Looking to next season

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

I think we will see a lot of three guard sets,like it or not.I'm not sold on RoJo in the lead role and really think Newkirk will see a ton of time there.Really think Morgan sees as much time as Hartman.

I'm not sold on the three guard lineup that much for several reasons
1) this is the deepest most versatile front court Crean has had at IU
2) we have three guards coming off injuries, two that cost them a season
3) the three guard lineup was horrendous to start last season

I'm good with running it for s few minutes here and there if we need to but I can't see us going long periods running three guards.

[BubbleKnuts 569]

Yeah, we have a more traditional team. 3 solid F/C sophomores who have big expectations. (Best class in Creans tenure?) I said it last year, but only next year will tell. Senior Collin and junior guards with some bench fire from Deron, Cujo and McSwain. 

1. Rojo/Newkirk

2. JBJ/Cujo

 Now we get a bit..hmm..

3.Collin/Juwan

4.OG/McSwain

 

And of course..

5. Thomas/Deron

 

Lotta promise. 

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

1 hour ago, BubbleKnuts said:

Yeah, we have a more traditional team. 3 solid F/C sophomores who have big expectations. (Best class in Creans tenure?) I said it last year, but only next year will tell. Senior Collin and junior guards with some bench fire from Deron, Cujo and McSwain. 

1. Rojo/Newkirk

2. JBJ/Cujo

 Now we get a bit..hmm..

3.Collin/Juwan

4.OG/McSwain

 

And of course..

5. Thomas/Deron

 

Lotta promise. 

It's nitpicking but I see JMo as more of a 4 than 3.  OG will probably get the nod to defend the 4 unless the opponents 3 is extremely quick and Hartman cannot stay with them.  I see JMo coming in and OG sliding down to the 3.  I have no idea where or what McSwain will be or do.  I believe DD has the ability to play a 4 against a bigger front if we decide to go that route.  I like the flexibility of our front court this season.  I would love to see Bryant and DD moving away from the lane against bigger teams like pu and Wiscy.  I really think we'll have the opportunity to beat some teams by inverting with bigger guards and "bigs" who can shoot from outside.

[GloryDays 6,208]

I'm not sold on the three guard lineup that much for several reasons
1) this is the deepest most versatile front court Crean has had at IU
2) we have three guards coming off injuries, two that cost them a season
3) the three guard lineup was horrendous to start last season

I'm good with running it for s few minutes here and there if we need to but I can't see us going long periods running three guard set
Totally agree with the disdain of the 3 guard set.RoJo and Blackman are probably going to start.I'm just not sold on either one running the point.Really think the 3 spot could see a lot of split time with Blackmen,Morgan and Hartman.Newkirk is likly going to play a lot.

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

Unfortunately, that's probably what will happen if everyone stays healthy. Part of the reason it was successful early last season is Yogi and JBJ weren't interested in playing defense. Another part was TB unable to defend at a high level early his freshman year.

If we have the bigger wings (Hartman, OG, JMor, McSwain, and DD) I'd like to see more of them and have RoJo, JBJ, JN, and CuJo split time at the guard spots. If Green and CuJo are all world frosh than I wouldn't mind seeing more of the three guard lineup. However, like you I'm sure we'll see a little bit of both whether we like it or not.

[GloryDays 6,208]

Sorry about the way that posted.Tried to reply and it just ran into your post.I cant figure this app out.

[GloryDays 6,208]

One thing for sure this is the deepest team Crean has ever had.Lets see what he can do with it.

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

40 minutes ago, Woodson1980 said:

One thing for sure this is the deepest team Crean has ever had.Lets see what he can do with it.

It is shaping up to be but that's something for later.  The 2012-2013 season was supposed to go at least 10 deep but with Patterson not making it to the fall semester, Hollowell, HMP, PJ not panning out, and Creek not coming back at full strength it never materialized. 

