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IU Basketball: Who is leaving? Who is staying?


IndyHutch
  • It's clearly a question on the minds of most Indiana basketball fans now that the 2015-16 season has come to an end. Of the players with eligibility remaining, who will be in an Indiana uniform come the fall of 2016? Here is my take.

Let me begin by saying this is speculation. Educated speculation, but speculation nonetheless.

If there's one thing I've learned in my 18 years covering Indiana basketball it's that nothing is as simple as you would think it is. 

Players come and players go. Players that you think aren't transferring end up doing just that. Players that you're sure are definitely gone end up returning for another season.

And so until we have heard a final decision I won't go to the bank with any of this. But it's late March and once you're eliminated from the NCAA Tournament this is the kind of topic that begins weighing on the minds of Hoosier Nation.

Should I stay or should I go?

Let's throw out some names and get some opinions. Please feel free to weigh in on any of these guys. If you think I'm wrong, say so. If you think I'm right, you can agree, too. But I'm hoping we get some good discussion going on this one.

1. TROY WILLIAMS

Options: He could go to the NBA, go overseas, graduate from IU at the end of this semester and transfer to another school and play right away or return to Indiana for his final season of eligibility.

What I think he'll do: My guess is that Troy will be looking to collect a paycheck. Whether that's in the NBA or overseas, I'm not sure. But I'm guessing he's gone. I think the least possible option would be to transfer to another school. I think if he decides to play his final year of eligibility he would do so at Indiana. That's just my feeling. Is he ready for the NBA? I don't think so but no one is asking me either. Something just tells me though that if he hears any positive feedback at all from NBA folks that he'll probably make himself eligible for the NBA Draft. Again, it's just an opinion.

2. THOMAS BRYANT

Options: He go make himself eligible for the NBA Draft or he could return for his sophomore season at IU.

What I think he'll do: I think Bryant comes back. I think he likes school and he sees that he can improve if he sticks around and puts in the effort that he would need to put in. If he has a big year as a sophomore I think he's probably gone, just like Cody Zeller did. I know that Bryant has gotten some love from some of the draft boards but I just think if he had one more solid season that he could do a lot for his draft stock. Will he listen to what all of the NBA people have to say? Absolutely. But I think he's a pretty smart young man and he'll look at next year and realize how much of a dominant force he could be on that team.

3. JAMES BLACKMON JR.

Options: He could make himself eligible for the NBA Draft, transfer to another school and sit out a year, or return to Indiana.

What I think he'll do: I've heard the transfer rumors and they just don't make sense to me. I think Blackmon Jr. really has two options: He either goes to the NBA or he returns for one more season at Indiana. And again, I think the highest percentage here has him returning to IU. I can't imagine a lot of NBA people telling him that he should come out after what transpired from an injury standpoint this season. But the transfer rumors just make no sense to me at all. The only way he would transfer would be if he opted to go the Division II route but why would you do that? I can't imagine him transferring to a D1 school and sitting out another year. It just makes absolutely no sense to me. I think he's back in an IU uniform next season.

4. OG ANUNOBY

Options: Declare for the NBA Draft or return to IU for his sophomore season.

What I think he'll do: I know people cringe just seeing his name here but OG has been getting some love. I think he'll be at Indiana next season though. He may even be there a few more years. I think with a few more years of seasoning, OG could be a dynamic player both at this level and the next one. Again, I'm sure he'll listen to whatever people are saying but my guess is that he'll be back and will be part of the starting rotation.

5. TIM PRILLER

Options: Stay or go.

What I think he'll do: The only reason I put him on here is because I was on a radio show in Indy on Monday and was asked about him by Jake Query on 1260 WNDE. My answer there was depending on who is returning and what the scholarship numbers situation is, I guess he could be a casualty. But I really don't know. I think a lot will depend on what players leave and what players decide to stay. Unless you see him contributing at some point to this IU basketball team other than being the Victory Cigar, though, I just question how you can continue to allow him to occupy a roster spot.

So those are five players to think about. What do you think? 

Do you they stay or do they go?

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11 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

I think McSwain is Troy's replacement but no sign of a TB replacement yet. May be good news. TB was so up and down this year I think the right big grad transfer could be as productive as Bryant will be. What I dont want is to have to count on Davis as our low post presence. 

I remember thinking that about Vonleh too, and we all know how that turned out.  I got my hopes up that we really weren't recruiting any other bigs in the 2014 class, so that must have meant he was coming back.

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14 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

I remember thinking that about Vonleh too, and we all know how that turned out.  I got my hopes up that we really weren't recruiting any other bigs in the 2014 class, so that must have meant he was coming back.

That was a low point in recruiting for Crean. Ended up with Priller and April. Doubt we end up in that situation again or at least hope not.

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I remember thinking that about Vonleh too, and we all know how that turned out.  I got my hopes up that we really weren't recruiting any other bigs in the 2014 class, so that must have meant he was coming back.

