Jaquan Lyle Confirms Escort Allegations

[HoosierRob 1,042]

I've been blocked by dakich for months lol

[HoosierAlex 152]

http://www.courierpress.com/sports/Bosse-coach-Dan-Dakich-battle-on-Twitter-over-JaQuan-Lyle-331306702.html?d=mobile

[Jketch 385]

I actually like Pitino and would hate to see him go. I think it's funny that people think UofL is the only school that does things like this. I'm not sticking up for him but he may just be one of the unlucky coaches that gets caught being slightly involved. Why do you think schools like UK are so much more appealing to recruits than others..? I don't have answers but they could very well be doing something against the rules.

[Kepner 1,261]

I actually like Pitino and would hate to see him go. I think it's funny that people think UofL is the only school that does things like this. I'm not sticking up for him but he may just be one of the unlucky coaches that gets caught being slightly involved. Why do you think schools like UK are so much more appealing to recruits than others..? I don't have answers but they could very well be doing something against the rules.

Of course everyone cheats, but there are definitely degrees of cheating. Staff paying hookers and strippers for recruits is not common or normal. I honestly don't think Pitino knew about what happened, but its still his program so he is still guilty by association in this case.

[Stuhoo 79,925]

Of course everyone cheats, but there are definitely degrees of cheating. Staff paying hookers and strippers for recruits is not common or normal. I honestly don't think Pitino knew about what happened, but its still his program so he is still guilty by association in this case.

 

Pitino is not merely guilty by association.

 

He is the head of a major operation and it is his job to enact and supervise groundrules for his direct reports, one of who was Andre McGee, the Director of Basketball Operations that set the whole thing up.

[Jketch 385]

Of course everyone cheats, but there are definitely degrees of cheating. Staff paying hookers and strippers for recruits is not common or normal. I honestly don't think Pitino knew about what happened, but its still his program so he is still guilty by association in this case.

Yeah I'm not sure if Pitino was involved either and I want to agree that it is not normal but how can we be so sure.

[Kepner 1,261]

Yeah I'm not sure if Pitino was involved either and I want to agree that it is not normal but how can we be so sure.

In today's day and age, its very hard for this stuff to stay underwraps. Im sure there are girls that show up when recruits show up, but there are just girls who go after the athletes and maybe there are girls getting tickets, etc for showing the recruits/athletes a good time. But paying prostitutes and strippers is a whole other ball game. Of course we will never know but year after year stuff comes out so its harder for schools to keep this stuff hidden.

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

Yeah I'm not sure if Pitino was involved either and I want to agree that it is not normal but how can we be so sure.

Isn't that just life? How can we be so sure the government didn't orchestrate the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand?

 

We examine things as incidents until patterns emerge.

[Jketch 385]

Isn't that just life? How can we be so sure the government didn't orchestrate the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand?

We examine things as incidents until patterns emerge.

I get what you're saying, I simply brought up the point because Pitino is a legendary coach and I hate all the talk about him needing to be kicked out of the program.

[Kepner 1,261]

How can we be so sure the government didn't orchestrate the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand?

 

We examine things as incidents until patterns emerge.

Wouldn't be too far fetched. The government has an all too common history of doing things like this throughout the years. But thats a topic for a whole other discussion haha

[MikeRoberts 6,945]

Of course everyone cheats, but there are definitely degrees of cheating. Staff paying hookers and strippers for recruits is not common or normal. I honestly don't think Pitino knew about what happened, but its still his program so he is still guilty by association in this case.

Pitino absolutely knew explicitly or told his staff he didn't want to know about things like that which is his consent to do it. No assistant coach is going to go rogue and make major violations like this and involve so many people without the head coaches consent. There is zero chance he didn't know or consent to 20+ times over a 4 year period.

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

Wouldn't be too far fetched. The government has an all too common history of doing things like this throughout the years. But thats a topic for a whole other discussion haha

That's why I didn't pick a contemporary example. 

[HoosierTrav 7,764]

Of course everyone cheats, but there are definitely degrees of cheating. Staff paying hookers and strippers for recruits is not common or normal. I honestly don't think Pitino knew about what happened, but its still his program so he is still guilty by association in this case.

