump Smith, Green, Al, and Rob together and say they shot 35%... Thats insanely misleading. Green was the only guy on this team above 40%, and Al was actually just below 35%. The other two weren’t nearly as accurate.. And as far as number of 3’s made by these four players? 3.9 total per game combined. And these numbers are bolstered by Green’s exceptionally hot shooting coming down the stretch. Nothing about this says IU was anywhere close to keeping teams ‘honest’ from the perimeter in any way whatsoever... I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. I’d also like to point out that Green was shooting sub 35% prior to the last 4 games of the conference season. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Hillsdale87, Hoosierfan2017 and HoosierX 3 Quote
GloryDays Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 13 hours ago, Napleshoosier said: That’s a FCHS shot! Lol Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Still salty after that comeback regional win in 73. Cookie 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 21 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said: What kind of statement is this? You lump Smith, Green, Al, and Rob together and say they shot 35%... Thats insanely misleading. Green was the only guy on this team above 40%, and Al was actually just below 35%. The other two weren’t nearly as accurate.. And as far as number of 3’s made by these four players? 3.9 total per game combined. And these numbers are bolstered by Green’s exceptionally hot shooting coming down the stretch. Nothing about this says IU was anywhere close to keeping teams ‘honest’ from the perimeter in any way whatsoever... I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. I’d also like to point out that Green was shooting sub 35% prior to the last 4 games of the conference season. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app It’s not misleading it’s a statement of the combined percentage of the people returning. Nowhere did I say we kept teams honest I said this is a good enough percent to keep them honest. Your inability to correctly read does not make my statement misleading. Cheaney40 1 Quote
HoosierX Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said: What kind of statement is this? You lump Smith, Green, Al, and Rob together and say they shot 35%... Thats insanely misleading. Green was the only guy on this team above 40%, and Al was actually just below 35%. The other two weren’t nearly as accurate.. And as far as number of 3’s made by these four players? 3.9 total per game combined. And these numbers are bolstered by Green’s exceptionally hot shooting coming down the stretch. Nothing about this says IU was anywhere close to keeping teams ‘honest’ from the perimeter in any way whatsoever... I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. I’d also like to point out that Green was shooting sub 35% prior to the last 4 games of the conference season. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Steph Curry and Andrew Bogut are shooting over 40% from 3 as a group this year. Hillsdale87, thebigweave, Hoosierfan2017 and 1 other 4 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 1 minute ago, HoosierX said: Steph Curry and Andrew Bogut are shooting over 40% from 3 as a group this year. Thanks for this. I am always more confident I’m right when you disagree with me. Quote
HoosierX Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 Just now, Brass Cannon said: It’s not misleading it’s a statement of the combined percentage of the people returning. Nowhere did I say we kept teams honest I said this is a good enough percent to keep them honest. Your inability to correctly read does not make my statement misleading. Yes it is misleading and it's just a lazy analysis. Plus as mentioned you aren't taking volume into account at all. Lumping a low volume 20% shooter into a group that is shooting 35% overall is just dumb. He is not a guy that is keeping the defense honest so what is the point of including him. jonz44 and Walking Boot of Doom 2 Quote
HoosierX Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said: Thanks for this. I am always more confident I’m right when you disagree with me. Shouldn't you be somewhere evangelizing how overrated Carsen Edwards is? thebigweave 1 Quote
Baltimore Hoosier Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 It’s not misleading it’s a statement of the combined percentage of the people returning. Nowhere did I say we kept teams honest I said this is a good enough percent to keep them honest. Your inability to correctly read does not make my statement misleading. Your EXACT statement was that this is good enough to keep teams honest. And I’m telling you that the statistics that I just laid out for you completely contradict your point in every way possible. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
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