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He will survive the season though.

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Agreed. He will put out some big pomp and circumstance moment that makes his retirement sound like it’s his idea and has nothing to do with the problems at hand.


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What was Crean's role as an assistant at MSU under Izzo? Wasn't he a recruiter? The current FBI investigation supposedly only covers the past 3 seasons or so, but could there be a connection there? Was Crean dirtier than we expected?
Maybe a matter of "learning at the master's feet"?
Cream was probably dirty.

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What was Crean's role as an assistant at MSU under Izzo? Wasn't he a recruiter? The current FBI investigation supposedly only covers the past 3 seasons or so, but could there be a connection there? Was Crean dirtier than we expected?
Maybe a matter of "learning at the master's feet"?

Slow learner if thats the case.He did recruit the Flintstones though.
He was most definitely out on the recruiting trail when the coaching drills were happening.

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If any current coach in the BIG is slimy, it's Izzo. Take your pick. Enabling sexual assault within the program or buying the best players available. There was a time I really liked him, not so much now. Throw him in with Pitino, Cal, Self, Roy, Bruce, Higgins, Sean, K, Sampson, and a whole lot more. It's time for a major purge. Screw the one and done. Once committed to play college ball, it should be like every other major sport, three year before yo are draft eligible. That won't eliminate the problem, but it sure will help. Imagine U.K. Fans that could name players from UK's past. This crap has destroyed the game as a lot of us knew back in the day.

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If any current coach in the BIG is slimy, it's Izzo. Take your pick. Enabling sexual assault within the program or buying the best players available. There was a time I really liked him, not so much now. Throw him in with Pitino, Cal, Self, Roy, Bruce, Higgins, Sean, K, Sampson, and a whole lot more. It's time for a major purge. Screw the one and done. Once committed to play college ball, it should be like every other major sport, three year before yo are draft eligible. That won't eliminate the problem, but it sure will help. Imagine U.K. Fans that could name players from UK's past. This crap has destroyed the game as a lot of us knew back in the day.
Izzo just makes my skin crawl. I hope he's out the first weekend of the tourney.

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I strongly believe the Dr. scandal, the sex assault coverups and all the ensuing investigations and Jerry Sandusky level magnifying glass heat that athletic department is going to continue to face in the years to come are going to force the university to ultimately put Izzo out to pasture. I don't see any of this going away.  Some of this, the FBI stuff is practically just beginning.

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I strongly believe the Dr. scandal, the sex assault coverups and all the ensuing investigations and Jerry Sandusky level magnifying glass heat that athletic department is going to continue to face in the years to come are going to force the university to ultimately put Izzo out to pasture. I don't see any of this going away.  Some of this, the FBI stuff is practically just beginning.
Izzo will be back next year. Bank it.Win baby win.


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13 hours ago, Bailey7878 said:

Izzo will be back next year. Bank it.Win baby win.


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Maybe so.  I am watching along with you.  From this outsider's perspective I just think that there are way too many separate enormous problems coming to light within that athletic department right now for Izzo to survive all the pressures the many different outside and inside forces are going to be hammering away at that university athletic program and basketball program specifically for a long time to come.  At some point I expect either Izzo to make the choice for himself to step down, or his new boss, or his new boss' boss, or the Board of Trustees, or the FBI, or the NCAA, or a lawyer or a group of lawyers representing the #metoo movement or an individual or a class action, or a judge or whoever else is out there with another story or stories we have not even heard yet, or the general public, or the media but most likely all of the above are going to force this issue.  Way too much going on.

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Maybe so.  I am watching along with you.  From this outsider's perspective I just think that there are way too many separate enormous problems coming to light within that athletic department right now for Izzo to survive all the pressures the many different outside and inside forces are going to be hammering away at that university athletic program and basketball program specifically for a long time to come.  At some point I expect either Izzo to make the choice for himself to step down, or his new boss, or his new boss' boss, or the Board of Trustees, or the FBI, or the NCAA, or a lawyer or a group of lawyers representing the #metoo movement or an individual or a class action, or a judge or whoever else is out there with another story or stories we have not even heard yet, or the general public, or the media but most likely all of the above are going to force this issue.  Way too much going on.

Seems to me the handwriting should be on the wall. I won't be at all surprised if Izzo decides to retire after the season. He is 63 but as someone else mentioned, he looks like he's aged 10 years in the past 6 months. I'm sure if this was just pure basketball and he didn't have to deal with all these other issues he could coach for another decade. Now? Not so much. Unfortunately, I don't see Dane getting the shot to replace him since he was on this bus when the wheels fell off.


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7 minutes ago, RatpigHoosier said:


Seems to me the handwriting should be on the wall. I won't be at all surprised if Izzo decides to retire after the season. He is 63 but as someone else mentioned, he looks like he's aged 10 years in the past 6 months. I'm sure if this was just pure basketball and he didn't have to deal with all these other issues he could coach for another decade. Now? Not so much. Unfortunately, I don't see Dane getting the shot to replace him since he was on this bus when the wheels fell off.


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That job can't possibly be fun anymore.  It's not even going to be fun for quite a while for a squeaky clean replacement who had absolutely nothing to do with any of this.

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