Thomas Bryant and Emmitt Holt cited for illegal alcohol posession

[chicagoHOOSIER 1,051]

Law students can't practice law. Those motions wouldn't be worth the paper they're printed on. A good lawyer (an IU grad) once told me the majority of his clients are guilty of something, it's up to him to figure out what it is and use the knowledge to his client's advantage.

 

Law students can't practice law, but law students can write motions, and Thomas Bryant and Emmitt Holt can file those motions on their own behalf as if they wrote them themselves.  A law degree is not reqired to file a motion on your own behalf.

 

And the law school itself has many clinics in the law building that solicit the public for cases to allow law students to practice writing motions, investigating cases, etc. as if they were fully blessed by the bar.

 

Also, while I enjoy the humorous legal aphorisms, those are just humorous statements, and they are not the law.

 

The law library at IU is one of the best law libraries in the world.  Emmitt and Thomas have access to books that will lay out step by step how to defend themselves against this charge. 

[chicagoHOOSIER 1,051]

I'll never understand why people want to blame the police when someone gets in trouble for doing things that are against the law.

 

Because often the police violate constitutional rights ordained by our nation's forefathers in the process of doing their jobs, and the ones who do that often violate those rights on a daily basis.  Those constitutional rights are usually much more important to defend than a statute that says a kid cannot sit within so-and-so many feet of an unopened bottle of alcohol without being taken to jail and then publicly humiliated in his new home town during Welcome Week, when he should be celebrating the beginning of  the best years of his life.

 

One crime is worse than the other.

 

Can you tell me which crime you believe is the greater offense?

[HoosierAloha 30,077]

I'll never understand why people want to blame the police when someone gets in trouble for doing things that are against the law.

This. I once got busted or underage consumption. The first thing my lawyer asked was to explain what happened when the police showed up. After explaining, the lawyer asked me if I wanted to get out of it 100% and get the cops in trouble. I was in the wrong but the cops were going to get in trouble? That didn't make sense to me. I took the slap on the wrist and the punishment of my supervisors and peers. It sucked but I learned my lesson.

[Dalton26 16,892]

Because often the police violate constitutional rights ordained by our nation's forefathers in the process of doing their jobs, and the ones who do that often violate those rights on a daily basis. Those constitutional rights are usually much more important to defend than a statute that says a kid cannot sit within so-and-so many feet of an unopened bottle of alcohol without being taken to jail and then publically humiliated in his new home town during Welcome Week, when he should be celebrating the best years of his life.

Or because often the police are doing their jobs and people don't want to take responsibility for their actions.

[OliviaPope40 6,658]

I keep hearing the NWA song go off in my head.

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

Law students can't practice law. Those motions wouldn't be worth the paper they're printed on. A good lawyer (an IU grad) once told me the majority of his clients are guilty of something, it's up to him to figure out what it is and use the knowledge to his client's advantage.

Technically, the law students could write the motions for them. But, they'd have to file them pro bono. Just like you could write the motion for them but not file it for them.

 

Why wouldn't his clients tell him what they were guilty of? I mean, he is their lawyer, who else are they going to tell? I don't think he was a very good lawyer.

[Stuhoo 82,123]

Or because often the police are doing their jobs and people don't want to take responsibility for their actions.

 

THIS!

 

The police do not "often violate constitutional rights".

 

They infrequently do, and when that happens, that case should be dismissed, and if statutorily appropriate and viable, that officer should be prosecuted to the full extent possible.

[Hoosierfan2017 22,116]

Law students can't practice law, but law students can write motions, and Thomas Bryant and Emmitt Smith can file those motions on their own behalf as if they wrote them themselves.  A law degree is not reqired to file a motion on your own behalf.
 
And the law school itself has many clinics in the law building that solicit the public for cases to allow law students to practice writing motions, investigating cases, etc. as if they were fully blessed by the bar.
 
Also, while I enjoy the humorous legal aphorisms, those are just humorous statements, and they are not the law.
 
The law library at IU is one of the best law libraries in the world.  Emmitt and Thomas have access to books that will lay out step by step how to defend themselves against this charge.

So they're going to represent themselves in court? That'll go over well. I witnessed people try it in the court I worked in this summer. Trust me when I say it's the last thing they should do. They're not on trial for murder, man. They got an alcohol possession ticket. It's honestly not worth their time to fight it because their punishment from the law will be next to nothing. If they want to lawyer up then whatever, go get em. But they probably know they screwed up and just want to put the whole thing behind them.

