Some Numbers

[TheWatShot 13,906]

As we get ready to ride the roller coaster known as the Tom Crean Tower of Terror for the next six weeks, I thought it would be interesting to look at our current numbers vs. two years ago when we made the tournament as our lowest seed in program history. 

RPI and SOS and NCSOS are usually included when discussing a team's postseason chances. Here are our numbers (pre-PSU). I'll try to update when I can. (Updated: 2/13/17)

RPI: 93

SOS: 44

NCSOS: 159

 

Here is what our respective numbers were in 2014-15, when we earned a 10 seed:

RPI: 61

SOS: 23

NCSOS: 97

As you can see, quite a way to go in all three categories, and not a favorable schedule for doing it. 

Some trivia:

1) Lowest RPI to earn an at-large bid: 72, by Syracuse last year. 

2) Most losses to get an at-large bid: 14, by Arizona in 2008. We had 13 losses two years ago. KenPom is projecting us to go 18-13 pre-BTT. We would tie this record if we got an at-large in this case. 

3) Fewest wins for an at-large: 17, by Alabama in 2006. Don't think this one will factor into anything, because if we have only 17 wins on Selection Sunday we're not anywhere near the discussion. 

So there you have it…9 years of Tom Crean and we're stuck comparing one crappy team to another. What fun! 

[Uspshoosier 45,572]

As we get ready to ride the roller coaster known as the Tom Crean Tower of Terror for the next six weeks, I thought it would be interesting to look at our current numbers vs. two years ago when we made the tournament as our lowest seed in program history. 

RPI and SOS and NCSOS are usually included when discussing a team's postseason chances. Here are our numbers (pre-PSU). I'll try to update when I can. 

RPI: 79

SOS: 64

NCSOS: 184

 

Here is what our respective numbers were in 2014-15, when we earned a 10 seed:

RPI: 58

SOS: 23

NCSOS: 97

As you can see, quite a way to go in all three categories, and not a favorable schedule for doing it. 

Some trivia:

1) Lowest RPI to earn an at-large bid: 67, by USC in 2011. 

2) Most losses to get an at-large bid: 14, by Arizona in 2008. We had 13 losses two years ago. KenPom is projecting us to go 18-13 pre-BTT. We would tie this record if we got an at-large in this case. 

3) Fewest wins for an at-large: 17, by Alabama in 2006. Don't think this one will factor into anything, because if we have only 17 wins on Selection Sunday we're not anywhere near the discussion. 

So there you have it…9 years of Tom Crean and we're stuck comparing one crappy team to another. What fun! 

Syracuse last year had a rpi in the 70s


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[TheWatShot 13,906]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Syracuse last year had a rpi in the 70s


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It was 68. Their SOS was 39 and their NCSOS was 122. 

[Uspshoosier 45,572]

It was 68. Their SOS was 39 and their NCSOS was 122. 

72
https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2016/3/28/11313244/syracuse-basketball-final-four-virginia-north-carolina?client=safari


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[TheWatShot 13,906]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

72
https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2016/3/28/11313244/syracuse-basketball-final-four-virginia-north-carolina?client=safari


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ESPN says 68: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/year/2016/page/1/sort/RPI

[Uspshoosier 45,572]

ESPN says 68: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/year/2016/page/1/sort/RPI

ESPN puts their own spin on rpi. It is always a little off
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI


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[Uspshoosier 45,572]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/sports/wp/2016/03/13/selection-sunday-the-most-intriguing-ncaa-tournament-bubble-teams/?client=safari


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[Uspshoosier 45,572]

One thing the 2013 team didn't have would be 2 wins vs top 10 rpi teams


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[TheWatShot 13,906]

Wow, just looked on ncaa.com and their rankings show us at 84. Why are ESPN's higher? 

[Uspshoosier 45,572]

Wow, just looked on ncaa.com and their rankings show us at 84. Why are ESPN's higher? 

 

They use their own formula that's a little different. They r usually close. ESPN is nice to look at for their team sheets. Just check NCAA rpi to get a more accurate number.

Sorry Wat I'm a rpi and team sheet junkie. I do my own bracketology so I remembered Syracuse numbers from last year. I had them out

 

 

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[yogisballin 2,321]

16 hours ago, TheWatShot said:

As we get ready to ride the roller coaster known as the Tom Crean Tower of Terror for the next six weeks, I thought it would be interesting to look at our current numbers vs. two years ago when we made the tournament as our lowest seed in program history. 

