Georgia Southern @ Indiana Game Thread - 330 ET on BTN

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Dammit! There goes my 45-17 prediction! 

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52-17 Hoosiers! Let the clock run baby!


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[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

Good win! Did what we were supposed to do today--now let's get ready and upset somebody! Sights on Penn State...


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1 hour ago, JSHoosier said:

I hate the idea of rotating QBs.  Neither one can get in a rhythm.

Lagow can, but he's hardly consistent and his accuracy is a question mark.  Good pass to Thomas there, I'll give him credit for that even if Thomas was wide open.

I guess what I'd say is I don't think either one of them is good enough to be "all the time."  I hate the two QB thing too; but in this case, it gives them the best chance to succeed depending on what defenses do because they're completely different players.

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Morgan Ellison is a beast

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I noticed that Tim Buckley is still on the radio with Fisch. 

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I wasn't going to comment on this one until I saw the IDS article recapping the game, particularly the "What did we learn? Not much of anything" mindset. I'd argue that while we played an inferior opponent, we still learned a bit more about our team...

- The O-Line played as a much more cohesive unit. 282 yards rushing against them is solid (as a comparison, Auburn went for 350+ yards). They were much more effective opening up holes this game. The pass-blocking was much improved. Simply put, they looked improved from previous weeks and did what you hoped they would do against a team like Ga. Southern. Next week will be a tremendous challenge, but I'm fairly confident you'll see them be more effective than they were against Ohio State. The O-Line is improving.

- As a result, that places less pressure on the QB's. We don't particularly want a lot of pressure on Lagow or Ramsey to win the game for us. That's way too risky. In this game, the QB's didn't have to force anything, so mistakes were minimal. That's ideal for our offense at this point.

- Ellison got his chance and shined. Really like his power style of running. He's got good size and reads holes relatively well for his age. I think he certainly separated himself as our lead back, which is key. We needed someone to step up at that position. The fact that he's just a freshman is all the more impressive.

- Our defense looked a little tired in that 3rd quarter. Admittedly, it was a LONG game and they seemed to play better in the 4th quarter. But it's a bit concerning because you saw similarities between that and the Ohio State game. I don't know if it's because of how many plays are being ran or what. Something to keep an eye on as the year progresses.

- How about J-Shun Harris? We have a true weapon there. If we "breakthrough" against a top team this year, I have a feeling he'll play a huge role in that game. He proved in this game that he's a threat anytime he touches the ball.

In the end, we won 52-17. We improved our line play and established a running game and got some takeaways. Not sure how much more you could ask from them this game.

ALSO, we play Ga. Southern (an FBS team) because it's a high chance of a win. We need  6 wins for a bowl. It does not behoove us to schedule top mid-majors or more than one Power 5 team in the non-conference. A high strength of schedule is not important for IU football. We need wins. Not necessarily against the absolute worst teams, but still. We get Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State every year. That's why we need the Ga. Southern games to balance the schedule. Playing a strong non-conference schedule and missing a bowl does not help this football program.

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24 minutes ago, GnarlyTimGarl said:

I wasn't going to comment on this one until I saw the IDS article recapping the game, particularly the "What did we learn? Not much of anything" mindset. I'd argue that while we played an inferior opponent, we still learned a bit more about our team...

- The O-Line played as a much more cohesive unit. 282 yards rushing against them is solid (as a comparison, Auburn went for 350+ yards). They were much more effective opening up holes this game. The pass-blocking was much improved. Simply put, they looked improved from previous weeks and did what you hoped they would do against a team like Ga. Southern. Next week will be a tremendous challenge, but I'm fairly confident you'll see them be more effective than they were against Ohio State. The O-Line is improving.

- As a result, that places less pressure on the QB's. We don't particularly want a lot of pressure on Lagow or Ramsey to win the game for us. That's way too risky. In this game, the QB's didn't have to force anything, so mistakes were minimal. That's ideal for our offense at this point.

- Ellison got his chance and shined. Really like his power style of running. He's got good size and reads holes relatively well for his age. I think he certainly separated himself as our lead back, which is key. We needed someone to step up at that position. The fact that he's just a freshman is all the more impressive.

- Our defense looked a little tired in that 3rd quarter. Admittedly, it was a LONG game and they seemed to play better in the 4th quarter. But it's a bit concerning because you saw similarities between that and the Ohio State game. I don't know if it's because of how many plays are being ran or what. Something to keep an eye on as the year progresses.

- How about J-Shun Harris? We have a true weapon there. If we "breakthrough" against a top team this year, I have a feeling he'll play a huge role in that game. He proved in this game that he's a threat anytime he touches the ball.

In the end, we won 52-17. We improved our line play and established a running game and got some takeaways. Not sure how much more you could ask from them this game.

ALSO, we play Ga. Southern (an FBS team) because it's a high chance of a win. We need  6 wins for a bowl. It does not behoove us to schedule top mid-majors or more than one Power 5 team in the non-conference. A high strength of schedule is not important for IU football. We need wins. Not necessarily against the absolute worst teams, but still. We get Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State every year. That's why we need the Ga. Southern games to balance the schedule. Playing a strong non-conference schedule and missing a bowl does not help this football program.