[Kepner 1,261]

Its common sense that for the first few weekends of school they have a massive amount of police officers and excise cops out look specifically for kids drinking underage (because it is against the LAW), so if someone is out in public with alcohol and underage, they are not too smart. No reason to start blaming this on the cops if there was alcohol in the vehicle, everyone was going to get in trouble for it. These kids were the ones who made the dumb mistake and broke the law, no one else is at fault for their actions

[Stuhoo 82,123]

Law students can't practice law, but law students can write motions, and Thomas Bryant and Emmitt Smith can file those motions on their own behalf as if they wrote them themselves.  

 

If they could get all-time NFL rushing leader Emmitt Smith to file a legal motion on their behalf they might just have a fighting chance here!

 

(lol/tic)

[JaybobHoosier 11,952]

Or because often the police are doing their jobs and people don't want to take responsibility for their actions.

Completely agree 1 million bajillion percent.

However, let's not turn this into a political/social issue! Go IU...... right? Lol

[chicagoHOOSIER 1,051]

Or because often the police are doing their jobs and people don't want to take responsibility for their actions.

 

 

But we don't have enough information now to know what happened.  And there is only one way to know more about what happened, and that is to investigate.

 

I think your suggestion is that no questions should be asked, even though two young men got trotted down to jail during Welcome Week when they should have been out celebrating with the best friends they will ever have in their lives.

 

There is always more to the story than the official cop statement.  Always.

[Stuhoo 82,123]

There is always more to the story than the official cop statement.  Always.

 

Always?

 

Always!?!

 

ALWAYS???!!!???

 

Good grief.

[NRT137 316]

Emmitt should be dismissed. Only an idiot gets caught with alcohol twice. Does an idiot help iubb? No

[Hoosierfan2017 22,116]

Technically, the law students could write the motions for them. But, they'd have to file them pro bono. Just like you could write the motion for them but not file it for them.
 
Why wouldn't his clients tell him what they were guilty of? I mean, he is their lawyer, who else are they going to tell? I don't think he was a very good lawyer.

Beats me. Go up to a random guy in prison and there's probably a good chance he says something along the lines of "man I swear I'm innocent, they set me up on this." I'm sure a lot of his clients are honest with him about what they did, but the area he practices in has a lot of meth head types who aren't the most reliable of clients. If I was ever in trouble I'd want my case in his hands, but I've gone on long enough. Sorry, I know this has nothing to do with the topic.

[Iufan2324 158]

Okay so question.. If me and my parents are in a car they buy alcohol and sit it in the back seat with me we get pulled over and I get charged is that how it works? Something is going on and really makes no since. If the other 3 were 21 they could have said it was theirs. Now the cop could have breathalyzed them and they had drank so he gave them something like a small minor. I'm just confused as to the whole story and now I am even more confused from the PM I received. IU basketball at its finest

[Hovadipo 57,080]

Okay so question.. If me and my parents are in a car they buy alcohol and sit it in the back seat with me we get pulled over and I get charged is that how it works? Something is going on and really makes no since. If the other 3 were 21 they could have said it was theirs. Now the cop could have breathalyzed them and they had drank so he gave them something like a small minor. I'm just confused as to the whole story and now I am even more confused from the PM I received. IU basketball at its finest

Pretty sure the 21 year old in the car has to be a parent/guardian if you're underage.

[chicagoHOOSIER 1,051]

If they could get all-time NFL rushing leader Emmitt Smith to file a legal motion on their behalf they might just have a fighting chance here!

 

(lol/tic)

 

OK you know your argument is thin when you lunge for the typo!

 

Always?

 

Always!?!

 

ALWAYS???!!!???

 

Good grief.

 

Yes.  The official police account is never the whole story.  I wonder how you could not agree with that statement.  

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

Always?

 

Always!?!

 

ALWAYS???!!!???

 

Good grief.

Isn't there always more to every story?

 

I mean, when I tell my wife about my day, I don't always mention each time I notice the Fabreeze switch to the other scent.

[Iufan2324 158]

Pretty sure the 21 year old in the car has to be a parent/guardian if you're underage.

But they are technically adults. There's gotta be more to the story. Time will tell I guess.