So some concerns I’m having...

[Bailey7878]

I know.  And the aforementioned Moses Abraham went on to average less than 2 pts and 1 rebound per game, although he did eventually end up in the B1G.

Crean seemed to find the worse of the worst foreign big man projects. They all hand hands of stone

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[TheWatShot]

When it came to recruiting post players and managing roster spots, Crean was like a broken Rube Goldberg machine.

[Rico]

5 hours ago, Joe DeLow said:

Moore has actually looked decent in games. Just hasn’t had a chance to play to catch up to the speed of the game.


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And McRoberts and Fitzner have had plenty of minutes....they are up to speed?

[MikeRoberts]

And McRoberts and Fitzner have had plenty of minutes....they are up to speed?

Not sure the point you are making but yes, they have had their chance to get acquainted with the speed of play and they are not impactful. Might as well give others a shot


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[Rico]

3 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Not sure the point you are making but yes, they have had their chance to get acquainted with the speed of play and they are not impactful. Might as well give others a shot


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That is my point.

[8bucks]

I get frustrated watching guys struggle in games while others sit but I have to wonder if the guys playing are putting in more effort in practice. Could be those guys on the bench are not working as hard on their own or during practice so Archie might be rewarding effort.


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[mdn82]

At this point, I’m open to playing Blackmon over McRoberts. He’d at least let it fly when wide open.


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Dude he is not good. There are easily 10 plus players that should play before him.


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[southernindianahoosier2]

2 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

Dude he is not good. There are easily 10 plus players that should play before him.


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I'd be open to try anything

[Josh]

14 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

I'd be open to try anything

Agreed.  What we're doing isn't working at all

[bigrod]

5 minutes ago, Josh said:

Agreed.  What we're doing isn't working at all

Starting to become insanity, defined.

[mdn82]

I'd be open to try anything

I suppose if we want to see how much worse we could look I am open for it. I have seen him play many times. It’s not a knee jerk comment. He is here because of his brother. His younger brother is currently better than him. I recommend looking how he got to this point at IU and not say let’s make this change for the sake of change. Unless you consider players not good enough for NAIA able to step in at IU.

 

 

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[southernindianahoosier2]

6 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

I suppose if we want to see how much worse we could look I am open for it. I have seen him play many times. It’s not a knee jerk comment. He is here because of his brother. His younger brother is currently better than him. I recommend looking how he got to this point at IU and not say let’s make this change for the sake of change. Unless you consider players not good enough for NAIA able to step in at IU.

 

 

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I've seen him hit a 3 in an IU game this year, which is more than I can say about a lot of our team. I don't think he should start, but it would be nice to have him come in and knock down a 3 at some point in the game. 

[IUc2016]

28 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

I'd be open to try anything

yeah maybe we should try something where our defense switches from the pack-line to zone with about 10 seconds left on the shot clock. 

OR maybe we could like come up with some signs the coaches hold from the bench to remind our players not to miss free throws or to hit wide open jump shots. 

I mean seriously, lets get crazy with it. 

[Rico]

2 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

yeah maybe we should try something where our defense switches from the pack-line to zone with about 10 seconds left on the shot clock. 

OR maybe we could like come up with some signs the coaches hold from the bench to remind our players not to miss free throws or to hit wide open jump shots. 

I mean seriously, lets get crazy with it. 

Or MAYBE we try something different to MAYBE win a game?

[IUc2016]

1 minute ago, Rico said:

Or MAYBE we try something different to MAYBE win a game?

yes, no kidding. But playing another walk--on? give me a break. 

[Rico]

13 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

yes, no kidding. But playing another walk--on? give me a break. 

We need to do something...I am open to anything.

[IUc2016]

3 minutes ago, Rico said:

We need to do something...I am open to anything.

Enlighten me, what do you mean by anything?

Because Archie will probably switch some things up to get better results, but I guarantee you it will still be within his system. Wholesale changes will not occur. He is building a program and culture for the future. He is not going to rely on some flavor of the week gimmick to get a W. 

[mdn82]

I've seen him hit a 3 in an IU game this year, which is more than I can say about a lot of our team. I don't think he should start, but it would be nice to have him come in and knock down a 3 at some point in the game. 

Who hasn’t hit a 3 the whole year this year?


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[Stuhoo]

1 hour ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

I'd be open to try anything

 

56 minutes ago, bigrod said:

Starting to become insanity, defined.

 

47 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

I've seen him hit a 3 in an IU game this year, which is more than I can say about a lot of our team. I don't think he should start, but it would be nice to have him come in and knock down a 3 at some point in the game. 

 

25 minutes ago, Rico said:

We need to do something...I am open to anything.

 

My 12 year old hit two out of three 3s in his last rec league game. Maybe we should give him a look because some are "open to try anything" regardless of what the coaches see on an extremely regular basis?

Archie Miller is not infallible, but he knows WAY more about how to adjust this team than any of us. His formula for  breaking out of the funk? Hard work at grinding through until confidence returns by his best players.

That makes a lot of sense to me.

 

 

[Str8Hoosiers]

30 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

Who hasn’t hit a 3 the whole year this year?


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De'Ron, Clifton, Jake, Johnny, Quentin, & Race.... (I know you weren't seriously asking).

These are the guys that haven't... just because Blackmon has hit 1 doesn't mean he should get any minutes beyond a blowout...

Everybody wants different results and I get that but I don't think it is just Archie playing the guys who practice the hardest... If you put these other options in the game do you really think it is going to be some magical cure? Or are you just interested in change because the current guys aren't getting it done? What if we did play those guys and still lose... then what? Cut everybody and get 13 new scholarship players? Go visit the Hyper to look for some last minute walk-ons that hit some 3s in there?

Are we seriously asking for the bench guys to come to our rescue... the ones everybody wants to play have scored 71 points in 238 minutes.... basically the same as Fitzner and everybody wants him to never play again.... They have 49 rebounds... to 48 for Fitzner.... 10 assists to 9 for Fitzner.... Fitzner turns the ball over too much, he has bad hands... he has 9... the others 17 (again in the same basic amount of minutes)...