Adj D adj O

[Yogi'sBicep 1,048]

I heard something awhile back & have no factual evidence behind it, but; is it true that every Nat'l Champion has had a top 15 defense and offense? If so, what's it going to take realistically for us to climb in there? And do YOU honestly believe, based off of how we are playing THIS YEAR that it is possible to do?

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

I believe it's top 20 defense but most of the offenses have been great too. 

 

With our matador defense to begin the season it will be extremely difficult to get in the top 20 adjD.  I'm not saying it's impossible but improbable.  We're currently at #52 in adjD at 96.8 and #20 is around 93.9.  We just gave up 97.0 to a bad Illinois offense.  Again, it's possible but will be an uphill battle.

[Magnanimous 5,362]

The 2014 UConn team had the 39th AdjO, but their D was 10. UNC in 09 had a AdjD of 21, but their AdjO was 1st. In general though it is a very sound rule as every other NC team since 2002 has been in the top 20 for both categories. They fluctuate a bit though. Teams that are outside of the 20/20 range in early March may enter it with a strong conference tourney, so it's not worth getting all defeated if the team isn't there in mid-January.

 

Crean's teams are unsurprisingly AdjO-heavy. His 2002 Marquette team had an AdjD of 13, which is his best, but his FF team the next year had an AdjO of 2 and and AdjD of 119. Right now we're 20/52. We'll see how it plays out post-Blackmon, but I wouldn't write us past the first weekend if it's still hovering around the 40-50 range (at best) by BTT time.

[mdn82 26,344]

I would like to see what kind of draw we get before I guess where we will go. We have the team to make a run but will struggle against grinding teams. IMO

[Brass Cannon 25,448]

Don't forget beating 6 tourney teams helps boost a teams rankings. Be interesting to see where former champs were in Kenpom prior to the start of the tourney

[biteoftheapple 4,115]

I would like to see what kind of draw we get before I guess where we will go. We have the team to make a run but will struggle against grinding teams. IMO

Look it up if you want to see it. The data is readily available.

[biteoftheapple 4,115]

There are 3 teams, currently under 20 in both O and D. Nova, Okla and Iowa.

[Alford Bailey 13,228]

There are 3 teams, currently under 20 in both O and D. Nova, Okla and Iowa.

3 pretty solid teams. Number 1,4 and 9 in the top 25.

[mdn82 26,344]

Look it up if you want to see it. The data is readily available.

Our draw in the tournament? We don't have that kind of data.

[mdn82 26,344]

3 pretty solid teams. Number 1,4 and 9 in the top 25.

Oklahoma is the team that scares me of the 3. We don't have a Vic type defender that could shut down Hield

[biteoftheapple 4,115]

No in reference to Brass.

[mdn82 26,344]

No in reference to Brass.

Oh gotcha you replied to my quote. Threw me off.

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

We aren't going to crack the top-20 in defense this year without an epic meltdown above us. It's just statistically too late even if we held every team remaining on our schedule to .800 points per possession, there aren't enough games left to average out our previous defensive failures. That's why the ranking is informative but it matters more how your defense is playing relative to the other teams at the end of the year than how it averages out.

 

If we play defense like we have in Big Ten play and offense like we have at home in general (except against Wisco) then we can make a serious run. It's all up to the players and their willingness to keep pushing through and avoid hitting a wall.

[biteoftheapple 4,115]

My error.

[Brass Cannon 25,448]

Look it up if you want to see it. The data is readily available.

You can get Kenpom for a particular date? Do you have to be a member?

[biteoftheapple 4,115]

You can get Kenpom for a particular date? Do you have to be a member?

Unsure about particular date, but you can access end of season data.

[Brass Cannon 25,448]

Unsure about particular date, but you can access end of season data.

Yeah what I am saying if beating 6 tourney teams is gonna raise people's efficiency. I think a better measure would be to look at where past champs were placing before the dance.

[Magnanimous 5,362]

We aren't going to crack the top-20 in defense this year without an epic meltdown above us. It's just statistically too late even if we held every team remaining on our schedule to .800 points per possession, there aren't enough games left to average out our previous defensive failures. That's why the ranking is informative but it matters more how your defense is playing relative to the other teams at the end of the year than how it averages out.

 

If we play defense like we have in Big Ten play and offense like we have at home in general (except against Wisco) then we can make a serious run. It's all up to the players and their willingness to keep pushing through and avoid hitting a wall.

Which is why our ranking is potentially misleading considering our worst defender is no longer on the court. Would be interesting to see how we stack up post-Blackmon's injury.

[mdn82 26,344]

Which is why our ranking is potentially misleading considering our worst defender is no longer on the court. Would be interesting to see how we stack up post-Blackmon's injury.

Exactly. We have made a very healthy jump since the Wisconsin game. It's not easy to jump from 100+ to 50ish during conference. Your cupcakes typically inflate rankings and jumping 30 spots in 10 games isn't unheard of but still tough. We jumped 50+ spots in 5-7 against tougher competition than in pre conference.

[HoosierTrav 8,338]

I would like to see what kind of draw we get before I guess where we will go. We have the team to make a run but will struggle against grinding teams. IMO

I agree. In a year where 1-25 can truly win it all, we have to wait to see what the draw is. There will be teams in the tournament this year that in other years would be considered cupcakes. We end up with a favorable draw, we have the ability to do something special. I said it before but the stars have really aligned for Crean this season, to earn more time at Indiana. The schedule, the roster, the parity in cbb, and the timing of it all, really is a golden opportunity for him.