TOM CREAN FIRED

[Brass Cannon 25,243]

Even if Crean wins a NC it will be more a product of anybody can win it this year because there are no great teams. He isn't capable of building a consistent contender just a fact he's a known quantity at this point.

[mdn82 26,344]

Even if Crean wins a NC it will be more a product of anybody can win it this year because there are no great teams. He isn't capable of building a consistent contender just a fact he's a known quantity at this point.

In a year where nobody is dominant it would be more impressive. If you are stacked like we were in 12-13 a loss is a kick in the nuts. When you have close to 20 teams you could see in the Final Four you really have to give it up to the teams that survive. I am not as bold as Dakich that thinks we are going to the Final Four. But we should at least make that Second weekend and be in it to advance.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Even if Crean wins a NC it will be more a product of anybody can win it this year because there are no great teams. He isn't capable of building a consistent contender just a fact he's a known quantity at this point.

If any of the 64 teams can win, then it'd actually be more impressive to win a NC than if it were just a handful of teams that had a real shot.

[Brass Cannon 25,243]

What I mean is he can only win it in a year like this. We want consistency he will never give us that. We shouldn't be waiting 4 or 5 years for a slim chance to win the tourney.

[maxwell 685]

What I mean is he can only win it in a year like this. We want consistency he will never give us that. We shouldn't be waiting 4 or 5 years for a slim chance to win the tourney.

IUBB & CTC has beat more ranked teams than any other B1G in the last 4.5 years.  

 

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I've been under the impression that we are a fan base victimized by CTC.  Turns out we are now victimized by the Troll Yogi'sBicep because he dare raise the question at what level of success does it take for Crean to be accepted by the naysayers.  imo That's funny.

[Brass Cannon 25,243]

IUBB & CTC has beat more ranked teams than any other B1G in the last 4.5 years.

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I've been under the impression that we are a fan base victimized by CTC. Turns out we are now victimized by the Troll Yogi'sBicep because he dare raise the question at what level of success does it take for Crean to be accepted by the naysayers. imo That's funny.

Beating ranked teams isn't consistency when you can't beat Penn State and Illinois

[mdn82 26,344]

What I mean is he can only win it in a year like this. We want consistency he will never give us that. We shouldn't be waiting 4 or 5 years for a slim chance to win the tourney.

Not sure more than 2 or 3 coaches in America can give you what you truly want.  I hate to say it, but I think you will be disappointed no matter who the coach is.  I am not sure if you know this or not, but the most overwhelming title favorite enters the tournament with around a 20% chance to win it all.  Maybe 2 or 3 teams total every year enter with above 10%.  Even Duke under Coach K is like 2 out of 5 years over 10% chance when the brackets are announced.  Not sure what consistency truly is?  Arizona under Sean Miller that is ranked high every year to be bounced early?  Kansaas under Bill Self who by the standards presented underachieves outside of his one title yearly?  I mean if one title is a fluke, than that is his outlier.  His norm is being ranked high and getting bounced as a favorite.  Only 2 active NCAA coaches either come close or exceed their Tournament expectations.  Coach K and Izzo.  Even Coach K has years where he is a 2 getting bounced by a 15.  But, he follows it up with a title.  I understand what you are asking for, but you won't be happy with what you are asking for.  The argument will then turn into he can't win the big game.  If our theoretical coach wins 1 title in 20 years like an Izzo, it will be he is not winning consistently enough.  Someone should ask Izzo how "flukey" any title run is. 

[TrueHoosier62 1,802]

IUBB & CTC has beat more ranked teams than any other B1G in the last 4.5 years.  

 

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I've been under the impression that we are a fan base victimized by CTC.  Turns out we are now victimized by the Troll Yogi'sBicep because he dare raise the question at what level of success does it take for Crean to be accepted by the naysayers.  imo That's funny.

Beating ranked teams means absolutely nothing. Ask Digger Phelps, who holds the record for upsets of ranked teams, and who had exactly one trip to the final four in 20 seasons. Oh, and no NCs.

I was glad to see IU beat Iowa, but in no way do I think this team is NC caliber, nor do I think it ever will under Crean. I've yet to see one single team that he's constructed look the part. They're all sometimes exciting, but always frustratingly flawed teams, and those teams rarely get the job done.

[Brass Cannon 25,243]

I think you're misinterpreting what I'm saying I want a team that is consistently top 25 and every year has a chance to win a national championship not a team that stinks for three years then has one year where they have a slim chance to win a national championship

[Alford Bailey 13,189]

6-1 vs Top 5 at home
Most top 25 wins in last few years in CBB.

Question for all you Crean haters; if we were to win a Natty or go to Final Four- would anybody here still want him gone? (Say no)

Gone. No consistency. For every great win (at home) there is a terrible loss or two.

[RBB89 3,497]

Even if Crean wins a NC it will be more a product of anybody can win it this year because there are no great teams. He isn't capable of building a consistent contender just a fact he's a known quantity at this point.

Come on. Really?

[323SGrant 1,176]

Excellent win last night, but I'm not sold on CTC ever getting IU to the Final Four or a National Championship.

[RBB89 3,497]

Gone. No consistency. For every great win (at home) there is a terrible loss or two.

Just so I'm clear here, if we were to win the national title this year (which I seriously doubt), you would want Crean to be fired because we lost to Penn State?

[TrueHoosier62 1,802]

I think you're misinterpreting what I'm saying I want a team that is consistently top 25 and every year has a chance to win a national championship not a team that stinks for three years then has one year where they have a slim chance to win a national championship

I know what you're saying, Brass. Under coach Knight, "most years" we had a fighting chance. It didn't mean we thought we'd actually win it all, but we felt we had a fighter's chance. We knew we had the best tactical coach on the planet, and that he'd have the team mentally prepared for almost anything. His teams were fundamentally sound, and knew exactly what they were supposed to do. We won three championships under Knight, and with a break here or there, it could easily have been five. Under Crean, even when he appears to have some nice bits to the puzzle, his teams are still lacking in so many areas as to render them virtually incapable of winning it all. And when you factor in Crean's game day qualities, (he's an abysmal tactician), it leaves most of us convinced that any number of other coaches would get us closer to the prize.

[Alford Bailey 13,189]

Just so I'm clear here, if we were to win the national title this year (which I seriously doubt), you would want Crean to be fired because we lost to Penn State?

HaHa! Crean win 6 games in a row? In a tourney setting? Against real competition? Odds of that happening are about as good as getting struck by lightning on the way to pick up your Powerball winnings. YES.

[TrueHoosier62 1,802]

Just so I'm clear here, if we were to win the national title this year (which I seriously doubt), you would want Crean to be fired because we lost to Penn State?

I have a better chance of throwing my hat in to the ring for the Presidency, and wining a few state delegates, than IU does of winning an NC this year. I love IU, but it just isn't happening this year. 

[JSHoosier 22,182]

IUBB & CTC has beat more ranked teams than any other B1G in the last 4.5 years.  

 

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I've been under the impression that we are a fan base victimized by CTC.  Turns out we are now victimized by the Troll Yogi'sBicep because he dare raise the question at what level of success does it take for Crean to be accepted by the naysayers.  imo That's funny.

That alone does not equate consistency.  We should be in the top half of the B1G every season, with most of those being contenders for the conference.  We should expect to regularly be contenders nationally.  We should be one of the teams where they say "making the tournament for the 10th year in a row".  That is consistency

[mdn82 26,344]

I would personally love another Bob Knight. Although the chances of getting another top 3 coach in NCAA history are pretty slim. I understand that is the standard but ain't happening.

[BlueDevil 9,532]

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[TrueHoosier62 1,802]

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