I dont believe for a second that this went on without Pitino knowing. I dont buy that at all.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,218]

Plausible deniability.  Great line from the movie Independence Day when the President wants to know why he was never told there was an alien in captivity.  Jim Boeheim, Roy Williams, Larry Brown and now Rick Pitino.  Of course they didn't really know what was going on because everyone around them was shielding them from the full truth so they could plead "I didn't know".  Well Boeheim has already learned that plausible deniability didn't cut it with the NCAA; Larry Brown will shortly and we hope Roy Williams does as well at some point.  As for Pitino, it is early in this whole mess and no one knows the full story just yet.  But if the book and its allegations are remotely accurate, U of L is in a heap of trouble and I don't think the usually docile NCAA will turn a blind eye to promoting underage drinking, soliciting prostitutes, etc., as a recruiting tool.  Pitino's future at U of L is anybody's guess at this point in time.

[HoosierAloha 30,044]

Pitino was quick to point out the DBO had no pressure to recruit...

[swatford 1,235]

HOW IS EVERYONE MISSING THE BEST PART OF THIS ARTICLE:

 

"In it, Katina Powell, a self-described madam, writes that she took four escorts, at the request of former Louisville staff member Andre McGee, to do a "show" for a "new recruit named JaQuan Lyle."

 

"I took Rod-Ni, TooTall, Jazmine and Shay, who calls herself Sammi," Powell wrote in a journal entry. "TooTall made $100, Shay made $100, and Jazzy made nothing because she did absolutely nothing."

 

Louisville had Rod-No and TooTall, IU had no chance to compete with them on the recruiting front the past few years.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,092]

anybody think Kenny knew anything about this?

of course he did. But he was getting his $ so he didn't care.

[Happydaze 232]

I actually like Pitino and would hate to see him go. I think it's funny that people think UofL is the only school that does things like this. I'm not sticking up for him but he may just be one of the unlucky coaches that gets caught being slightly involved. Why do you think schools like UK are so much more appealing to recruits than others..? I don't have answers but they could very well be doing something against the rules.

Other schools do it, they just usually say they don't know anything about it when they get caught. Remember the Ed Martin case at Michigan?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Michigan_basketball_scandal

 

In the early morning of February 17, 1996, a Ford Explorer driven by either Taylor or Traylor, depending on the source,^[1][2][3] went out of control while returning along M-14 from a party in Detroit, 40 miles (64 km) east of Michigan's campus in Ann Arbor.^[1] Among the passengers was high school star Mateen Cleaves, who was on his official recruiting visit. When an investigation revealed that the trip included a visit to Ed Martin's home, the University investigated his relationship with the basketball program.^[2] Martin was reportedly returning to Ann Arbor from Detroit with Traylor, Taylor, Cleaves, Willie Mitchell, Bullock, and Ron Oliver after a party that included drugs, strippers and alcohol.^[1][3] Accounts of the party vary.^[1] By some accounts the party was hosted by Martin,^[3][4] but by other accounts Martin's house was a stop on the way to a party at Detroit's Westin Hotel.^[1] Martin, a retired Ford Motor Company electrician,^[5] provided all the players with money.^[1] During the rollover accident, Traylor broke his arm and was lost for the season.^[1]Mitchell transferred from Michigan to the University of Alabama-Birmingham after his junior season (1995–1996).^[6] Bullock, Cleaves (who eventually signed with rival Michigan State), Taylor, and Traylor all went on to be drafted by National Basketball Association(NBA) teams. Bullock played in various foreign leagues but never in the NBA.

The NCAA uses a statute of limitations of four years. Thus, at any time the NCAA can open or re-open an investigation for an infraction occurring within the last four years.^[7] However, NCAA convention is to date violations based on when they learned about the infraction.^[3] Thus, events that had occurred far more than four years prior to the investigation came under its purview. The initial accident reports revealed several inconsistencies and violations that induced expanded investigation.^[1]

Michigan admitted to the secondary NCAA violation of transporting a recruit more than 30 miles (48 km) from campus.^[1] Questions were immediately raised about whether Taylor actually owned the sport utility vehicle. The NCAA asked for leasing documentation of Taylor's vehicle and Michigan investigated the registrations of its players' vehicles.^[1] The University soon required that all the vehicles driven by its players be part of a special vehicle registration program.

[ElectricBoogaloo 4,307]

anybody think Kenny knew anything about this?

 

How do you think they recruited Kenny?

 

:biggrin:

[mdn82 25,510]

LOL I think they recruited Kenny with a checkbook.

I don't know. When I saw that moving truck there weren't many strong men. Just a bunch of scantily dressed females bending over.