RPI and SOS and NCSOS are usually included when discussing a team's postseason chances. Here are our numbers (pre-PSU). I'll try to update when I can. 

RPI: 84

SOS: 64

NCSOS: 184

 

Here is what our respective numbers were in 2014-15, when we earned a 10 seed:

RPI: 61

SOS: 23

NCSOS: 97

As you can see, quite a way to go in all three categories, and not a favorable schedule for doing it. 

Some trivia:

1) Lowest RPI to earn an at-large bid: 72, by Syracuse last year. 

2) Most losses to get an at-large bid: 14, by Arizona in 2008. We had 13 losses two years ago. KenPom is projecting us to go 18-13 pre-BTT. We would tie this record if we got an at-large in this case. 

3) Fewest wins for an at-large: 17, by Alabama in 2006. Don't think this one will factor into anything, because if we have only 17 wins on Selection Sunday we're not anywhere near the discussion. 

So there you have it…9 years of Tom Crean and we're stuck comparing one crappy team to another. What fun! 

I honestly dont see us getting in guys, unless we finish very, VERY strong..minimum is 4-4 to get in imo. not 3-5, and lets say 3-5 does do it. what 3 games are we winning?? not really confident with any of those. maybe the @Iowa without Jok and @OSU games, but for me that's it!

 

[TheWatShot 13,906]

Lmao…our RPI went UP 3 spots after losing yesterday. #73 right now. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,274]

Jok is expected back this week I think.


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[Hoosier Guy 7,529]

Yeah IU is not gonna make the tournament. Maybe NIT but I'm not even sure about that. Not that I care about the NIT though

[TheWatShot 13,906]

RPI dropped 5 spots after last night's game, now 81. 

[bellj833 97]

These numbers are completely meaningless now...only way we're getting in is if we win 5 of our last 6 or win the B1G tournament....and we all know neither are going to happen. What a complete waste of talent and a season.

[Stuhoo 80,466]

These numbers are completely meaningless now...only way we're getting in is if we win 5 of our last 6 or win the B1G tournament....and we all know neither are going to happen. What a complete waste of talent and a season.

I firmly believe that with 19 wins we're in. That means we need 4 more. We have 6 conference games + the B1G tourney to get there.

[Uspshoosier 45,572]

These numbers are completely meaningless now...only way we're getting in is if we win 5 of our last 6 or win the B1G tournament....and we all know neither are going to happen. What a complete waste of talent and a season.

 

They could still win 4 out of 6 and still get in. All depends who they would beat. Big if but if they won @ Purdue (rpi 20), @ minny(23), Michigan(74), northwestern(42) they would make the tourney with room to spare. The bubble is historically bad this year. Just remember iu will not be the only bubble team losing. At the end of the day the committee has to pick 36 at large resumes. There is a reason why lunardi has a Clemson team that is 3-8 in the ACC still projected in the tourney. Looking at the numbers the bubble is going to be a mess.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/march-madness-ncaa-tournament-2017-bubble-teams-selection-sunday-syracuse-marquette-wake-forest-michigan-indiana/1f1r9aixt9e8xzk0zsmcts4jg

If iu only wins for more games they will be in consideration for a bid( lol at it even coming to this)

 

 

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[weaverswonders6 388]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

 if they won @ Purdue (rpi 20), @ minny(23), Michigan(74), northwestern(42) they would make the tourney with room to spare.

 

 

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I pissed down my leg, shat my pants, smacked my granny and snorted my La Croix after reading this it was so funny.  If we win those 4 games, I'll erect a statue of CTC and be his biggest supporter for the rest of my days.  That's how confident I am we don't.

[Uspshoosier 45,572]

2 hours ago, weaverswonders6 said:

I pissed down my leg, shat my pants, smacked my granny and snorted my La Croix after reading this it was so funny.  If we win those 4 games, I'll erect a statue of CTC and be his biggest supporter for the rest of my days.  That's how confident I am we don't.
 

Good to know. He said we had to win 5 to get in. I gave an example of winning 4 and getting in comfortably. Regardless if iu goes 9-9 in the B1G they will get in.


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