TOM CREAN FIRED

[HoosierReb01 7,511]

How?

Exactly. Charlie's only hanging on the edge by his toenails now. :lol:  :lol:

[IUfan_Charlie 3,867]

Charlie, you balance on the edge every game anyway.

This is the closest I've been to jumping off. 

[IUfan_Charlie 3,867]

How?

Because he had our best player on the bench in the clutch and it led to PSU getting 2nd chance points because we had no one in who could rebound. 

[RoadToZion 373]

I actually thought it was solid coaching down the stretch.

 

Howard is a better defender than Noah. He just is. Would you rather have Hanner in there? No.

 

Howard hit 3 huge free throws for us and grabbed a couple big rebounds. I thought he played just fine. 

[IUfan_Charlie 3,867]

I actually thought it was solid coaching down the stretch.

 

Howard is a better defender than Noah. He just is. Would you rather have Hanner in there? No.

 

Howard hit 3 huge free throws for us and grabbed a couple big rebounds. I thought he played just fine. 

no no no no no, wrong, Howard is not a better defender than Noah. 

[RoadToZion 373]

no no no no no, wrong, Howard is not a better defender than Noah. 

On ball defender yes he is. Laugh all you want. 

[Alford_fan 6]

Someone asked earlier in this thread, who is better then Crean out there? It looks like Richard Pitino in his first year at Minnesota is going to do better then IU this year. 

[Buck Naked 451]

[quote name="IUfan_Charlie" post="29211" timestamp="1389468808"]no no no no no, wrong, Howard is not a better defender than Noah. [/quote]

Yes, yes, yes. I think it was the Syracuse game where his one on one post defense just isn't there yet. Howard more disciplined. Noah is great at floating around the lane and blocking shots but D-ing up isn't a strong point. Not knocking just a fact.


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[All_Hoosiers 873]

[quote name="Alford_fan" post="29224" timestamp="1389469730"]Someone asked earlier in this thread, who is better then Crean out there? It looks like Richard Pitino in his first year at Minnesota is going to do better then IU this year. [/quote]

Let's see what Pitino can do when he gets his own players.


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[Dalton26 16,892]

[quote name="RoadToZion" post="29214" timestamp="1389468896"]On ball defender yes he is. Laugh all you want. [/quote]

Agreed.


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[All_Hoosiers 873]

Inside The Hall said Crean coached an excellent game. I have a feeling some may disagree, however.


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[JSHoosier 19,811]

Inside The Hall said Crean coached an excellent game. I have a feeling some may disagree, however.


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Uhhhh, offense for defense subbing with Jeff Howard disagrees.  He didn't do a bad job, but that alone keeps it from "excellent".

[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

Not a crean fan lost respect for him when he went off on Meyer last year but no not time to fire him that's ridiculous. Young team gaining experience not having the year everyone wanted them to have. They are getting better. Crean needs to get better too.


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You'd be all up close on K if he went off on someone under the same circumstances.

[BlueDevil 8,655]

[quote name="HoosierHoops1" post="29477" timestamp="1389575969"]You'd be all up close on K if he went off on someone under the same circumstances.[/quote]

You mean as in defending his actions?


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[yogisballin 2,295]

Let's see what Pitino can do when he gets his own players.


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Since this has been brought up. I'm going to say that Pitino will be just fine, if not better with his own players. What makes you think he would do worse with his own players? I would think that he's going to have better talent up there than Tubby was able to bring in.

[JSHoosier 19,811]

Since this has been brought up. I'm going to say that Pitino will be just fine, if not better with his own players. What makes you think he would do worse with his own players? I would think that he's going to have better talent up there than Tubby was able to bring in.

Mike Davis did worse with his own players, he played hop scotch with the .500 line with his own players.

[Stuhoo 79,586]

no no no no no, wrong, Howard is not a better defender than Noah. 

 

A slight amendment:

 

Howard is a smarter defender than Vonleh (for now). 

 

And in the last few minutes of a tight game against an opponent with no dominant big for Jeff to have to handle, that matters.

[All_Hoosiers 873]

Since this has been brought up. I'm going to say that Pitino will be just fine, if not better with his own players. What makes you think he would do worse with his own players? I would think that he's going to have better talent up there than Tubby was able to bring in.

 

I never said he would do worse. I'm just going to withhold judgement until he coaches his own players, which he has yet to do.

[Samiam87 0]

This is the point guys, we like him, he's a nice guy, the kids like him, but he can't coach during a game. We lost tonight, at Nebraska, Illinois, NW, because of Tom Cream not our players.   He subs 2nd and 3rd string players into Big Ten games for no reason. In addition, he continually messes up the flow of the game by subbing non-stop. Most coaches sub because they are resting, punishing, matching up or saving players. In addition, a coach might sub because we are way ahead or behind. However, Tom Cream subs as soon as we start to do good. The Big Ten is not a pay for play league or elementary school not everyone should get playing time. If you're good enough to start you should start and play 90% of the game. This is what everyone is talking about! It's the coach and it's never gonna change he has been do this for years but we didn't notice because we were either losing big or winning big. Now that it's close we lose!  

[IU Hoosier41 14,465]

I'll have to admit, the Fire Tom Crean Train is growing tonight...