[BGleas 8,999]

46 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

It is shaping up to be but that's something for later.  The 2012-2013 season was supposed to go at least 10 deep but with Patterson not making it to the fall semester, Hollowell, HMP, PJ not panning out, and Creek not coming back at full strength it never materialized. 

Yeah, I remember people on the old scout board saying our 2nd five would finish 2nd in the Big Ten. We ended up being a 6-man team with almost no bench. You never know how it will play out. 

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

3 minutes ago, BGleas said:

Yeah, I remember people on the old scout board saying our 2nd five would finish 2nd in the Big Ten. We ended up being a 6-man team with almost no bench. You never know how it will play out. 

Cautiously optimistic is where I am.  There are still plenty of questions.  How does JBJ, and others to a lesser extent, return from their injuries?  How do the frosh perform and where do they fit in, ditto for McSwain and Newkirk?  I can see it going anywhere from 7-10, without losing much. 

[HoosierTrav 8,305]

I think a lot of people are underestimating De'Ron Davis' ability to start right away. I understand that it's hard for some to picture him starting over JM, but DD is REALLY good. We can absolutely dominate in the post with him and TB getting run together...... What a problem to have eh? Too many studs in the frontcourt.

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

I think a lot of people are underestimating De'Ron Davis' ability to start right away. I understand that it's hard for some to picture him starting over JM, but DD is REALLY good. We can absolutely dominate in the post with him and TB getting run together...... What a problem to have eh? Too many studs in the frontcourt.

I believe it was an interview after the Derby City all star game that DD said he was told to work on his corner and trail threes. At that time, I felt like we could see DD and TB on the court together. I don't discount DD's abilities but I'm just going the cautiously optimistic approach to frosh outside the top 20ish.

On a similar note, I've heard from several people that CuJo could be an absolute steal in this class and could be a lethal scorer off the bench.

If both those guys click with all returnees having great seasons we will go 9 deep. That's also not counting McSwain or Green but I'm expecting only solid mop up minutes from them.

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

This might have been posted. Apologies if someone has posted it in another thread.

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

On 8/17/2016 at 0:17 AM, HoosierAloha said:

 

I believe it was an interview after the Derby City all star game that DD said he was told to work on his corner and trail threes. At that time, I felt like we could see DD and TB on the court together. I don't discount DD's abilities but I'm just going the cautiously optimistic approach to frosh outside the top 20ish.

On a similar note, I've heard from several people that CuJo could be an absolute steal in this class and could be a lethal scorer off the bench.

If both those guys click with all returnees having great seasons we will go 9 deep. That's also not counting McSwain or Green but I'm expecting only solid mop up minutes from them.

This is the interview I was referencing. 

 

[hurryinghoosier5 96]

I think Colin Hartman is gonna have a great year. He has battled through injuries and doubt his entire time at IU. Gonna be a great leader for this team.


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[hurryinghoosier5 96]

*Collin


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[HoosierAloha 30,102]

I think Colin Hartman is gonna have a great year. He has battled through injuries and doubt his entire time at IU. Gonna be a great leader for this team.


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Agree, I'm thinking we see more free throw line turnarounds that he started shooting towards the end of last season. Also, hoping he can be a zone buster by getting in the middle and making plays or scoring.

[X-Hoosier 529]

I'm going to guess Collin is going to do what he has the last 2 seasons. Collin is solid but honestly isn't as talented as Morgan or DD. He just knows the ways now. He's going to average about 5 points a game and be our token white guy since Priller never actually plays.

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[Stuhoo 88,868]

18 minutes ago, X-Hoosier said:

I'm going to guess Collin is going to do what he has the last 2 seasons. Collin is solid but honestly isn't as talented as Morgan or DD. He just knows the ways now. He's going to average about 5 points a game and be our token white guy since Priller never actually plays.

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I'm pretty sure that the shade of Hartman's skin will not be relevant toward his role on the team.

In other words, I am NOT a fan of ^^that^^ post.

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

Eyeroll.