If I had to guess the reason they didn't go after any big's in 2014 were because at the time Fischer was probably looked at as the plan if Noah left early. Turned out iu lost both. Once he left mid season now you are trying to play catchup in the late signing period against teams that have already been recruiting most of the kids. They did try and land some late guys but they chose to play elsewhere. Maten went to Georgia and Clark went to mich st. Now in full panic mode the staff had to reach with priller and April. Why priller might of not been the answer the kid is all Hoosier in the heart

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If I had to guess the reason they didn't go after any big's in 2014 were because at the time Fischer was probably looked at as the plan if Noah left early. Turned out iu lost both. Once he left mid season now you are trying to play catchup in the late signing period against teams that have already been recruiting most of the kids. They did try and land some late guys but they chose to play elsewhere. Maten went to Georgia and Clark went to mich st. Now in full panic mode the staff had to reach with priller and April. Why priller might of not been the answer the kid is all Hoosier in the heart

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What makes Priller all Hoosier? Is it his fandom? All Hoosier, to me, is the kid who works his tail off in practice to get better. Is that Priller? I don't have a clue other than to gauge it on his inability to get in games before walk ons.

I don't mind Priller but just don't how to feel on this one.

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This is my belief, as well. But, do not know who is advising, beyond Crean,and staff.

My belief too. What strikes me is that Thomas Bryant is very young. I think that his maturity might very well require another year in college. I think he would benefit with another year of growth at the college level.

His game would certainly benefit and I believe he would be able to answer some of the doubters in regard to his ability to defend the pick and roll and his lateral quickness. I have to imagine that he would creep into a top 14 pic, if he were to stay this year with the Hoosiers.

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What makes Priller all Hoosier? Is it his fandom? All Hoosier, to me, is the kid who works his tail off in practice to get better. Is that Priller? I don't have a clue other than to gauge it on his inability to get in games before walk ons.

I don't mind Priller but just don't how to feel on this one.

I would like to see McSwain and one other player to fill need depending on departures and whether we could land a slam dunk late signee. A true PG or big should TB hire an agent would really round out the roster nicely.

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I remember thinking that about Vonleh too, and we all know how that turned out.  I got my hopes up that we really weren't recruiting any other bigs in the 2014 class, so that must have meant he was coming back.

Vonleh was also projected higher. And serves as a good warning that the D-leagues are possible for undeveloped players even when they're higher picks.

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The fact that we havent seen any recent offers for a big tells me that TB is back. I've said all along I feel this kid will see another year of college ball will do him wonders. Plus, not hard to see he loves the college ranks with how ge carries himself on court.

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12 minutes ago, IUsince1980 said:

The fact that we havent seen any recent offers for a big tells me that TB is back. I've said all along I feel this kid will see another year of college ball will do him wonders. Plus, not hard to see he loves the college ranks with how ge carries himself on court.

I wouldn't read too much into the "no recent offers for a big" dynamic.

We have DeRon Davis, our young talented big, already signed and on the way. If we lose TB, it would be far more likely we'd be looking for a Max Bielfeldt type to fill the gap.

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Vonleh was also projected higher. And serves as a good warning that the D-leagues are possible for undeveloped players even when they're higher picks.

D-League is always a possibility. But Vonleh had spent a ton of time as a starter for a playoff team this year. Vonleh still went Top 10 as well. In the range he was expected to go.

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D-League is always a possibility. But Vonleh had spent a ton of time as a starter for a playoff team this year. Vonleh still went Top 10 as well. In the range he was expected to go.

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I thought the only reason he went to the D-League was to recover from an injury.

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D-League is always a possibility. But Vonleh had spent a ton of time as a starter for a playoff team this year. Vonleh still went Top 10 as well. In the range he was expected to go.

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Playing limited minutes for a very young team. Believe me, I'm a local, I am very familiar with Vonleh's current situation. I'm very happy it worked out, but it should not be the model for anyone. He had a lot of things happen at exactly the right time.

And yeah, he was expected to go top 10 and did. How does that change that TB is not expected to go top 10? If Vonleh took years to get into a favorable (but far from the best available) position as a top 10 pick, what does that tell us about a player projected 10 picks behind him?

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As long as OG and Juwan stay, we will have a solid core of players with or without Troy and Bryant. 

I was stunned to read Thon Maker is entering the draft, I was hoping if we lost Bryant we had a shot at him. 

But it doesn't matter, with Deron Davis, Hartman and OG we have a decent front line. Bryant staying makes it a great front line. McSwain and Morgan give us some more talented guys in that 6-6 to 6-8 range. Morgan has shown he can play guard as well, but with some time in the weight room, he could be a force on the front line. He positions well.

We have such a quantity of guards I have no worries there. RoJo, Blackmon and Newkirk are all experienced. Gelon can hopefully fit where NZ and Roth did -- as the guy who can come off the bench and hit a few 3's.

I think our main issue is keeping injury-prone guys healthy. If we can do that and Crean is able to bring this group along as he did in 2015-16, we'll be just fine.

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As long as OG and Juwan stay, we will have a solid core of players with or without Troy and Bryant. 

I was stunned to read Thon Maker is entering the draft, I was hoping if we lost Bryant we had a shot at him. 

But it doesn't matter, with Deron Davis, Hartman and OG we have a decent front line. Bryant staying makes it a great front line. McSwain and Morgan give us some more talented guys in that 6-6 to 6-8 range. Morgan has shown he can play guard as well, but with some time in the weight room, he could be a force on the front line. He positions well.

We have such a quantity of guards I have no worries there. RoJo, Blackmon and Newkirk are all experienced. Gelon can hopefully fit where NZ and Roth did -- as the guy who can come off the bench and hit a few 3's.

I think our main issue is keeping injury-prone guys healthy. If we can do that and Crean is able to bring this group along as he did in 2015-16, we'll be just fine.

Bryant makes us elite. Without Bryant, it will be a struggle.

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