Don't ever feel like you shouldn't comment. I thoroughly enjoy your thoughts whenever you share them.

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On 9/23/2017 at 5:47 PM, Hoosierfan2017 said:

And Lagow still can't throw well either. One is a freshman and the other is a senior. Go with the guy that will be here multiple years when the other player isn't noticeably better. 

Not sure what you're watching, but if you're saying you're willing to throw away the season this year to the benefit of next season and beyond, that's your prerogative, but this team won't win this season with just Ramsey.    Lagow threw for > 400 yards against Ohio State.  He may not be consistent, but to say he can't throw the ball well is simply incorrect.   Lagow throws it down the field FAR better than Ramsey does; and we need that as part of our offense.  I don't think anyone else is willing to give this season away.

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2 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

Not sure what you're watching, but if you're saying you're willing to throw away the season this year to the benefit of next season and beyond, that's your prerogative, but this team won't win this season with just Ramsey.    Lagow threw for > 400 yards against Ohio State.  He may not be consistent, but to say he can't throw the ball well is simply incorrect.   Lagow throws it down the field FAR better than Ramsey does; and we need that as part of our offense.  I don't think anyone else is willing to give this season away.

400 yards really isn't impressive when you throw 65 times

[Hoosierfan2017 24,426]

6 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

Not sure what you're watching, but if you're saying you're willing to throw away the season this year to the benefit of next season and beyond, that's your prerogative, but this team won't win this season with just Ramsey.    Lagow threw for > 400 yards against Ohio State.  He may not be consistent, but to say he can't throw the ball well is simply incorrect.   Lagow throws it down the field FAR better than Ramsey does; and we need that as part of our offense.  I don't think anyone else is willing to give this season away.

Starting Ramsey wouldn't be giving the season away. We probably get beat by Virginia if Lagow stays in the whole game. That's a game we needed to get to a bowl.

I'm confident that we could get to a bowl with Ramsey as our starting quarterback. I think he gives us a better chance this season. Starting him should be a no brainer.

I really don't care how far Richard Lagow can throw a football because he isn't accurate. Having a cannon of an arm doesn't matter when you can't control it. We don't need our quarterback to throw for 400 yards. We need him to be able to take care of the football and Lagow hasn't shown any ability to do that at IU. 

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12 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

400 yards really isn't impressive when you throw 65 times

Exactly. It was only 6.3 YPA. For perspective, Ramsey had 8.6 YPA against Virginia. 

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44 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

400 yards really isn't impressive when you throw 65 times

Unless of course you watched the game and saw some of the throws.  Hello, stalker.  How was your Sunday?

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31 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Exactly. It was only 6.3 YPA. For perspective, Ramsey had 8.6 YPA against Virginia. 

And again....context.  How much of the yardage against UVA was YAC?  How much against OSU was not?  How much better is OSU than Virginia?   

You guys aren't objective, but know more than former college QB's who talked about the way Lagow can throw the ball.   Got it.   

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5 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

And again....context.  How much of the yardage against UVA was YAC?  How much against OSU was not?  How much better is OSU than Virginia?   

You guys aren't objective, but know more than former college QB's who talked about the way Lagow can throw the ball.   Got it.   

3/10 for 24 yards and an INT against the bad Virginia defense for Lagow. He couldn't do anything against them.

Who here is denying that Lagow can make great throws? Sometimes he looks like an NFL prospect out there. He looks great at times. Other times he looks like a true freshman playing in his first college game. We never know which Richard Lagow we're going to get. He's too inconsistent to be able to rely on.

If he goes to Happy Valley and starts out like he did against Virginia then the game will be over as soon as it begins.  

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17 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

Unless of course you watched the game and saw some of the throws.  Hello, stalker.  How was your Sunday?

Dude just because you post nonsense and some people call you out on it doesn't mean they are stalking you.  Get over yourself 

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RB Morgan Ellison is Big Ten Freshman of the Week.

PR/WR J-Shun Harris is Big Ten Special Teams Player of the Week for 2nd week in row.

 

 

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This is t GASouthern related but since we don't have a psu pre game thread. Here. 

 

I know this has been talked about in the past not really recently as we have played better. But we used to say we play down to lower opponents then somehow stayed around for a little bit with the big dogs and played up to our opponents. I was just thinking and went back and looked and reminisced on games from last year. If you think about it....Lagow is like older teams from IU. He played up to higher opponents but then he plays way down to inferior opponents. Idk if he's like hey they are bad let me just throw this ball anywhere and everywhere, but even last year against higher teams he played smart and had 1-2 bonehead plays against strong teams but then lower tier teams he just makes 10-15 dumb throws or decisions a game. Just a thought that went through my mind thinking about big teams like penn state this weekend. I'm sure we will see the 1,2 punch of Lagow and Ramsey. But I hope someone shines in the first couple of drives and we can lean on them for a nice competitive game. Defense will be interesting with Injuries.  I think Fant and others will play. Harris and ball I think are going to be out.