maxwell Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 Love OG. He has incredible size and athleticism. Also has a great touch from deep. I agree with everyone who sees something special in him. That challenged layup, where there was obvious body contact, really stood out to me. He exploded out of a power dribble in such short space, absorbed the contact, and his body kept rising upward. His athleticism is crazy for his size. Just wait until he figures out that no one can physically match him. I like how this lad moves with a low center of gravity on both ends of the floor considering his height. HoosierAloha and HoosierTrav 2 Quote
Alford Bailey Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 More OG and less Troy?? Hoosiers High Life and ALASKA HOOSIER 2 Quote
biteoftheapple Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 Personally, I just wish Troy spent less time handling the ball, his rebounding can be a difference, as well as his base lune cuts. OG's minutes should not be with expense of TW minutes. Hoosiers High Life, Crimson and Cream and IUsafety 3 Quote
Bowhunter Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 We need Troy at the 4 . More rebounding and put backs. The farther away from the goal the worse Troy gets. THE nice thing about OG is he can be a wing or a post player which gives him more playing time. HoosierAloha 1 Quote
Hoosiers High Life Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 Personally, I just wish Troy spent less time handling the ball, his rebounding can be a difference, as well as his base lune cuts. OG's minutes should not be with expense of TW minutes.Completely agree Troy Williams need to play like Rodman rebounds and dunks!!! OG should be on the court more!!! Quote
Old Friend Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 Here's the problem. Tom Crean doesn't coach in such a way that maximizes his rosters. He allows kids to showcase themselves, which is great for a player with aspirations of the NBA, but awful for a college basketball team. Cases in point : Yogi Ferrell has been allowed to take as many bad shots as he wants and turn the ball over as many times as he wants in order to put up whatever numbers he has. True, Yogi's got a ton of assists, too, but he will graduate from Indiana as the all time leader in turnovers. Many unforced, and many because he's being showy...with that stupid "freak move." Troy Williams has been allowed to turn the ball over while being a primary ball handler more than any "4" in the country. We don't really game plan to exploit weaknesses or accentuate positives. We just do what we do and hope we make enough shots to win. Doesn't matter how much SEAL training you do or how nice your sand pit is. You have to have plans against good teams, and they can't all be the same. You have to execute. Playing OG more minutes at Williams' expense is not how Crean does things. It might be helpful, and might lead to more wins, but it's never going to happen. Bielfelt needs more minutes, too. I'd play a lot more of he and Bryant together. I'd play Johnson at the 1 more often, and allow Yogi to play some 2, but also play Johnson, Blackmon, and Zeisloft with Bryant/Hartman and Bielfelt/OG. Taking two very selfish players off the floor. But that's not Crean. He wants to tell kids he sends players to the NBA, and it seems Crean won't sacrifice that statement for the sake of putting a smart team on the floor. We've never run shooters off screens because I don't think Crean recruits kids who are truly interested in screening or doing things to get team mates open. He has a roster full of kids who want their own numbers. Save Hartman, I don't even think we have kids willing to do "little things" that help teams win. The reasons Crean never wins big are in plain sight. Here's hoping Glass sees them, too. LIHoosier, bleedhoosier, HoosierAloha and 4 others 7 Quote
Oladipo Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 I agree. Has a high IQ for the game. Knows his spacing very well. Needs to get quicker and stronger, but under the right coach, he could have a bright future. I agree he definitely needs some quicker foot speed, very noticeable when he plays defense. However, not sure he needs to get stronger, he is by far the strongest freshman I have ever seen, probably the strongest guy on the team rightnow. Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 From Old Friends Post #27: We've never run shooters off screens because I don't think Crean recruits kids who are truly interested in screening or doing things to get team mates open. He has a roster full of kids who want their own numbers. Save Hartman, I don't even think we have kids willing to do "little things" that help teams win. I've spent hardly any time watching the likes of the basketball factory prep schools and just a little more than that watching the AAU circuit. My observation is that's how those types of teams are coached, i.e., all about building personal stats to impress the D-1 recruiter. Rarely are there more than 3 passes once the ball crosses mid-court and then it's a 1 on 1 move. Screens are non existent. If they're not playing good solid team ball at that level, you'll never get it from them in college. HoosierCoop, Alford Bailey and Old Friend 3 Quote
HoosierCoop Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 From Old Friends Post #27: We've never run shooters off screens because I don't think Crean recruits kids who are truly interested in screening or doing things to get team mates open. He has a roster full of kids who want their own numbers. Save Hartman, I don't even think we have kids willing to do "little things" that help teams win. I've spent hardly any time watching the likes of the basketball factory prep schools and just a little more than that watching the AAU circuit. My observation is that's how those types of teams are coached, i.e., all about building personal stats to impress the D-1 recruiter. Rarely are there more than 3 passes once the ball crosses mid-court and then it's a 1 on 1 move. Screens are non existent. If they're not playing good solid team ball at that level, you'll never get it from them in college. It has always been my opinion that AAU is the downfall of College ball. College ball is nothing but a short stop to the pros in their eyes. Give me a good hard-nosed high school game anytime with kids that actually play for their school. that's Indiana basketball. LIHoosier, Class of '66 Old Fart, ALASKA HOOSIER and 1 other 4 Quote
Alford Bailey Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 It has always been my opinion that AAU is the downfall of College ball. College ball is nothing but a short stop to the pros in their eyes. Give me a good hard-nosed high school game anytime with kids that actually play for their school. that's Indiana basketball. Exactly. And, every kid playing AAU thinks they are a pro prospect. Did the AAU circuit with my kid for a couple years. Its a joke. Class of '66 Old Fart, HoosierCoop and Hoosier Roots 3 Quote
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